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Ok so this is kinda the reverse of whining about things being too OP. Well sort of, but for once it is not players. Since the patch on the 25th my ships seem a little more likely to explode on me. After being able to re-spec my Fed eng. char. Thanks Cryptic!!! I spec-ed him for a tank role. Except...it does not seem very tanky. In fact I think I blew up more times than I did before the re-spec. Which does not make much sense since my Char. had skill points distributed in a horrible way. I did not know how to apply them when I first made the char. Now that I do know what I am doing and was able to re-do it...well...it is worse. O.o And this seems to include my science char. as well. Now I get that the Voth and Undine are a challenge, they should be. But if Cryptic is either going to buff something or Nerf it, that should be clear in the patch notes. Which having read them is not! Anyone else noticed this?
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- How many here rely on the Assimilated Set Hull heal?
- Some people report that the Elite Undine Queued missions have become a lot more difficult recently. Could be somethnig is bugged in regards to enemies?
I have strong doubts its the reputation passives, because most people probably slotted the offensive passives anyway, and while you have less passives now active at a time, the ones you have will be stronger than they used to.
The Borg Set is a good candidate for me because I've seen how dominant it actually is. It's basically the single largest hull healing element in the game. Or at least, it used to be.
Almost spat my breakfast over my monitor!
I have to admit it requires a bit more effort to survive in the elite stfs but I'm not having that much trouble and I'm in my new avenger class. I can't see myself having any trouble in a true cruiser.
So I don't know what's going on, unless you're tanking in an escort.
I wonder how the Undine set will compare, I would assume it comes with some sort of regenerative abilities.
Personally I've had no problems with staying alive at all. In fact I'm quite happy the tank has got some support here. Now players actually get damaged and blown up, they have their role back.
It has been talked about in game and someone mentioned dismissing your shuttle as that solved it for them. I haven't tried that yet. Though it does make me wonder if there is a bug.
all i can say that i have 0 problems whit explosions, and depending on what class im playing, i do 12 - 20k dps, im happy whit that.
1. Aux
2. Shields
3. Weapons
4. Engines
So that's one of your "theories" down.
Its not just you noticing it. While I don't feel overly squishy against most things, elite breach is currently one shotting people. It may be the same for all voth elite. I only did it once since the update on my science ship but am going to try it on my assault cruiser now. Expecting pain and suffering. Harder would be good, but just upping damage is poor.
Can you take it into elite breach and see how it goes? I am not being smart I am curious. My science ship was getting smashed in there and am about to take my assault cruiser in however the que seems to be dead (wonder why!)
Thank you for coming out and saying this. I've argued in numerous threads that the key issue is dislocation of expectation - namely, players have got used to not getting blown up, so getting blown up now comes as a rude shock. It's not that the missions are unplayable, it's that there is a chunk of the playerbase that simply doesn't like being taken down by NPCs. I salute your honesty and understand your point, but please be aware that there are some of us that don't mind getting splatted - it's all part of the game.
Personally I don't have a problem getting blown up - it means I've got something to work on in terms of my builds and gameplay - and tackling foes like the Borg, Voth and Undine, even the most powerful Fed / Klingon / Romulan vessels should be heavily challenged. Heck, I think that STO spends too much effort on making players feel like Kirk / Picard / Archer rather than being part of a large space navy. But that's a personal view.
Also, get the Living Hull Trait...That should help a lot with your precious MACO Set.
I run a wide variety of characters with different ships and playstyles; they can generally hold their own just fine and I haven't done extensive testing yet, but something feels a bit.. leaky.. with their general defensiveness now(beyond simple traits). At first I was wondering if perhaps the weapon procs got reversed once again, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Also, it may just be my imagination, but the Borg beams do look a bit visually different than I remember them(a bit more 'electrical' and colorful than regular plasma) and I thought the weapon names looked slightly different in the logs.. I'm wondering if perhaps they got stealth-upgraded. Furthermore, I've noticed debuffs like plasma fire seem to be behaving slightly different now(besides just the new icon for it - the stacking is different).
I don't mind if the enemy would whittle me down with consistent weapons fire, but instead I get one hit torpedo shots either eradicating a shield facing, and almost my entire hull with it, or delivering instant destruction thru shields altogether.
I hate being killed by most of the horrid game designed enemies, do to the simple factor of most of them simply do it thru shields, or by wonder spamming uber torpedoes that eradicate your shields and hull in a split second.
If they fought more like we do minus the actual IQ, than I would die with honor if it came to it.
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The borg are ridiculous, their crappy plasma arrays and cannons on the cubes, and gates do TRIBBLE damage, but they spam torpedoes like they are cannons doing huge shield and hull damage.
I am guessing they are specced out in torpedo skills, with nothing but plasma torpedo consoles boosting the damage output, if I had to guess they must have some 200%+ for CRTD.
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So if you are feeling squishy, what did you actually lose that is behind it? The enemy is not doing more damage that I can tell (old content, not counting undine). It has to be some effect of your rep passives or a change to your gear... ?
Seriously always have an escape plan and even if you're in a sci officer in a vesta, always have some engineering/sci hull and shield heals. Might just save your life.
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I completely understand not releasing patch notes on exploit fixes, such as 'dual saucers/aquarius/ho'sus', which they also stealth fixed - but something like, "We felt the current elite content was too easy, and per players requests, did a fifteen percent damage increase to them across the board" needed to be posted just so we had some idea of what we were facing.
No matter how you want to explain the changes, a Galaxy Dread with resiliant shield, max shield power, hull plating, and 67,000 health running elite fleet neutroniums shouldn't be one shot. By anything. Ever.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 4666 (24593) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 1294 (31845) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 851 (1046) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 1458 (7683) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 830 (1021) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 20190 (34289) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 851 (1046) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 4039 (15620) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 822 (32277) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 513 (1006) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 4101 (19642) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 636 (1009) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 1034 (32778) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 4234 (11862) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 654 (1037) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 624 (33834) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 5361 (26176) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 814 (1002) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 1378 (33895) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 5024 (24529) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 1291 (31763) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 819 (1008) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 5804 (18487) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 607 (1001) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 973 (32105) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 5257 (21988) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 693 (955) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 1157 (31927) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 3754 (20131) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 664 (1003) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 1060 (31997) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 3997 (19144) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 1008 (31947) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 638 (1011) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway's Plasma Torpedo gives 5650 (26018) to your Shields.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 794 (976) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Gateway deals 1369 (33662) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
I count 12 torpedoes from one gateway, and not a single one looked to not try and inflict a critical, even though they don't list a critical.
This is beyond ridiculous for plasma torpedoes not coming from a spread, or even a high yield, heck not even listed as criticals, and if they are criticals than it has a 100% chance for a critical.
Oh and the first 2 were back to back with no, or only 1sec between launching.
I have been monitoring the combat logs in ESTF's, this is the most recent results.
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That is interesting because I've started using transphasic torpedo's again and I've been doing nice damage with them. And that's with no projectile skills nor transphasic console. I do have adapted maco though.
It does make me wonder if torpedo's have been stealth improved.