Errr, ok i'm confused. Correct me if i'm mistaken but isn't the constellation allready in game in the form of a skin for the Heavy Cruiser et al?
That was a bug they corrected, though it does mean we know the model is already patched into the game, so it is just a matter of time until we get the ship.
Oh yea, thats a dead giveaway... Thats the Constellation class for sure... For free... Without a grind... in fact they will pay us to take it... 20K Zen
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
It was accidentally included with... 8.5 if I'm not mistaken. It was removed the following week, but they allowed anyone that customized their Heavy Cruiser to include the saucer to keep it.
The Constellation hasn't been officially released yet.
I took a break between S7 and S9 releases so i wasn't around for that but i was under the impression it was in since i started playing back in mid S5. I'd have to actually go buy a Heavy Cruiser to check mind you but eh.
I took a break between S7 and S9 releases so i wasn't around for that but i was under the impression it was in since i started playing back in mid S5. I'd have to actually go buy a Heavy Cruiser to check mind you but eh.
OR... You could believe the correct statement you quoted?
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
my bet is, even if given away, gonna be a hot flaming mess. Don't get the whole constellation buzz. Ugly kitbash ship.
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my bet is, even if given away, gonna be a hot flaming mess. Don't get the whole constellation buzz. Ugly kitbash ship.
It's a canon ship, so it always has that going for it. It also doesn't look like a lot of the awful, madeup designs in STO. It certainly isn't in the shape of a flying TRIBBLE that Cryptic has been really into since the LOR update.
my bet is, even if given away, gonna be a hot flaming mess. Don't get the whole constellation buzz. Ugly kitbash ship.
I love the constellation. I think it's one of the better executed kitbashes, and I really hope it makes it into the game (preferably with a hanger slot and a fleet variant)
Also....isn't your avatar an Akula class? That's also a kitbash.
This...if we're going to get it this week it probably wouldn't be around till Thursday.
But do Feds need another cruiser right now? I mean there are other factions in need of some...
Depends what you mean by 'need'. For some of us all that matters is getting our dream ship (whatever that might be); if it's already there then no we don't need more, and if it isn't then we do. Sheer numbers only matter from a certain point of view.
So who here is crossing their fingers for the Constellation Class to be released tomorrow Monday the 16th for Captain Picard Day? I for one have zen saved up for it!^_^
How'd Captain Picard Day go for ya? Spend that Zen on a new Constellation?
The assumption that the Constellation was gonna be released yesterday was completely justified. Not that I can speak for anyone who thought they knew that it would be, mind you, but all of the related events certainly led up to it.
Though it isn't the first time the devs missed out on something that made so much sense.
Two very incomparable situations. The Constitution is in the game, and CBS simply isn't allowing Cryptic to make a tier 5. Until that situation change, that's how it is.
The Constellation however has no rules about that. On top of that, it is confirmed to exist in-game. On top of that, the STO team expressed the desire to get every canon ship into the game. Plus the Heavy Cruiser is missing a tier3.5 "refit", and the Constellation fits the bill for it perfectly. The Constellation happening is far, far more likely than a tier5 Connie.
You could at least provide a proper retort and give reasons why my statement might be wrong instead of post unnecessary sarcasm. That gets us nowhere in a discussion.
You could at least provide a proper retort and give reasons why my statement might be wrong instead of post unnecessary sarcasm. That gets us nowhere in a discussion.
Never seen much sense belaboring the astoundingly obvious myself, but okay- outside of fan fever and "It's in the game, so they must be gonna give it to us" assumptions, I saw nothing in the leadup to yesterday to even suggest the assumption it was going to be released was anything more than fan-fueled hope. Not one hint of an "upcoming ship" Dev Blog, barely even a mention at all.
I maintain the assumption that it would be released yesterday was naught but one more reason why they say what they do about "when you assume." Fans went "could it happen," nobody gave a 100% clear denial, and the next step many seem to see as logical was "they're gonna release it!"
You could at least provide a proper retort and give reasons why my statement might be wrong instead of post unnecessary sarcasm. That gets us nowhere in a discussion.
How can the assumption be justified when, within this very thread was linked the Dev post from nearly 3 weeks ago stating there will be no new ship for Captain Picard Day?
There were no hints. It was a definite no.
Assuming there would be a ship on that day is nothing but pure day dream fancy at that point. It is like your boss telling you his office will be closed on Friday but you show up anyway because you assume it will be open.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Never seen much sense belaboring the astoundingly obvious myself, but okay-
What is obvious to you may not be so for another. It is more reasonable to give the benefit of the doubt, especially to one who is seeking honest facts rather than having an agenda. I can't say I'm perfectly honest, but I try to be as honest and as factual as I can, and if I have an irrational belief, I would like to understand why it's irrational so I can stop accepting it.
outside of fan fever and "It's in the game, so they must be gonna give it to us" assumptions, I saw nothing in the leadup to yesterday to even suggest the assumption it was going to be released was anything more than fan-fueled hope. Not one hint of an "upcoming ship" Dev Blog, barely even a mention at all.
I maintain the assumption that it would be released yesterday was naught but one more reason why they say what they do about "when you assume." Fans went "could it happen," nobody gave a 100% clear denial, and the next step many seem to see as logical was "they're gonna release it!"
Well considering that I'm not a fan, nor have any desire to fly a Constellation(it's not even my favorite Heavy Cruiser skin anyway), your implication that only within "fan fever" is it reasonable to assume that the Constellation would be released on Captain Picard day is patently false.
Let's look at the facts. Since the accidental reveal that the Constellation-class ship is in the game, at the very least being worked on, we've known about that. We also are aware of the desire for Cryptic wanting all canon ships eventually to be featured in-game.
The thing is, within the lore, the Constellation-class is mainly famous to fans from Captain Jean-Luc Picard's U.S.S. Stargazer, his first ship command. And Captain Picard Day is an actual thing in-continuity. Add to that, Cryptic has been known to use themes from canon in their events, such as First Contact Day. It was reasonable to assume that of any day of the year, releasing the Constellation-class skin makes the most sense on the 12th of June, Captain Picard Day.
I can accept that there was no announcement. I can also grant you that it was an assumption. But it was indeed a justified one, given the information we already had. And it still is justified. There is a Captain Picard Day coming up next year as well, and it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that it will be released then.
Yes, it might not be. It might be released any day in between now and then. Hell, it may never even be released, despite the STO team's apparent desire to. But it's still reasonable to assume that the Constellation will somehow be tied to Captain Picard Day.
How can the assumption be justified when, within this very thread was linked the Dev post from nearly 3 weeks ago stating there will be no new ship for Captain Picard Day?
There was no statement that there was not gonna be a ship released on Captain Picard Day. The exact quote was "No free ships or bundles will be given out". That does not discount the possibility of a non-free, non-bundled zen store Constellation being released.
Assuming there would be a ship on that day is nothing but pure day dream fancy at that point. It is like your boss telling you his office will be closed on Friday but you show up anyway because you assume it will be open.
No, it was not a "definite no". See the reasoning I pointed out above.
There was no statement that there was not gonna be a ship released on Captain Picard Day. The exact quote was "No free ships or bundles will be given out". That does not discount the possibility of a non-free, non-bundled zen store Constellation being released.
No, it was not a "definite no". See the reasoning I pointed out above.
Except that you are skipping the part where they stated they will just try to do something fun for the Day.
There was no hint of any kind ever given by any Dev that the ship was going to be released on that Day. Assuming such a thing was going to happen was all on you, as no Dev said or hinted about it.
You let your imagination get away from you. That is your fault, not theirs.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Except that you are skipping the part where they stated they will just try to do something fun for the Day.
There was no hint of any kind ever given by any Dev that the ship was going to be released on that Day. Assuming such a thing was going to happen was all on you, as no Dev ever hinted that it would happen.
You let your imagination get away from you. That is your fault, not theirs.
After flatly being told NO FREE ship, and people thought they'd get one, the crying I see here is quite hilarious(not you, the people you were replying to).
Seriously being told NO FREE ship, then whining one wasn't given, is beyond lunacy.
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How can the assumption be justified when, within this very thread was linked the Dev post from nearly 3 weeks ago stating there will be no new ship for Captain Picard Day?
There were no hints. It was a definite no.
Assuming there would be a ship on that day is nothing but pure day dream fancy at that point. It is like your boss telling you his office will be closed on Friday but you show up anyway because you assume it will be open.
I know, right? Amazing how a blatant "no" translates into "hints of yes" if one is devoted enough, I suppose.
In the face of pure fantasy being defended as fact, it's not particularly out of place to...well...anyone who can see that the fantasy is actually fantasy.
There was no statement that there was not gonna be a ship released on Captain Picard Day. The exact quote was "No free ships or bundles will be given out". That does not discount the possibility of a non-free, non-bundled zen store Constellation being released.
And the last time a C-store ship was added out of the blue, with not Dev blog one to build hype was when? :rolleyes:
(No, that wasn't "necessary" either, but refer back to "pure fantasy being defended as fact".)
So who here is crossing their fingers for the Constellation Class to be released tomorrow Monday the 16th for Captain Picard Day? I for one have zen saved up for it!^_^
After flatly being told NO FREE ship, and people thought they'd get one, the crying I see here is quite hilarious(not you, the people you were replying to).
Seriously being told NO FREE ship, then whining one wasn't given, is beyond lunacy.
Therefore, I standby my "You lied" against the OP.
Somebody get a flamethrower, I think I saw the horse twitch.
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Somebody get a flamethrower, I think I saw the horse twitch.
So many dead horses ... I am going to have to call PETA. But seriously, as a big fan of Constellation and all canon ships, I was hoping that something would be announced soon-ish. However, I didn't realistically expect yesterday for a few reason:
1. No pre-release blog - hyping or teasing fans
2. No direct confirmation or denial ... usually them ignoring threads is a bad sign
3. Risa even running which probably rules out a 2nd event. Haven't see that ever in STO ... 2 events running in parallel
4. They just released the Patrol Refit
I also don't see them releasing it anytime soon either. Season 9 is going to be focused on Delta Quadrant and they have hinted that Voyager will be a part of that. So I would expect an Intrepid revamp before Constellation release.
Still us fans can wish for it!
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You let your imagination get away from you. That is your fault, not theirs.
It's no one's "fault". And it wasn't my imagination, it was a reasonable deduction of what the evidence suggested. I tried using inductive reasoning the best I could.
Can you please explain the flaw in my method rather than insult me?
After flatly being told NO FREE ship, and people thought they'd get one, the crying I see here is quite hilarious(not you, the people you were replying to).
Do you see any tears? No one's crying here. I would appreciate it if you would keep the childish remarks to yourself.
In the face of pure fantasy being defended as fact, it's not particularly out of place to...well...anyone who can see that the fantasy is actually fantasy.
And the last time a C-store ship was added out of the blue, with not Dev blog one to build hype was when? :rolleyes:
(No, that wasn't "necessary" either, but refer back to "pure fantasy being defended as fact".)
Demonstrate the claim that the methods I used had led me to "pure fantasy".
Look, I know you guys are used to personally attacking everyone without second thought, but there's no need for this hostility. If you believe that I am following false information, please explain it to me rather than resorting to this. If I'm believing something that is unjustified, I want to know about it and why. I'm not your enemy here.
It's no one's "fault". And it wasn't my imagination, it was a reasonable deduction of what the evidence suggested. I tried using inductive reasoning the best I could.
Can you please explain the flaw in my method rather than insult me?
Other than misapplication of the adage "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"? I dunno, you tell me.
Cryptic tends to advertise these things at least a week out to build hype and increase sales. No advertisement means no release.
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That was a bug they corrected, though it does mean we know the model is already patched into the game, so it is just a matter of time until we get the ship.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1130331&page=2
Interpret that as you will...
Oh yea, thats a dead giveaway... Thats the Constellation class for sure... For free... Without a grind... in fact they will pay us to take it... 20K Zen
This...if we're going to get it this week it probably wouldn't be around till Thursday.
But do Feds need another cruiser right now? I mean there are other factions in need of some...
With Joy, as he could get his old ship back.
I took a break between S7 and S9 releases so i wasn't around for that but i was under the impression it was in since i started playing back in mid S5. I'd have to actually go buy a Heavy Cruiser to check mind you but eh.
OR... You could believe the correct statement you quoted?
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http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
It's a canon ship, so it always has that going for it. It also doesn't look like a lot of the awful, madeup designs in STO. It certainly isn't in the shape of a flying TRIBBLE that Cryptic has been really into since the LOR update.
Also....isn't your avatar an Akula class? That's also a kitbash.
I interpret that as the devs having fun laughing at the forums
Depends what you mean by 'need'. For some of us all that matters is getting our dream ship (whatever that might be); if it's already there then no we don't need more, and if it isn't then we do. Sheer numbers only matter from a certain point of view.
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How'd Captain Picard Day go for ya? Spend that Zen on a new Constellation?
"Constellation is the new Constitution?"
Though it isn't the first time the devs missed out on something that made so much sense.
No he did not.
Two very incomparable situations. The Constitution is in the game, and CBS simply isn't allowing Cryptic to make a tier 5. Until that situation change, that's how it is.
The Constellation however has no rules about that. On top of that, it is confirmed to exist in-game. On top of that, the STO team expressed the desire to get every canon ship into the game. Plus the Heavy Cruiser is missing a tier3.5 "refit", and the Constellation fits the bill for it perfectly. The Constellation happening is far, far more likely than a tier5 Connie.
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Of course it was.
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Never seen much sense belaboring the astoundingly obvious myself, but okay- outside of fan fever and "It's in the game, so they must be gonna give it to us" assumptions, I saw nothing in the leadup to yesterday to even suggest the assumption it was going to be released was anything more than fan-fueled hope. Not one hint of an "upcoming ship" Dev Blog, barely even a mention at all.
I maintain the assumption that it would be released yesterday was naught but one more reason why they say what they do about "when you assume." Fans went "could it happen," nobody gave a 100% clear denial, and the next step many seem to see as logical was "they're gonna release it!"
Pffft....
There were no hints. It was a definite no.
Assuming there would be a ship on that day is nothing but pure day dream fancy at that point. It is like your boss telling you his office will be closed on Friday but you show up anyway because you assume it will be open.
Well considering that I'm not a fan, nor have any desire to fly a Constellation(it's not even my favorite Heavy Cruiser skin anyway), your implication that only within "fan fever" is it reasonable to assume that the Constellation would be released on Captain Picard day is patently false.
Let's look at the facts. Since the accidental reveal that the Constellation-class ship is in the game, at the very least being worked on, we've known about that. We also are aware of the desire for Cryptic wanting all canon ships eventually to be featured in-game.
The thing is, within the lore, the Constellation-class is mainly famous to fans from Captain Jean-Luc Picard's U.S.S. Stargazer, his first ship command. And Captain Picard Day is an actual thing in-continuity. Add to that, Cryptic has been known to use themes from canon in their events, such as First Contact Day. It was reasonable to assume that of any day of the year, releasing the Constellation-class skin makes the most sense on the 12th of June, Captain Picard Day.
I can accept that there was no announcement. I can also grant you that it was an assumption. But it was indeed a justified one, given the information we already had. And it still is justified. There is a Captain Picard Day coming up next year as well, and it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that it will be released then.
Yes, it might not be. It might be released any day in between now and then. Hell, it may never even be released, despite the STO team's apparent desire to. But it's still reasonable to assume that the Constellation will somehow be tied to Captain Picard Day.
Is that really necessary?
There was no statement that there was not gonna be a ship released on Captain Picard Day. The exact quote was "No free ships or bundles will be given out". That does not discount the possibility of a non-free, non-bundled zen store Constellation being released.
No, it was not a "definite no". See the reasoning I pointed out above.
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There was no hint of any kind ever given by any Dev that the ship was going to be released on that Day. Assuming such a thing was going to happen was all on you, as no Dev said or hinted about it.
You let your imagination get away from you. That is your fault, not theirs.
After flatly being told NO FREE ship, and people thought they'd get one, the crying I see here is quite hilarious(not you, the people you were replying to).
Seriously being told NO FREE ship, then whining one wasn't given, is beyond lunacy.
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I know, right? Amazing how a blatant "no" translates into "hints of yes" if one is devoted enough, I suppose.
-shrug-
In the face of pure fantasy being defended as fact, it's not particularly out of place to...well...anyone who can see that the fantasy is actually fantasy.
And the last time a C-store ship was added out of the blue, with not Dev blog one to build hype was when? :rolleyes:
(No, that wasn't "necessary" either, but refer back to "pure fantasy being defended as fact".)
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Therefore, I standby my "You lied" against the OP.
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So many dead horses ... I am going to have to call PETA. But seriously, as a big fan of Constellation and all canon ships, I was hoping that something would be announced soon-ish. However, I didn't realistically expect yesterday for a few reason:
1. No pre-release blog - hyping or teasing fans
2. No direct confirmation or denial ... usually them ignoring threads is a bad sign
3. Risa even running which probably rules out a 2nd event. Haven't see that ever in STO ... 2 events running in parallel
4. They just released the Patrol Refit
I also don't see them releasing it anytime soon either. Season 9 is going to be focused on Delta Quadrant and they have hinted that Voyager will be a part of that. So I would expect an Intrepid revamp before Constellation release.
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Can you please explain the flaw in my method rather than insult me?
Do you see any tears? No one's crying here. I would appreciate it if you would keep the childish remarks to yourself.
Where was this "blatant no" again...?
Demonstrate the claim that the methods I used had led me to "pure fantasy".
Look, I know you guys are used to personally attacking everyone without second thought, but there's no need for this hostility. If you believe that I am following false information, please explain it to me rather than resorting to this. If I'm believing something that is unjustified, I want to know about it and why. I'm not your enemy here.
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Other than misapplication of the adage "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"? I dunno, you tell me.
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