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The K't'inga, K't'inga Refit and Koro't'inga

flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
edited July 2014 in Klingon Discussion
This question goes out to anyone who might own one, or all of these vessels. I'm looking to buy a Fleet KDF ship that isn't the Mogh. The D7 design is a classic, and I am tempted by it, though am curious to know whether the K't'inga, K't'inga Refit and Koro't'inga are interchangeable within the ship customizer.

Can I switch around the heads, necks, hulls and nacelles, or are they fixed designs?
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  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You can swap all the parts around... if you own all the other K'tinga versions.
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Yes you can. You can even make the classic D7 look, or make your own using the parts.
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  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I recommend you get the Fleet Kamarag instead of the Fleet K'tinga. It looks very similar and has a much better bridge officer layout. It's also very nearly as agile and it's tougher too.
  • wazzagiowwazzagiow Member Posts: 769 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    fleet tor'kaht comes with the vor'cha appearance if that helps. I always enjoyed flying that one.
  • jjumetleyjjumetley Member Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    Can I switch around the heads, necks, hulls and nacelles, or are they fixed designs?
    Bought it lately. Unfortunately you can't mix parts of different variants. Not being a top ship performance-wise I must admit I have a lot of fun flying it.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    emacsheadroom wrote: »
    You can swap all the parts around... if you own all the other K'tinga versions.
    farmallm wrote: »
    Yes you can. You can even make the classic D7 look, or make your own using the parts.
    jjumetley wrote: »
    Bought it lately. Unfortunately you can't mix parts of different variants. Not being a top ship performance-wise I must admit I have a lot of fun flying it.
    Well that's a whole lot of inconsistency if I hadn't seen it before.
    wazzagiow wrote: »
    fleet tor'kaht comes with the vor'cha appearance if that helps. I always enjoyed flying that one.
    I'm (eventually) looking at two Fleet Ships per character. I imagine the Tor'khat will be my 2nd KDF one, but it isn't my focus at the moment. :)
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    This question goes out to anyone who might own one, or all of these vessels. I'm looking to buy a Fleet KDF ship that isn't the Mogh. The D7 design is a classic, and I am tempted by it, though am curious to know whether the K't'inga, K't'inga Refit and Koro't'inga are interchangeable within the ship customizer.

    Can I switch around the heads, necks, hulls and nacelles, or are they fixed designs?

    With the Fleet version it's the same as with the regular versions: you're stuck with a ship that does not allow mix and match between parts. Sorry.:(
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    My recommendation is the same as the earlier poster: Fleet Tor'kaht. Yes, the skin it unlocks is kind of... odd. But it can use the Vor'cha parts, the Vor'kang parts, and the Mirror skin (unlocked by Mirror Vor'cha). And it's the best tactical cruiser in the game.

    Here's mine.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    My recommendation is the same as the earlier poster: Fleet Tor'kaht. Yes, the skin it unlocks is kind of... odd. But it can use the Vor'cha parts, the Vor'kang parts, and the Mirror skin (unlocked by Mirror Vor'cha). And it's the best tactical cruiser in the game.

    Here's mine.

    Oh, Mirror Vor'Cha... I should look for that one on the Exchange. THough maybe not, I don't actually know the Klingon mirror skins yet. But then, it will be some 100,000 credits or so it might set me back, so hardly a big deal.
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  • norai2011norai2011 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    My recommendation is the same as the earlier poster: Fleet Tor'kaht. Yes, the skin it unlocks is kind of... odd. But it can use the Vor'cha parts, the Vor'kang parts, and the Mirror skin (unlocked by Mirror Vor'cha). And it's the best tactical cruiser in the game.

    Here's mine.


    I am with you when it comes to the ships but I like the darker skin it gets better.

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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    emacsheadroom wrote: »
    I recommend you get the Fleet Kamarag instead of the Fleet K'tinga. It looks very similar and has a much better bridge officer layout. It's also very nearly as agile and it's tougher too.

    Oooh, built-in lieutenant commander science. You know what that means, right? It means GW1, which means you can use cannons on it even better.

    Fleet Kam has basically the same layout as the Mirror Negh'Var (except with an LT uni instead of LT eng), which is an awesome ship. And the Kamarag turns even faster than my Tor'Kaht, which uses cannons in PVE no problem (I'm running a hybrid aux2batt/aux2damp build).
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    i always thought of a fleet k't'inga mostly for nostalgic reasons to the canon trek. however what drove me away from it was that it reads more like a cross escort cruiser then an cruiser with high hull points and average turning.
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    mirrorchaos wrote: »
    i always thought of a fleet k't'inga mostly for nostalgic reasons to the canon trek. however what drove me away from it was that it reads more like a cross escort cruiser then an cruiser with high hull points and average turning.

    yeap, same problem as the Fed Heavy Cruiser: engi-heavy BOFF layout on a ship that cant tank.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    mustrumridcully0 wrote: »
    Oh, Mirror Vor'Cha... I should look for that one on the Exchange. THough maybe not, I don't actually know the Klingon mirror skins yet. But then, it will be some 100,000 credits or so it might set me back, so hardly a big deal.

    Klingon mirror material is nice. It actually gives the ship a "mirror" finish- it takes on the colors of the environment around it.
  • icsairgunsicsairguns Member Posts: 1,504 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I would say kiting if your an engineer, kamarang if your science. and my personal favorite ship in the entire game. the Tor'kaht for any of the above and especially tactical.
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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    emacsheadroom wrote: »
    You can swap all the parts around... if you own all the other K'tinga versions.

    This is not correct. I own the Fleet K'tinga and purchased the Koro'tinga appearance bundle. YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNOT MIX AND MATCH THE VARIOUS PARTS OF EACH WITH THE OTHER! You can have a D7 appearance, or a K'tinga appearance or a K'tinga Refit appearance or a Koro'tinga appearance (if you purchased that appearance bundle) BUT YOU CANNOT MIX AND MATCH BETWEEN THOSE APPEARANCE TYPES!

    Which brings up a good question...Why not? C'mon develeopers...Make it so!
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  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    Oooh, built-in lieutenant commander science. You know what that means, right? It means GW1, which means you can use cannons on it even better
    Yeah, it's pretty neat, but is crippled by one serious flaw: The boff layout doesn't actually let you USE cannons effectively: You have only a single Lt Tac slot, which means if you equip your cannons in that slot...you have no attack pattern, and thus the ship is a flop at cannons. You can run beams, quite effectively, but the 4/4 layout limits you to arrays, as otherwise you have too many dead weapon slots. It's one of those neat concepts that falls apart in execution.
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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    emacsheadroom wrote: »
    You can swap all the parts around... if you own all the other K'tinga versions.

    What game are you playing?
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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    farmallm wrote: »
    Yes you can...or make your own using the parts.

    Oh I don't think so!
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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Wouldn't this be nice!

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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Here it is again on another website:

    http://unusualsuspex.deviantart.com/art/Klingon-Warbird-ortho-419423108
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  • ikonn#1068 ikonn
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    edited June 2014
    goodscotch wrote: »
    Here it is again on another website:

    http://unusualsuspex.deviantart.com/art/Klingon-Warbird-ortho-419423108

    Drools....

    That would make a much better K't'inga Refit skin than the current one.

    Something I would really like to see is the fixing of the warp nacelles (non) glow bug.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    goodscotch wrote: »
    Here it is again on another website:

    http://unusualsuspex.deviantart.com/art/Klingon-Warbird-ortho-419423108

    You will probably find it on several websites

    http://www.madshipyard.com/ships.htm

    http://mototsume.deviantart.com/art/Klingon-Warbirds-341072586

    because it's obviously the "Klingon Warbird" from the 2009 Trek movie:

    http://www.klingon-empire.org/photopost/data/505/stxi-klingon-warbird-design.jpg

    and that is pretty much all we need to know about this ship.
    Cryptic does not own the rights to the new movies and thus can't use material that is exclusive to them.
  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    You will probably find it on several websites

    http://www.madshipyard.com/ships.htm

    http://mototsume.deviantart.com/art/Klingon-Warbirds-341072586

    because it's obviously the "Klingon Warbird" from the 2009 Trek movie:

    http://www.klingon-empire.org/photopost/data/505/stxi-klingon-warbird-design.jpg

    and that is pretty much all we need to know about this ship.
    Cryptic does not own the rights to the new movies and thus can't use material that is exclusive to them.

    Wow! Those are great! Thanks for the links.
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  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    because it's obviously the "Klingon Warbird" from the 2009 Trek movie:
    and that is pretty much all we need to know about this ship.
    Cryptic does not own the rights to the new movies and thus can't use material that is exclusive to them.

    A few modifications to the design in those links would take care of any legal issues.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    goodscotch wrote: »
    A few modifications to the design in those links would take care of any legal issues.

    Only if they're so extensive there's only a tentative connection still visible.;)
    The Exeter for example is as close to the JJ Trek Connie as they can get without having their butts sued. The same would apply to the "Warbird" given it's from the exact same material.
  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Only if they're so extensive there's only a tentative connection still visible.;)
    The Exeter for example is as close to the JJ Trek Connie as they can get without having their butts sued. The same would apply to the "Warbird" given it's from the exact same material.

    If they made an effort to change some aspect of the design to the point where certain features are either augmented or missing, then they've got something unique. Extensive? Tentative connection? Take that to a court of law and see if it sticks. Especially in light of the fact that the design in those links already has an appearance that resembles the D7/K'tinga which is already in the game.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    goodscotch wrote: »
    If they made an effort to change some aspect of the design to the point where certain features are either augmented or missing, then they've got something unique. Extensive? Tentative connection? Take that to a court of law and see if it sticks. Especially in light of the fact that the design in those links already has an appearance that resembles the D7/K'tinga which is already in the game.

    Fine you do that.:)
    There's a reason companies shy away from such issues:
    it sometimes takes years to settle and can cost millions.
    We already know what Cryptic has said regardng any chance to get any ship from the new movies.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/07/15/captains-log-interview-with-star-trek-onlines-al-rivera-part/

    To quote Captain Geko: "No". So why would it suddenly be different with the J'J'inga?
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  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    They won't allow future ships to have much if any cross-mixing customization. Why? They guy who worked on these is no longer with the company. A LOT of effort went into making ships mix-matchable, then they stopped. It was too hard for them to bother with. All new ships are fixed and will merely have (rather lame) custom textures -- or maybe at best bent vs straight warp pylons (also lame).

    The Fleet K'Tinga Retro is one of the worst treated ships in the game, in terms of models being bugged (LODs are screwed up), in terms of basic stats (worst hull), etc. I don't think it is advisable unless you know what you're getting into. I have it and use it. Or, I used to use it. I've stopped playing mostly since the last "season" screwed so much of the game over. Before that it was still capable but definitely not top-tier.

    I broke 11K in mine using DHCs before the damage got all borked. Not typical results, but still some semblence of hope, eh?
  • goodscotchgoodscotch Member Posts: 1,680 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    rodentmaster wrote: »
    They won't allow future ships to have much if any cross-mixing customization. Why? They guy who worked on these is no longer with the company.

    Who's responsible for letting this employee go? Sheesh!
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