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Broken traits

meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
edited April 2014 in PC Gameplay Bug Reports
Already a major, major bug: 2 of my personal traits are filled up with 'Superior Romulan Operative' (yes, 2!), and can't be removed! That's not even a trait Romulans have! (only RO).

Cryptic fubarred my Traits

Do you ppl never ever test anything beyond 5 seconds?!

I'm not going to play this game with 2 traits less. TRIBBLE that.
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    dhalldevdhalldev Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    When you say you can't remove the traits, are you saying that unchecking the "trait is active" box does not work? If so, is that only for specific traits, or all your traits?
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    doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It affect specific traits. Traits that wedge themselves in there cannot be removed because they aren't actually on the list on the right. All my Remans, for instance, have a stuck "Resilient" trait, that cannot be removed because Resilient is not on the Reman trait list at all.

    Ferrengi seem to have a stuck "Lobes" trait, that should have been integrated into the Ferrengi racial, but is instead an extra trait that cannot be removed because it is not on the right side list to be checked or unchecked.

    I am still in the process of cycling through my dudes, so I am sure more odd issues and patterns will be found.

    A "Clear All" button would certainly help to resolve such issues that may occur in the future if traitlists are changed for any reason.
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    dhalldev wrote: »
    When you say you can't remove the traits, are you saying that unchecking the "trait is active" box does not work? If so, is that only for specific traits, or all your traits?

    As you can tell from the image (I hope), the first 2 traits on my list of 8 are Superior Romulan Operative. Even having 2 of those concurrently should be impossible; and they can't be deactivaved, as SRO is not a trait a Rom is even supposed to have (or any player, for that matter).

    So, as a result I'm stuck with 2 basically non-existing traits, and can only slot 6 of my old traits. :(
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    doffingcomrade wrote: »
    It affect specific traits. Traits that wedge themselves in there cannot be removed because they aren't actually on the list on the right. All my Remans, for instance, have a stuck "Resilient" trait, that cannot be removed because Resilient is not on the Reman trait list at all.

    Ferrengi seem to have a stuck "Lobes" trait, that should have been integrated into the Ferrengi racial, but is instead an extra trait that cannot be removed because it is not on the right side list to be checked or unchecked.

    I am still in the process of cycling through my dudes, so I am sure more odd issues and patterns will be found.

    A "Clear All" button would certainly help to resolve such issues that may occur in the future if traitlists are changed for any reason.


    ^^ Hear ye him! Exactly this.
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    architect13architect13 Member Posts: 1,076 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    doffingcomrade wrote: »
    It affect specific traits. Traits that wedge themselves in there cannot be removed because they aren't actually on the list on the right. All my Remans, for instance, have a stuck "Resilient" trait, that cannot be removed because Resilient is not on the Reman trait list at all.

    Ferrengi seem to have a stuck "Lobes" trait, that should have been integrated into the Ferrengi racial, but is instead an extra trait that cannot be removed because it is not on the right side list to be checked or unchecked.

    I am still in the process of cycling through my dudes, so I am sure more odd issues and patterns will be found.

    A "Clear All" button would certainly help to resolve such issues that may occur in the future if traitlists are changed for any reason.

    . . . Or not messing with them to start with.
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    silverrain79silverrain79 Member Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    dhalldev wrote: »
    When you say you can't remove the traits, are you saying that unchecking the "trait is active" box does not work? If so, is that only for specific traits, or all your traits?

    I just posted about this 20min ago or so... My Fed Trill has 2 copies, there is no option to uncheck them b/c they should not exist... Not a Romulan.
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    havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    add to broken traits, my fed joined trill no longer has access to the lockbox traits he unlocked. (Fleet Techie, and Helmsman). Hwat used to be other traits is missing from the list of available traits. Tried chaging maps logging in and out etc. Not happy about this. I logged on on new romulus ground.

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    virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Hrmm, my Reman doesn't have any locked traits in that sense...he had Intimidating, Accurate, and Conservation of Energy pre-slotted; but can click the Trait is Active to deselect them. However, Singularity Specialist is nowhere to be found.
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    xablisxablis Member Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    1) I have a kdf alien toon who has somehow picked up a telekinetic attack power that she never had that cannot be removed.

    2) My lethean only has access to his original traits and cannot select anything else to switch around because there is nothing else on the list. Also, all of his rep traits (all 4 old reps maxxed) are unavailable because it says he needs to respec, but whenever i attempt to respec it just closes the window. Great QA once again Cryptic.
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Hrmm, my Reman doesn't have any locked traits in that sense...he had Intimidating, Accurate, and Conservation of Energy pre-slotted; but can click the Trait is Active to deselect them. However, Singularity Specialist is nowhere to be found.

    Yeah; thank Gawd I still have my (very) expensive traits like Helmsman and Inspirational Leader, or I would have rage-quit on the spot. :P
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    borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    edited April 2014
    I don't have any advice regarding "stuck" Traits, but if you believe you may be missing one or more from your list, please try changing maps a few times to see if that causes them to appear.

    If it does not, please be sure to list the exact Trait that is missing from your list.
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    virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    I don't have any advice regarding "stuck" Traits, but if you believe you may be missing one or more from your list, please try changing maps a few times to see if that causes them to appear.

    If it does not, please be sure to list the exact Trait that is missing from your list.

    Have bounced around from Sector to Normal to Ground and through map transitions for Surface Tension.

    Missing Singularity Specialist in the list on my Reman.

    edit: Even bought a new trait, still missing. Relogged, still missing.
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    scrooge69scrooge69 Member Posts: 1,108 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    On my reman I cant remove Resilliant from my active traits

    it does not appear in the list (ye I clicked on it)
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    janetza#4790 janetza
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    edited April 2014
    On my romulan character most of base traits are missing from list. I have only 3 ground traits. Screenshot:
    http://imgur.com/Ueptd0c
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    mattaukettmattaukett Member Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    My Fed Trill Engineer is missing her Fleet Technician (Space Engineering Profession Specific Trait), changed maps a few times as suggested, with no luck in getting the trait to show in the available traits list.
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    stachel1337stachel1337 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    scrooge69 wrote: »
    On my reman I cant remove Resilliant from my active traits

    it does not appear in the list (ye I clicked on it)

    i have exactly the same problem. got the resilient trait on my reman and i cant get rid of it.
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    maltinpolarmaltinpolar Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    xablis wrote: »
    1) I have a kdf alien toon who has somehow picked up a telekinetic attack power that she never had that cannot be removed.


    Interesting. I have a KDF alien toon that is missing his innate, activatable Telekinetic trait. It doesn't even show in the available traits list.

    This paired with his also missing Fleet Technician [purchased] trait that I already reported in another thread.

    And I haven't even checked my other four toons yet... *sigh*

    Major fubar, Cryptic.
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    xablisxablis Member Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    scrooge69 wrote: »
    On my reman I cant remove Resilliant from my active traits

    it does not appear in the list (ye I clicked on it)

    KDF aligned reman, same issue. Tried changing maps several times, still same issue. No issues at all with fed toons or fed aligned romulan toon.
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    ironchefbbqironchefbbq Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    I don't have any advice regarding "stuck" Traits, but if you believe you may be missing one or more from your list, please try changing maps a few times to see if that causes them to appear.

    If it does not, please be sure to list the exact Trait that is missing from your list.

    What exactly is changing maps supposed to accomplish? I have tried it in sector space, orbiting a planet and on First City. Nothing changes.

    My Gorn is missing the Helmsman trait completely.
    I am only able to select from a truncated list of Personal Traits:
    -Accurate
    -Bite
    -Lucky
    -Nanomolecular Architect
    -Soldier
    -Techie
    -Warp Theorist
    -Grace Under Fire

    I have no available Space/Ground/Active Traits to choose from.
    I do however have a listing for Other Traits >> Well Travelled


    For reference, I logged in on that character for the first time in season 9 orbiting Defera. I also suffer from the IVALID SKILL bug where I cannot respect skills because I do not 'have the minimum points in rank' even though I can allocate all of them.
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    silverrain79silverrain79 Member Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    After relogging several times, due to fiddling with my graphics settings, the two erroneous copies of SupRomOp have vanished and I can now slot the appropriate traits on my Fed Trill Sci.
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    dafmeisterdafmeister Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    So, basically, keep thumping it until it behaves?
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    monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I reported this April 4th in the Tribble bug section http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=16143101#post16143101 In this post I had checked it out on Holodeck and listed all of the missing traits. I am missing 3 ground and a whole lot of space traits, none of them special traits like lock box.

    My male Bajoran Captain only has 8 species traits to choose from.

    Other problems: I have tier 5 in all 4 reps (new rep excluded) and I don't have a *single* reputation trait available because it's telling me that my skills are invalid and I need to repsec.

    Message in rep tab http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/MonkeyGuts69/reputationwindow_zpsd574a6dc.jpg~original All 5 reputations have this message in the status.

    http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/MonkeyGuts69/missingreptraits_zps49372eff.jpg~original Not a single rep trait available due to the game thinking my skills are invalid.

    I have a message at the bottom right corner of my skill tab saying my skills are invalid with a 'Respec' button. But clicking the button just closes the window.
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    poorpiratepoorpirate Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Same Problem on my Gorn Sci over here...
    8 Traits to choose.
    All Reputation Abilities missing.
    Skills invalid!?!
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    edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    So, i dont get it. What is the purpose of tribble, then?? :eek:
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    tmottmot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Got a similar problem on my fed aligned romulan:
    3 times the romulan operative trait (the normal one), I can only remove one and I have not experienced the invalid skill bug
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    ironchefbbqironchefbbq Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    I don't have any advice regarding "stuck" Traits, but if you believe you may be missing one or more from your list, please try changing maps a few times to see if that causes them to appear.

    If it does not, please be sure to list the exact Trait that is missing from your list.

    My Reman Tacical has an 'active' trait that does not appear in the Available Traits section. The Soldier trait is one of the three active traits on my character when I logged him in for the first time. The Superior Soldier trait appears in the Available Traits section and I can make it active/inactive.

    So, is the Soldier trait supposed to be there? Does it actually have any affect on game play or is it just eating up a trait slot?

    For reference, I logged in at the Klingon Academy. I can set Personal, Space, Ground and Active traits. My skills apparently are valid.
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    turbografix16turbografix16 Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Edited for failure.
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    nandospcnandospc Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Same problem here, on one of my toon i haven't the old fleet technician, there isn't in the list, gone.... :confused:
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    iamynaughtiamynaught Member Posts: 1,285 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Add my Sci Gorn captain to the broken trait list. I only have 6 total traits in the right side window. Accurate, Bite, Conservation of Energy, Creative, Medical Vanguard and Warp Theorist are the only ones there, I'm missing more than half my traits!

    I also seem to have the "Invalid Skills" bug going on as well. Clicking on the Respec button closes the window and visiting the Skills Trainer in First City doesn't help either because even after respecing, the Accept button is greyed out and I can't actually change anything.

    Editing to add my Klingon and Federation Allied Remans to the list as well. I have the Resilient trait that I can't remove as others have described.

    Adding in my Ferengi Tac captain. Can't remove the Lobes trait. Not that I want to mind you, just that I can't. Also only have 8 total traits, so I'm missing a few as well. Also the "Skills Invalid" bug is present for this character as well. Can't respec, similar circumstances to my Gorn.

    Looks like that's all my characters who are "broken". Four out of twenty, 20% of my characters are broken. Not good Cryptic, not good at all. :(
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    rossclansforce1rossclansforce1 Member Posts: 400 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I know you guys are talking about the toon traits but what about the bridge officer ones? We all worked real hard to get those romulan bridge officers and now they have no passives...:eek:
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