I know you guys are talking about the toon traits but what about the bridge officer ones? We all worked real hard to get those romulan bridge officers and now they have no passives...:eek:
ROFL, that explains why the crit monsters seem to have been tamed today. I'll enjoy these couple of bug filled days.
Devs, thanks for giving us a couple of accidental days of pre LoR power creep days. It feels good.
My kdf Sci gorn has the same problem with the invalid skill bug and cannot respec because the accept button is greyed out. Because of this bug I can't slot any rep traits
Many of my other toons have traits that are missing. All my lib borg captains lost their efficient traits. My kdf orion tac is missing species traits and has a trait that's not on my list to unslot. I actually have a couple of characters can't unslot locked traits. My ferengi eng has the lobes trait taking up a slot and I thought it was attached to the species traits and not take up one of the eight. I have 19 characters so I know I need to look at them more closely. I know some of them have traits that are missing.
My Orion had SRO I couldn't remove. Though map transitioning magically removed it.
However, "Seduce" does NOT appear to be available as a trait option anywhere, and the female Orion innate ground traits aren't shown when clicking on Orion species name up top of trait page.
Rather than list the missing Ground Traits for my Sci Gorn, it will be easier to list the two that are there. Yep, just two Ground Traits available: Creative and Medical Vanguard. /cough
edit: That's not counting the 20 missing Rep Traits because of the Invalid Skills bug. /facepalm
Only have 6 traits in the "personal traits" list...Accurate, Conservation of Energy, Peak Health, Stubborn, Sturdy, and Warp Theorist. I believe these are the traits I had picked previous to this new trait "reset".
Nothing else in the list to select.
Not even "common" ones like: Lucky or Aggressive...missing career specific ones: Medical Vanguard, Field Researcher, Photonic Capacitor (?). In other words, the Ferengi only has access to traits I had active before....everything else is missing.
(note: haven't done rep...so nothing to check there)
After reading the other posts in this thread, I checked the "Skill Tree" tab.....the Ferengi, also, has the "Skills Invalid" notice...and clicking the "Respec" button only closes the window.
I have checked the 5 other characters I have on my account, they do not have a short trait list. Therefore, I did not cross check their lists with the Wiki page to see if any are actually "missing". And the other characters do not have "Skills Invalid" notice on their skill trees.
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Found Trait Bug for Liberated Borg Captains. "Efficient Captain" was missing from my character and I initially thought it was nerfed or bugged.
I did some testing by creating new chars and looking at their space stats. Efficient Captain is still active for Liberated Borg Captains but it does not show in the Trait List.
I reported this April 4th in the Tribble bug section http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=16143101#post16143101 In this post I had checked it out on Holodeck and listed all of the missing traits. I am missing 3 ground and a whole lot of space traits, none of them special traits like lock box.
My male Bajoran Captain only has 8 species traits to choose from.
Other problems: I have tier 5 in all 4 reps (new rep excluded) and I don't have a *single* reputation trait available because it's telling me that my skills are invalid and I need to repsec.
I have a message at the bottom right corner of my skill tab saying my skills are invalid with a 'Respec' button. But clicking the button just closes the window.
To add too this: I just completed the new featured episode 'Surface Tension' on my Bajoran engineer and chose the ground trait: fluidic antigens as a reward. Well I'm not seeing the new species trait at all. I'm still only seeing the regular 8 species traits that I had slotted before season 9 launched. (Love the new episode BTW. )
It affect specific traits. Traits that wedge themselves in there cannot be removed because they aren't actually on the list on the right. All my Remans, for instance, have a stuck "Resilient" trait, that cannot be removed because Resilient is not on the Reman trait list at all.
Ferrengi seem to have a stuck "Lobes" trait, that should have been integrated into the Ferrengi racial, but is instead an extra trait that cannot be removed because it is not on the right side list to be checked or unchecked.
I am still in the process of cycling through my dudes, so I am sure more odd issues and patterns will be found.
A "Clear All" button would certainly help to resolve such issues that may occur in the future if traitlists are changed for any reason.
My Reman Character shares the issue of being stuck with the "resilient" trait.
If I understand the race info right, this should be part of the "naturally given" traits.
This would explain why the trait doesn't appear in the trait list.
All other chars were without problems.
I think such a "clear all" button would be a great idea.
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I'd like to see a bug confirmation from a dev here.
The problem is wider than you think, all my friend list have this bug: all of them are experiencing the missing of the fleet technician/tactician/scientist trait and a lot more
I cannot use any of the new trait system functions other than the personal traits for it is telling me i have invalid skills? But my personal traits are all woorking fine for the time being, just non of the reputation or special crate traits; and just with my fed bajoran tact officer while the other two rom and kling working fine it seems.
I have no answers or advice, but starting over could be fun? (that was a joke) like you have to explain every detail or maybe Section 41 may have questions for you in some dark reassess of a rented holosweet from a unscrupulous Ferenginard.
Last time at season 8 update there seemed to be some issues with game play graphics whys i assume that seemed to be happening this time also that may be taking priority over are lowly trait issue. Which those issues with game play seemed to be work through pretty fast, plus maybe higher server traffic, maybe stuff anyway
After todays update with fixes I still have ZERO traits and invalid skills and no respect on the planet (or space station) is going to fix it right now. Got to love a game that does not even let you play it other than doff missions.
I just ran across this on one of my characters. I tried three before this, and they were all fine; it's only this one (a Ferengi, if that helps at all) that's having problems so far. (Mind you, I have 22 characters, so going through them all will take some time...)
My Trill captain has a trait slot filled with Covert, but in the list of available traits, Covert is not there so I cannot deactivate it. Instead of Covert, the list does include Superior Covert.
I know you guys are talking about the toon traits but what about the bridge officer ones? We all worked real hard to get those romulan bridge officers and now they have no passives...:eek:
Wow, boff passives are gone too?
*checks in-game*
...yep, sure enough, they're gone. So we can't use our traits because we're told our skills are invalid, but clicking the respec button does nothing, so we're stuck. And we don't even get to use boff traits either, because they're just completely gone.
It's a good thing the stuck-traits only happens on certain characters (for me, anyway), or I'd really see no alternative but to stop playing. (And no, that's not an "I'm leaving" threat; that's a simple statement of fact. If the game doesn't work, I can't play it.)
Decided to go through and do the breakdown per toon of the breakdown in traits...
Willard the Rat, Reman Scientist
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground - Singularity Specialist
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Rave, Joined Trill Scientist
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground -
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Mysk, Gorn Scientist
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground - Acute Senses, Aggressive, Bite, Covert, Lucky, Peak Health, Soldier, Stubborn, Sturdy, Sure Footed
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground - Field Researcher
Reputation Traits Space - No Access to Rep Traits/Invalid Skills
Reputation Traits Ground - No Access to Rep Traits/Invalid Skills
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Maal, Klingon Engineer
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground -
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Vegar, Orion Engineer
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground -
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Nivuh, Ferasan Tactical
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground -
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Venit, Lethean Tactical
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground - Acute Senses, Aggressive, Covert, Creative, Mental Discipline, Peak Health, Resilient, Stubborn, Sturdy, Sure Footed, Telekinetic
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground - Situational Awareness
Reputation Traits Space - No Access to Rep Traits/Invalid Skills
Reputation Traits Ground - No Access to Rep Traits/Invalid Skills
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Kopor, Nausicaan Tactical
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground -
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
I get the feeling they hope this is not widespread so they will do nothing what a disaster
It seems fairly widespread, there are two bug threads and I have seen people talking about it on First City every time I have been there since the patch went live yesterday.
It seems fairly widespread, there are two bug threads and I have seen people talking about it on First City every time I have been there since the patch went live yesterday.
Heh, there are actually more than two threads on it in the Gameplay Bug Reports forums alone....
For me, 4 of 9 characters are affected by s9 trait bugs:
Fed Reman sci: stuck with Resilient
Fed Ferengi engie: stuck with Lobes
KDF Orion tac (male): lost Orion strength, somehow Seduce is available on ground abilities list
KDF Gorn engie: skills invalid bug, many traits missing (ie Elusive) - looks like all traits unlocked by leveling are just gone, and I'm limited to list of 8 traits including one from lockbox, also cannot gain new traits (Living Hull did not appear on the list after finishing/turning in FE).
May 2013, automatic permanent ban for mentioning gold-seller sites pwebranflakes: this system is currently in place and working the way it should. moradum: I got banned for saying "I started my day with cutting off 3 MM off of the bottom of my cabinet"
Found solution to broken resilient trait on reman playing on tribble. You need to respec your char. And i refuse to waste respec that you pay real money to fix bug that cryptic should fix.
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ROFL, that explains why the crit monsters seem to have been tamed today. I'll enjoy these couple of bug filled days.
Devs, thanks for giving us a couple of accidental days of pre LoR power creep days. It feels good.
Many of my other toons have traits that are missing. All my lib borg captains lost their efficient traits. My kdf orion tac is missing species traits and has a trait that's not on my list to unslot. I actually have a couple of characters can't unslot locked traits. My ferengi eng has the lobes trait taking up a slot and I thought it was attached to the species traits and not take up one of the eight. I have 19 characters so I know I need to look at them more closely. I know some of them have traits that are missing.
However, "Seduce" does NOT appear to be available as a trait option anywhere, and the female Orion innate ground traits aren't shown when clicking on Orion species name up top of trait page.
ie these things
edit: That's not counting the 20 missing Rep Traits because of the Invalid Skills bug. /facepalm
Only have 6 traits in the "personal traits" list...Accurate, Conservation of Energy, Peak Health, Stubborn, Sturdy, and Warp Theorist. I believe these are the traits I had picked previous to this new trait "reset".
Nothing else in the list to select.
Not even "common" ones like: Lucky or Aggressive...missing career specific ones: Medical Vanguard, Field Researcher, Photonic Capacitor (?). In other words, the Ferengi only has access to traits I had active before....everything else is missing.
(note: haven't done rep...so nothing to check there)
After reading the other posts in this thread, I checked the "Skill Tree" tab.....the Ferengi, also, has the "Skills Invalid" notice...and clicking the "Respec" button only closes the window.
I have checked the 5 other characters I have on my account, they do not have a short trait list. Therefore, I did not cross check their lists with the Wiki page to see if any are actually "missing". And the other characters do not have "Skills Invalid" notice on their skill trees.
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I did some testing by creating new chars and looking at their space stats. Efficient Captain is still active for Liberated Borg Captains but it does not show in the Trait List.
I submitted a bug report (ticket ID #2,435,523).
To add too this: I just completed the new featured episode 'Surface Tension' on my Bajoran engineer and chose the ground trait: fluidic antigens as a reward. Well I'm not seeing the new species trait at all. I'm still only seeing the regular 8 species traits that I had slotted before season 9 launched. (Love the new episode BTW.
If I understand the race info right, this should be part of the "naturally given" traits.
This would explain why the trait doesn't appear in the trait list.
All other chars were without problems.
I think such a "clear all" button would be a great idea.
But I'm still a mere human."
Vice Admiral Chris Curtiss, Temporal Ambassador
QA at Cryptic is really abysmal. These errors showed up for me after, what, 5 seconds of 'testing'?!
The problem is wider than you think, all my friend list have this bug: all of them are experiencing the missing of the fleet technician/tactician/scientist trait and a lot more
I cannot use any of the new trait system functions other than the personal traits for it is telling me i have invalid skills? But my personal traits are all woorking fine for the time being, just non of the reputation or special crate traits; and just with my fed bajoran tact officer while the other two rom and kling working fine it seems.
I have no answers or advice, but starting over could be fun? (that was a joke) like you have to explain every detail or maybe Section 41 may have questions for you in some dark reassess of a rented holosweet from a unscrupulous Ferenginard.
Last time at season 8 update there seemed to be some issues with game play graphics whys i assume that seemed to be happening this time also that may be taking priority over are lowly trait issue. Which those issues with game play seemed to be work through pretty fast, plus maybe higher server traffic, maybe stuff anyway
Cheers
What ****ing fail.
This is really frustrating.
http://imgur.com/kkXVmzO All traits deactived, except the Covert one which I cannot remove.
Wow, boff passives are gone too?
*checks in-game*
...yep, sure enough, they're gone. So we can't use our traits because we're told our skills are invalid, but clicking the respec button does nothing, so we're stuck. And we don't even get to use boff traits either, because they're just completely gone.
It's a good thing the stuck-traits only happens on certain characters (for me, anyway), or I'd really see no alternative but to stop playing. (And no, that's not an "I'm leaving" threat; that's a simple statement of fact. If the game doesn't work, I can't play it.)
Willard the Rat, Reman Scientist
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground - Singularity Specialist
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Rave, Joined Trill Scientist
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground -
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Mysk, Gorn Scientist
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground - Acute Senses, Aggressive, Bite, Covert, Lucky, Peak Health, Soldier, Stubborn, Sturdy, Sure Footed
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground - Field Researcher
Reputation Traits Space - No Access to Rep Traits/Invalid Skills
Reputation Traits Ground - No Access to Rep Traits/Invalid Skills
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Maal, Klingon Engineer
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground -
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Vegar, Orion Engineer
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground -
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Nivuh, Ferasan Tactical
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground -
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Venit, Lethean Tactical
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground - Acute Senses, Aggressive, Covert, Creative, Mental Discipline, Peak Health, Resilient, Stubborn, Sturdy, Sure Footed, Telekinetic
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground - Situational Awareness
Reputation Traits Space - No Access to Rep Traits/Invalid Skills
Reputation Traits Ground - No Access to Rep Traits/Invalid Skills
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
Kopor, Nausicaan Tactical
Personal Traits Space -
Personal Traits Ground -
Career Traits Space -
Career Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Space -
Reputation Traits Ground -
Reputation Traits Active -
Traits (Other) -
It seems fairly widespread, there are two bug threads and I have seen people talking about it on First City every time I have been there since the patch went live yesterday.
Heh, there are actually more than two threads on it in the Gameplay Bug Reports forums alone....
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1089041
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1090171
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1092061
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1089891
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1089001
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1092421
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1092171
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1091851
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1091891
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1089731
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1090311
...that only going 4 pages back.
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Fed Reman sci: stuck with Resilient
Fed Ferengi engie: stuck with Lobes
KDF Orion tac (male): lost Orion strength, somehow Seduce is available on ground abilities list
KDF Gorn engie: skills invalid bug, many traits missing (ie Elusive) - looks like all traits unlocked by leveling are just gone, and I'm limited to list of 8 traits including one from lockbox, also cannot gain new traits (Living Hull did not appear on the list after finishing/turning in FE).
pwebranflakes: this system is currently in place and working the way it should.
moradum: I got banned for saying "I started my day with cutting off 3 MM off of the bottom of my cabinet"