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LoR Anniversary: Can I dismiss Tovan now?
pweistheworst
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Seriously, it has been a year since LoR was released and a large group of players have been asking for the ability to dismiss him from our list of active BOffs ever since.
I appreciate the fact that he is a Purple BOff with good traits, just like the other free BOffs available for the Fed and KDF players. However, there's just no good reason to keep forcing players to keep Tovan on our bridge.
I know the main issue is that Tovan was integrated into the first episodes in the Romulan storyline and if he isn't there then those missions aren't playable. Well, the easy fix is to make it so you can dismiss and reclaim him (just like the free FED and KDF BOffs) and make it so that you can't replay those first missions unless you have claimed Tovan and he is in your active BOff list.
The main point is that players who don't want Tovan shouldn't be forced to keep him.
Happy Birthday, Tovan ... now DIE!
I appreciate the fact that he is a Purple BOff with good traits, just like the other free BOffs available for the Fed and KDF players. However, there's just no good reason to keep forcing players to keep Tovan on our bridge.
I know the main issue is that Tovan was integrated into the first episodes in the Romulan storyline and if he isn't there then those missions aren't playable. Well, the easy fix is to make it so you can dismiss and reclaim him (just like the free FED and KDF BOffs) and make it so that you can't replay those first missions unless you have claimed Tovan and he is in your active BOff list.
The main point is that players who don't want Tovan shouldn't be forced to keep him.
Happy Birthday, Tovan ... now DIE!
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Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
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I can understand why people wouldn't like him, though. From a certain angle, he - okay, from pretty much nearly every angle - he could be said to be a whiny, complaining space hipster with about as much charisma as half a house brick covered in spiders. I don't know why, but I can empathize with that. Perhaps that means I have mental issues, but that's not what we're discussing right now, thankfully.
Even though I dig the character, I STILL don't understand why people who don't like him are stuck with him. It must seem like a waste of a slot to them, which I can appreciate would be frustrating.
My best guess: Too much is tied into the ingame dialogue. IIRC, A good example would be a particular conversation on a particular (and disappointingly non-Quidditch themed) planet - his conversation will happen whether or not he is on your team or on the ship, or whatever.
But I really do feel for those that feel as though he's more of a burden than a bonus. There really is so much choice about so many things in this game - this seems out of character for the game. Against the spirit of it, so to speak.
Even the often-overlooked KDF aren't saddled with this type of thing, with the possible exception of the ongoing uniform bug. The latest fixes worked for me personally, so that's nice (for me).
I also feel for the RPers who can't even change his bio.
I like him because even though he's whiny and worries too much, he's not sitting on his butt hiding from everything. But he would totally be Bill Paxton in Aliens - I'm under no illusions there.
Plus he makes so many people rage about this dead-horse topic, its laughable. That's a special power right there!
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That is what I want to see. Allow players to "upgrade" his traits and/or skills.
Not good enough. For me his traits and abilities have zero to do with why I want to boot him.
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You're missing the point. It's not just that Tovan takes up a BOff slot ... it's that players cannot choose whether or not we want him on our crew. I don't use K'Gan on my KDF toons or Elisa Flores on my Fed toons ... and I'm not forced to. The Romulan faction is "forced" to keep Tovan whether we want him or not.
If a player likes Tovan that's fine ... they should have the ability to keep him. That doesn't mean everyone should be forced to keep him. I just want Tovan to work like the other free BOffs in that it's the PLAYER'S choice.
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Best description I've heard of a character in a while.
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But then how will I have an entire bridge crew of submissive looking women in bikinis? :rolleyes:
That is the best option: give them their own slot, let players who want to use them use them, let players who don't not. Write more Tovan Khev dialogue and keep it optional as a reward for players who want to use him. Players who do not can turn it off and pretend he isn't there.
I want Tovan GONE from my ships. He's not my friend, not part of my crew, and he's certainly not welcome anywhere near any of my ships.
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kinda how I feel too
It's not even that benign. In every dialog he takes center stage. Exactly who is the captain here? Right. Shut up and sit down, Tovan. If I want your opinion I'll shoot myself in the head.
As the seventy-fourth Rule of Acquisition clearly states, knowledge equals profit. And I am a very rich Ferengi.
"What do you think Three of Four?" (my LoR pack liberated Reman) And Tovan's ugly mug pops up on screen!!!!! WTF?
Setra is OK, as I changed her to look (IMHO) quite hawt! But Tovan? <ewww>
For my KDF side crew, I would throw his behind out an airlock fast as possible. Just sitting there wasting space and still talking without permission.
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This. He must die. The madness has gone on long enough.
Get him off my ship! :mad:
This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!
He might even fail at that. The only reason I keep him around is cause I've trained him in different skill sets that I find useful for space combat. I use a different set of BOFFs as the away team, department heads/first officers, escorts on New Romulus, etc...
God be between you and harm, and all the empty places we must walk.
Yes, there once dead, there would still be no loss from my view.
He's a Purple BoFF, so he SHOULD have SRO! (His other traits aren't all that bad really)
Make him interchangeable with his sister, who would have identical traits and skills.*/**
* This would allow players to have their bridge bunny crews and it would require only some VO for Rinna. 95% of the dialogues could easily be spoken by either Tovan or Rinna, with only a very small number of changes, so the 'script' wouldn't need to be changed much.
I'm pretty sure too, that it isn't all that difficult to substitute character models in he custscenes he's in, because they are all rendered in game using whatever customization you've applied to Tovan.
** At the end of the Tutorial (or earlier perhaps?), bring up a screen, similar to the "Choose Allied Faction" screen, where you get to pick who your childhood/colony companion is, this choice will assign either Tovan or Rinna to you as your first Bridge Officer, and this choice cannot be "unmade" ...
I know it's not as good as being able to get rid of him completely, and I know it's also not a substitute for the stolen BoFF slot, but it would go some way to at least making him useful at endgame.