the dialects in the English language is why it's not wise to be a grammar TRIBBLE. All that matters is that you try to make yourself clear.
Although I hate how my browser, which is set to UK, keeps insisting that colour is not spelled with a u... I'm Canadian! Argh...
Spelt not spelled :P.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Using speech marks instead of quote marks? Heretic :eek:.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
"In American English, spelt primarily refers to the hardy wheat grown mostly in Europe, and the verb spell makes spelled in the past tense and as a past participle. In all other main varieties of English, spelt and spelled both work as the past tense and past participle of spell, at least where spell means to form words letter by letter or (with out) to make clear. Outside the U.S., the two forms are interchangeable in these uses, and both are common."
-Grammarist.com
"Spelled and Spelt
The verb to spell most commonly means to write or name the letters that form (a word) in correct sequence.
To spell is one of those verbs with both an irregular form and a regular form.The past tense and the past participle can be written as either spelled or spelt. However, they not interchangeable, especially in the US.
Americans Demand Spelled
In America, spelled dominates. The use of spelt as the past tense or past participle of to spell is considered a spelling mistake by many. It will certainly annoy a fair proportion of your readers.
Brits Prefer Spelt
Outside America, spelt is more common, but spelled is generally accepted. (This is almost certainly a result of American influence spreading.)"
-GrammarMonster.com
Therefore, 'spelled' would also be correct to use as the past tense of spell.
Oh I knew that, I was just replying to a Canadian with their weird mix of British and American English :P, 'spelled' and colour' in the same sentence .
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
punctuation isnt important people; can read you perfectly well when you type; like, this its not annoying at all
Hmm. Didn't know commas and periods and such were individuals. Just like corporations, I guess. And as long as I keep typing, you can read me, but if I stop, you can't. Good to know if I want to keep any secrets from you. And the last Valley Girl bit got a bit garbled so it needs to be nerfed. Try again.
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My favorite involves someone's Uncle whose name was Jack, and an individual helping him dismount an equine lifeform.
Yes, capitalizing names (or failing to do so) can certainly change the meaning of a sentence.
Again, this isn't a matter of regional dialect or spelling. It's a simple matter of clarity of communication. If I have to stop to decode every sentence you write, I'm probably going to just abandon the effort and go on to read something written more comprehensibly.
Yes, capitalizing names (or failing to do so) can certainly change the meaning of a sentence.
Again, this isn't a matter of regional dialect or spelling. It's a simple matter of clarity of communication. If I have to stop to decode every sentence you write, I'm probably going to just abandon the effort and go on to read something written more comprehensibly.
Trendy, that was fabulous, thank you. I'd not seen/heard that before and I find listening to Stephen Fry speak like that to be simply sublime. I could listen to him for hours.
:rolleyes:
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the dialects in the English language is why it's not wise to be a grammar TRIBBLE. All that matters is that you try to make yourself clear...
Speaking in dialect, I can understand. If you want to speak in your natural dialect, please feel free to do so, but please still use proper grammar. Blame my DNA, but I myself naturally use Germanic/Norse spellings, most notably, Amerika, Afrika, and alkohol. Given my education, I still make sure to use proper grammar, punctuation, and capitalisations.
I generally try to type in as legible a form as possible, when I can get my arthritic fingers to co-operate, but I am not being paid to do it nor will it benefit me in any way that matters to me in life, so if I make a mistake or my grammar doesn't suit someone, I won't be losing any sleep over it. I think if the message is conveyed that should be sufficient, asking for more in a game is taking matters to the point of being ridiculous.
If something is not broken, don't fix it, if it is broken, don't leave it broken.
Hehehe well that back fired on me! I put a period instead of a question mark... I guess no one noticed that! XD
Just so everyone knows, lets means let us for example: "Let's go get something to eat."
Incorrect usage example: "My dad let's me watch TV if my homework is finished early."
Hehehe well that back fired on me! I put a period instead of a question mark... I guess no one noticed that! XD
Just so everyone knows, lets means let us for example: "Let's go get something to eat."
Incorrect usage example: "My dad let's me watch TV if my homework is finished early."
"Let's be friends." is a perfectly valid statement. You would only need a question mark if you asked "Do you want to be friends?"
Of course, you can make a question out of a statement. "Let's be friends?" is informal and may not follow grammar rules, but in my book is still acceptable.
I see no error in your apostrophe use. I just decided it would be amusing to add an ever-increasing flood apostrophe errors to my post.
Wow. No idea who Stephen Fry is, but what an insensitive prick to totally disregard people with OCD. I wonder if he feels better insulting people he doesn't understand like that.
Wow. No idea who Stephen Fry is, but what an insensitive prick to totally disregard people with OCD. I wonder if he feels better insulting people he doesn't understand like that.
Which is almost funny, considering Stephen Fry has admitted he suffers from untreated Bi-Polar Disorder and only started taking medication to control the symptoms in 2013 -- 3 years after that video was released.
He can come off just as pedantic as the people he criticises, but he does have quite the following on Twitter (or so I hear), not that having a large Twitter following should make anyone's opinion more or less respected.
He has some good points but overall I think he missed the mark on his argument, because I don't sincerely believe those nit-pickers he references are the real problem with the art of the written word in today's age.
Sometimes I think Stephen Fry wishes he were Richard Dawkins, and the fact he can't be bothers him. Just my impression on the guy.
"Let's be friends." is a perfectly valid statement. You would only need a question mark if you asked "Do you want to be friends?"
Of course, you can make a question out of a statement. "Let's be friends?" is informal and may not follow grammar rules, but in my book is still acceptable.
I see no error in your apostrophe use. I just decided it would be amusing to add an ever-increasing flood apostrophe errors to my post.
Haha look at the trouble I caused. :P I'll still be your friend! What improper grammar use annoys you most?
Textpeak. Definitely textspeak. An occasional LOL, BTW, etc. are okay, but it can quickly reach incomprehensible levels.
M8, I dnt no wat you mean.
Seriously, though, I always take care to make sure my grammar is correct, but I don't mind if other people dont. I'll sometimes point it out in jest at school, but I won't make a big deal out of it. As long as I can read it, I'm fine with it.
P.S. See if you can find the grammar error in this post. :P
Seriously, though, I always take care to make sure my grammar is correct, but I don't mind if other people dont. I'll sometimes point it out in jest at school, but I won't make a big deal out of it. As long as I can read it, I'm fine with it.
P.S. See if you can find the grammar error in this post. :P
1) The 'text-speak'.
2) You forgot to use an apostrophe when you wrote a contraction.
3) You need to acquaint your self more with a comma, and parenthesis. ( ... , at school, ... )
4) Otherwise; good!
Hopefully I'll come back from my break; this break is fun; I play intellectual games.
We both share a similar stance. I personally am 'pro-grammar / syntax', but many of my class mates refuse to understand the point.
My Grandmother was an English Professor, and I myself have an English degree, so the usage of proper grammar is seen as a sign of intelligence. All this modern childhood texting stuff, as well as native English speakers being barely able to use English at all, is in reality, not much more than laziness. The art of communication is a dying art, which greatly saddens me. Each year, it only seems to further reinforce Grandmother's words. "English is a lazy language."
I have close friends in Ukraine, Greece, Germany, Sweden, and the Kingdom of the Netherlands. They are all fluent in at least three languages, and none of them are under any obligation to publicly use English at all, but each of them are much better with English then most native English speakers. This should be an inspiration for anyone using English on a day to day basis. In all honesty, if you are a native English speaker, you should be holding yourself to a high standard. And more importantly, if you make the choice to be monolingual, you need to master that language.
Grammatical error: that should read, "M8, idk wat u mean."
Seriously, though, I always take care to make sure my grammar is correct, but I don't mind if other people dont. I'll sometimes point it out in jest at school, but I won't make a big deal out of it. As long as I can read it, I'm fine with it.
P.S. See if you can find the grammar error in this post. :P
Two points: left out the apostrophe on "don't", and the sentence in question reads that while you make sure your grammar is correct, you don't mind if others don't make sure your grammar is correct.
My Grandmother was an English Professor, and I myself have an English degree, so the usage of proper grammar is seen as a sign of intelligence. All this modern childhood texting stuff, as well as native English speakers being barely able to use English at all, is in reality, not much more than laziness. The art of communication is a dying art, which greatly saddens me. Each year, it only seems to further reinforce Grandmother's words. "English is a lazy language."
This reminds me of a time I watched this CBBC show, when these mis-behaving children were sent to a foreign school to appreciate what they have. As it happened, this one pair was sent to South Korea; when they arrived at the school, they participated in the lesson. It was about half way through, that they were asked questions, such as: "Where is the grammar mistake in this sentence?", or, "Where is the syntax error?"
They couldn't answer it, and to make matters worse, the whole class (bar them) out their hands up and answered the questions.
Foriegners > Englishmen.
Errrr? Did I say, one of the boy's aspirations in life was to be a lorry driver ...
Hopefully I'll come back from my break; this break is fun; I play intellectual games.
Textpeak. Definitely textspeak. An occasional LOL, BTW, etc. are okay, but it can quickly reach incomprehensible levels.
Haha okay, so I confess I do use "lol" a lot. Bad habit, but I don't use it in formal writing... ever. I see students do that all the time in papers and discussion posts. NO NO NO NO!!!! Oh and my mom texts now and she always uses those. Some of them I'm just like WTF does that mean? :P I finally told her what DTF meant.
Haha okay, so I confess I do use "lol" a lot. Bad habit, but I don't use it in formal writing... ever. I see students do that all the time in papers and discussion posts. NO NO NO NO!!!! Oh and my mom texts now and she always uses those. Some of them I'm just like WTF does that mean? :P I finally told her what DTF meant.
I hear people saying it, let alone writing it!
Tell me, why on earth will someone who is laughing say that he/she is laughing? Moreover, we speak in our own language, lol is not in our language!
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Spelt not spelled :P.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Using speech marks instead of quote marks? Heretic :eek:.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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"Spelled and Spelt
The verb to spell most commonly means to write or name the letters that form (a word) in correct sequence.
To spell is one of those verbs with both an irregular form and a regular form.The past tense and the past participle can be written as either spelled or spelt. However, they not interchangeable, especially in the US.
Americans Demand Spelled
In America, spelled dominates. The use of spelt as the past tense or past participle of to spell is considered a spelling mistake by many. It will certainly annoy a fair proportion of your readers.
Brits Prefer Spelt
Outside America, spelt is more common, but spelled is generally accepted. (This is almost certainly a result of American influence spreading.)"
-GrammarMonster.com
Therefore, 'spelled' would also be correct to use as the past tense of spell.
Oh I knew that, I was just replying to a Canadian with their weird mix of British and American English :P, 'spelled' and colour' in the same sentence
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Hmm. Didn't know commas and periods and such were individuals. Just like corporations, I guess. And as long as I keep typing, you can read me, but if I stop, you can't. Good to know if I want to keep any secrets from you. And the last Valley Girl bit got a bit garbled so it needs to be nerfed. Try again.
Again, this isn't a matter of regional dialect or spelling. It's a simple matter of clarity of communication. If I have to stop to decode every sentence you write, I'm probably going to just abandon the effort and go on to read something written more comprehensibly.
So... true...
Fixed that for you... :P
Trendy, that was fabulous, thank you. I'd not seen/heard that before and I find listening to Stephen Fry speak like that to be simply sublime. I could listen to him for hours.
:rolleyes:
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Hehehe well that back fired on me! I put a period instead of a question mark... I guess no one noticed that! XD
Just so everyone knows, lets means let us for example: "Let's go get something to eat."
Incorrect usage example: "My dad let's me watch TV if my homework is finished early."
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Of course, you can make a question out of a statement. "Let's be friends?" is informal and may not follow grammar rules, but in my book is still acceptable.
I see no error in your apostrophe use. I just decided it would be amusing to add an ever-increasing flood apostrophe errors to my post.
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Which is almost funny, considering Stephen Fry has admitted he suffers from untreated Bi-Polar Disorder and only started taking medication to control the symptoms in 2013 -- 3 years after that video was released.
He can come off just as pedantic as the people he criticises, but he does have quite the following on Twitter (or so I hear), not that having a large Twitter following should make anyone's opinion more or less respected.
He has some good points but overall I think he missed the mark on his argument, because I don't sincerely believe those nit-pickers he references are the real problem with the art of the written word in today's age.
Sometimes I think Stephen Fry wishes he were Richard Dawkins, and the fact he can't be bothers him. Just my impression on the guy.
Haha look at the trouble I caused. :P I'll still be your friend! What improper grammar use annoys you most?
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M8, I dnt no wat you mean.
Seriously, though, I always take care to make sure my grammar is correct, but I don't mind if other people dont. I'll sometimes point it out in jest at school, but I won't make a big deal out of it. As long as I can read it, I'm fine with it.
P.S. See if you can find the grammar error in this post. :P
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We both share a similar stance.
I personally am 'pro-grammar / syntax', but many of my class mates refuse to understand the point.
1) The 'text-speak'.
2) You forgot to use an apostrophe when you wrote a contraction.
3) You need to acquaint your self more with a comma, and parenthesis. ( ... , at school, ... )
4) Otherwise; good!
I hope STO get's better ...
I have close friends in Ukraine, Greece, Germany, Sweden, and the Kingdom of the Netherlands. They are all fluent in at least three languages, and none of them are under any obligation to publicly use English at all, but each of them are much better with English then most native English speakers. This should be an inspiration for anyone using English on a day to day basis. In all honesty, if you are a native English speaker, you should be holding yourself to a high standard. And more importantly, if you make the choice to be monolingual, you need to master that language.
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Two points: left out the apostrophe on "don't", and the sentence in question reads that while you make sure your grammar is correct, you don't mind if others don't make sure your grammar is correct.
This reminds me of a time I watched this CBBC show, when these mis-behaving children were sent to a foreign school to appreciate what they have. As it happened, this one pair was sent to South Korea; when they arrived at the school, they participated in the lesson. It was about half way through, that they were asked questions, such as: "Where is the grammar mistake in this sentence?", or, "Where is the syntax error?"
They couldn't answer it, and to make matters worse, the whole class (bar them) out their hands up and answered the questions.
Foriegners > Englishmen.
Errrr? Did I say, one of the boy's aspirations in life was to be a lorry driver ...
I hope STO get's better ...
Do you have the Grande Dicion
Haha okay, so I confess I do use "lol" a lot. Bad habit, but I don't use it in formal writing... ever. I see students do that all the time in papers and discussion posts. NO NO NO NO!!!! Oh and my mom texts now and she always uses those. Some of them I'm just like WTF does that mean? :P I finally told her what DTF meant.
I hear people saying it, let alone writing it!
Tell me, why on earth will someone who is laughing say that he/she is laughing? Moreover, we speak in our own language, lol is not in our language!
Oh well...