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OMG!! PvP players caused another NERF!!
spacebaronline
Member Posts: 1,103 Arc User
This time it was the Borg set bonus hull heal!!
Every nerf in this game was due to a PvP player complaints!!
Rep nerf = PvP players
Black goo console = PvP players
Valdore console = PvP players
You name it - X was nerfed because of PvP players!!
Even the last Dilithium nerf was due to PvP players!!
Damn them I liked my extra dilithium - why PvP players did you have it nerfed:mad:
/sarcasm
On a more serious note - if PvP players have sooo much influence in the game - how come they can't get a decent balance pass done??
-maybe like diminishing returns on stacking : doffs/captain traits/Boff traits
-Bfaw
-power overcapping
Come on get nerfing!!
Every nerf in this game was due to a PvP player complaints!!
Rep nerf = PvP players
Black goo console = PvP players
Valdore console = PvP players
You name it - X was nerfed because of PvP players!!
Even the last Dilithium nerf was due to PvP players!!
Damn them I liked my extra dilithium - why PvP players did you have it nerfed:mad:
/sarcasm
On a more serious note - if PvP players have sooo much influence in the game - how come they can't get a decent balance pass done??
-maybe like diminishing returns on stacking : doffs/captain traits/Boff traits
-Bfaw
-power overcapping
Come on get nerfing!!
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Step 1: Nerf everyone.
Step 2: PVE players go away.
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Bristling PvP Queues, PvP Leaderboards, PvP Territory Control
Step 2 proved harder than we thought.
Mustrum "Oops, I haven't actually seriously PvPed for months and am just doing PvE" Ridcully
Me playing UT2k4 (red guy) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz0DnP7wXnU
Fixed that for ya!
What power creep ?
I do more dps now than before...This patch increased the power creep lol
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Yes, we are terrible human beings.
You get your PvE heros in their bfaw dem scimitards getting 80k DPS and clearing ISE in minutes, making them feel like they're good.
Balance is really needed, craptic doesn't think when they add new consoles and powers. A lot of the problems stem from the PvE heros wanting instant gratification and an "I win" button.
Don't blame PVPers for wanting to curtail the ridiculousness of all this power creep. All in all PvE people are ruining it as craptic caters to them and they always open their wallets to craptic.
Openly admitting your mistakes and accepting responsibility is the first step to healing and redemption:P
How so? Besides, even if there is a small boost, the new system prevents the stacking of these powers for future reps.
You completely overestimate the effect those rep-traits have on the performance of ships in PVE. Do you really think that someone who pumps out 40k+ DPS in a Scimitar will notice when his 2.5% chance for an additional 700 Graviton Amlifier Damage is missing?
Power creep came from a new tier of ships, new ship layouts and fleet gear combined with a better understanding of game mechanics by the broad public ("A2B"). The impact those little rep-traits have on PVE performance are almost negligble.
Cryptic cannot force me to do anything I don't want. They don't own me. And Sorry but I'm having zero issue with the borg 2 piece set in PvE, in fact my vesta has adapted very well. That pun was not intentional o.O;
Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
I did the same with a Fed Tac and the Gal-X.
The day he hit 50, I put Mk X green [Acc] on from the exchange on his ship, full cannon / turret config and hit 16K DPS. Spent less than 1 million EC on the whole setup.
Agreed. I just rolled three new toons, and no one is getting bought anything over 11 Blue. I do just fine in ESTFs. Now granted not what some of my better geared toons do, but I get through map.
I hope everyone read that I was being sarcastic - I even through in the part in color about pvp players causing the last dilithium nerf - just to be sure people got it. Oh well.
But there are a few threads out since S9 went live about the borg set piece not healing as much - because it was "adjusted" - nerfed if you like - to work more to be the same scale across all hull sizes.
Seeing a LOT of big ships popping like popcorn in PvE matches in the last 2 days I can see why the issue is a hot topic now - but it's not just the borg set nerf - the rep trait system used to allow player to be powerful BOTH offensive AND defensive.
Of course there are already SEVERAL posts in these threads saying that it was the PvP players screaming at the the devs for a nerf. When technically it was probably one of the last things that most pvp players were asking for an "adjustment"
Aux to Bat + Bfaw + doff power overcapping + other OP doffs - anyone?
Heck pvp players wanted a nerf to emerg power to engines more than an nerf to the borg set.
So, you've not seen the rep trait that adds 40% damage bonus to torps and mines over 6 seconds? or the ones that give you direct hull damage? or the added CrtH or CrtD traits?
What about the escorts now tanking in ESTFs due to traits giving "emergency shields"? or extra shield and hull resists?
Nope, non of that adds to power creep at all does it ! :rolleyes:
The Rep nerf was needed to stop future power creep caused by reputation passives not current power creep. Right now, it is almost non-existent, but when we have 15 Reputations and 60 Reputation passives, then there will be massive power creep caused by reputation passives. After all, if you think the reaction is bad when we had only 4 Reputations, imagine how bad it would be if we had 15 reputations and Cryptic needed to make this change instead of being proactive.
No offense to morons intended.
+ 1% crit chance went from 3% to 4%
+ 16% crtD
Gravaton amp goes per wepon now not per cycle
something else ...forgot sorry
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
For making a thread musing at people blaming PvP players for all the games nerfs?:eek:
Nah, for thinking it was a good idea to do, and stupidity for not understanding the underling problems and assigning it to PvPers.
In reality all I heard was "waaa waaa waaa PvPers waaa waaa waaa"
The gag - that you missed, was the OP was poking fun at those who blame PvPers - by imitating them in a funny way....
You, seem to be the only one who missed the point, then genuinely insult him for you missing the gag
I'm going to go look up the word "moron", I think I may find a picture of you there :P
The forums have just been so full of MEH lately....thought I would throw in something funny. Guess not everyone has a "humor/sarcasim" detector no matter how obvious you make it:eek:
So... why is it so bad to complete an ISE "in minutes"?
I've always found it a blessing to pug into a group that knows what they're doing and we clear it "in minutes" so I can get on with my day.
PvE hero.....
Um, that's nerfarious. :P