We also need a single-nacelle ship already. No matter what you think of the Alternate Reality story, the Kelvin happened before the timeline divergence and is still canon. I know, I know, CBS can't get the rights to JJ trek, but between the avenger and vata and the tal shiar narada ships, I'm sure we could get a n approximate "close enough" ship type.
The Starfleet ship I always wanted in STO? The most iconic, aweworthy, breathtaking, beautiful piece of engineering Starfleet has ever made in my opinion?
Well, luckily I already have her in game - they call it the Exploration Cruiser around here.
It's not particular ship, but a Bridge officer layout.
While piloting my JHDC back in September, I started fantasizing about a ship that was "well balanced". I spent the rest of 2013 regretting how my JHDC only had one universal slot when compared to the other lobi ships or zen ships that had two.
I wanted a ship that would allow me to have a hangar (I can't resist carriers ), 4 fore/ 4 aft weapons, +5 to all levels, at least 3 of each console (Engineering, Science and Tactical) and a Lt.Commander Science so that I can use that Gravity Well (I'm addicted to that move).
After three consecutive weeks talking to my former fleet mates about it, one of them got an extra one and gave it to me. That's a real friend right their
Anyway...
That ship is everything I wanted. But it's so blan. It does everything well but nothing exceptional. It's so "middle of the road". Theirs something missing that I can't put my finger on. It's not the bad a$$ monster that the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier is. It's not the type of ship that's intimidating like the Scimitar. It doesn't help because it's not a ship that I've seen in any Star Trek episode. SO I'm not "motivated" to pilot it often. I do play with it weekly, but it's like I have to force myself. Which is strange because it's BOFF layout is what I wanted.
Well in closing, the ship I want is,...the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier with a universal Lt.Commander slot (so that I can put a Science officer and go Gravity Well crazy).
One day Cryptic will be free from their Perfect World overlord. Until that day comes, they will continue to pamper the whales of this game, and ignore everyone that isn't a whale.
devs have already confirmed they're working on the dauntless, which is the main ship i want to see ingame. (its pretty okay? i know its stats would suck as a speedboat.)
however i havent seen many people comment on the lack of the norway class. i dont know where it first came from, (i think it was in the show briefly) but it seems like such an underdog ship, and makes me like it. http://www.ditl.org/Images/N/NorGenral1.jpg
it also has that iconic yellow/rusted look to it. it's hull always looked different from other federation ships, which makes me like it more as it stands out as unique.
I know it will never happen since they are FASA ships, but I would love to see updated versions of the:Andor, Northampton, Wilkerson, Chandley and Remora classes in the game. I played with those all the time in Starfleet Command: Orion Pirates.
"The worm has turned and it is now packing an Uzi, Mary." - Will Randall
Then forget the description.
Why do people trust stats some random dude throws on the internet without sources anyway?
And on top of that why do they never bother to read the colour key for DITL.ORG which clearly states that all he does is fanfiction that sometimes even contradicts canon?;)
"White Text : Anything in white is my own invention. Sometimes this is just extrapolation - I guesstimated that the Nebula class has eight phaser arrays compared to the Galaxy classes twelve, for example, because the Nebula class is slightly smaller so probably slightly less powerful. But here and there I have gone into invention meltdown, inventing entire histories for ships about which we know little. Now and again I have even made up new backgrounds to known events just to make them sound a bit more dramatic. So be warned, if it's in white you can take it or leave it!"
note that practically everything written on the Norway is white and that the strength index stuff he writes up along with 90% of the history for all those ships is too.
Then forget the description.
Why do people trust stats some random dude throws on the internet without sources anyway?
And on top of that why do they never bother to read the colour key for DITL.ORG which clearly states that all he does is fanfiction that sometimes even contradicts canon?;)
"White Text : Anything in white is my own invention. Sometimes this is just extrapolation - I guesstimated that the Nebula class has eight phaser arrays compared to the Galaxy classes twelve, for example, because the Nebula class is slightly smaller so probably slightly less powerful. But here and there I have gone into invention meltdown, inventing entire histories for ships about which we know little. Now and again I have even made up new backgrounds to known events just to make them sound a bit more dramatic. So be warned, if it's in white you can take it or leave it!"
note that practically everything written on the Norway is white and that the strength index stuff he writes up along with 90% of the history for all those ships is too.
true, but it's a really, really good extrapolation. for a ship with so little known as the norway, he did a good job guessing about it, and indeed from all the games i've seen it featured in (star trek legacy mods, star trek armada mods, mostly alot of mods...) this ship is not very powerful, and is at best a torpedo boat/escort. maybe with similar stats to a steamrunner, with a bit more science. imagine an escort with very little focus on tactical? it'd be weird....
true, but it's a really, really good extrapolation. for a ship with so little known as the norway, he did a good job guessing about it, and indeed from all the games i've seen it featured in (star trek legacy mods, star trek armada mods, mostly alot of mods...) this ship is not very powerful, and is at best a torpedo boat/escort. maybe with similar stats to a steamrunner, with a bit more science. imagine an escort with very little focus on tactical? it'd be weird....
So you use fan-fiction (which is what mods are) as "confirmation" what another piece of fanfiction claims.
Have you ever considered that some of the folks out there probably used DITL as a starting point?
I've been on a while bunch of modders pages and reading and ther forums, in particluer for "Birth of the Federation" and there are folks around there who were floored to realize this guy didn't have some magic information pipeline into the Trek universe and his stats were fanfiction and not indisputable "facts". Sorry if this sounds over the top but I'm not kidding.
So probably we're dealing with circular logic here: fanfiction that is based on fanfiction is used to confirm that the fanfiction it's based on is true.:)
EDIT: what I mean is don't let what others write in regard to this ship allow your own imagination to be railroaded or curtailed.
captainpirko you do raise a good point though:
what to do with this ship? One major gripe I personally have right now with the Dyson ships is that they lack cusomization. WHat I'd like to see are ships similar to the Dyson Science Destroyers but without the fancy transformation stuff but with faction-specific looks.
The Norway could be such a ship.:)
The ship we should have got from ARC rather than a costume.
Steam users got the Steamrunner Class, so ARC should have given us the last of the DS9 / FC era ships- The Norway Class (excluding the two Intrepid kitbashes).
Console: [Console - Universal - ARC Reactor]
Applies all science based effects active on targeted enemy to all others in a 15Km range.
Cooldown: 3 mins
(It's the only thing I could think of with ARC in it's name).
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
Expanded universe, gorgeous lines. Not the canon saucer/engineering hull config, but not too organically curved to stray far from. Reminds me somewhat of a compressed Intrepid.
Considered starting a "please seriously consider" thread here in the shipyards, but I'll leave it here for now.
Expanded universe, gorgeous lines. Not the canon saucer/engineering hull config, but not too organically curved to stray far from. Reminds me somewhat of a compressed Intrepid.
Considered starting a "please seriously consider" thread here in the shipyards, but I'll leave it here for now.
Probably the main reason nobody mentioned it is because Cryptic can't even use ships produced by other companies and this is a fan-design which means it's even more totally impossible.
Probably the main reason nobody mentioned it is because Cryptic can't even use ships produced by other companies and this is a fan-design which means it's even more totally impossible.
I presumed the very fact that it is a privately created mesh (and not IP of a large production house) would make it more accessible. Though admittedly I have zero insight into how Cryptic goes about acquiring such, or if it would even be on the table for consideration.
Meh... Its a "dream" thread. Would still like to see it in motion someday.
New Orleans Escort
with prototype phaser cannon universal console
does 3x the damage of Quad Phaser Cannons with a 30% failure rate
(those secondary nacelles are either cannons, sensor palettes or atmospheric engines).
Fleet Gal-X
Fix the Gal-X by giving it a fleet version
Tac Commander Bridge officer
Better Turn Rate
Double the Damage of the Spinal Lance and half its cool down
Give it the ability to saucer separate and the spinal lance modifies to a scatter volley weapon
make the spinal lance a universal console with 6 variants for each energy type
Allow it to take Celestial, Envoy, Monarch parts
Jupiter Dreadnought
Redesign the variants so it doesn't look so derpy.
Z-Store 3 pack
Jupiter Class (engineering)
Work Bees Universal Console
5 Engineering Consoles
Higher Hull
Zeus Class (tactical)
5 Tactical Consoles
Advanced RCS Accelerator Universal Console
10 second turn boost with a 1 minute cooldown
Ganymede Class (science carrier)
Lower Hull Strength
5 Science Consoles
All Variants come with
a Dual Anti-proton Lance
Typhoon Class
Make it the Fleet Retrofit for the Assault Cruiser
Corbonite Reflector Universal Console
Honestly, I want the Invincible Class Fleet Carrier-Heavy Battleship Hybrid, though this might be added for the Fleet Admiral Tier 6 ships (If so I BLOODY CALLED IT!)(link if you think how I setuped it's base stats are bad, and if you want to know what it looks like: http://memory-gamma.wikia.com/wiki/Invincible_class)
Minimum Rank: Fleet Admiral (The Admiral-Fleet Admiral ranks and stuff for the ranks was originally due this month, so it could be coming soon.)
Hull Strength:50,000
BOFF Stations: Commander Tactical, Commander Science, Lt Commander Engineer, Lt Commander Tactical, Lt Commander Science
Consoles: 5 Tac, 5 Sci, 4 Eng
Turn Rate: 16 (It says on the page it has the maneuvering of a Steamruner Light Cruiser, or to put it simple, the ingame Blockade Runner Escort turn rate+impulse modifier)
Shield Modifer:2.0
Impulse Modifier: 0.21
Weapons: 6 front, 4 aft, can equip Cannons, can equip more then 1 Quad Cannon
Hanger: 4 Hangar slots
Console-Universal- Companion Ships
Takes 10 seconds to charge
Deploys 4 Defiant Class Escorts equipped with 2 Dual Phaser Cannons, 1 Dual Phaser Beam Banks, 1 Quantum Torpedo, 3 Phaser Turrents
Ability- Escort deployment
takes 10 seconds to charge
Deploys 1 Prometheus Class Escort(battleship version), 1 Akira Class Escort, 1 Intepid Class Science Vessel, 2 Stemrunner Class Escort, 2 Saber Class Escort
I kno this will probly gey spam like "THIS IS OVER THE TOP OP!", but I don't care, this is just what I thought would be the number 1 ship I want in STO, also an attempt to translate it's in-cannon abilities and support of the Invincible Class Flee Carrier-Heavy Battleship Hybrid, so you can try to see if you can do better if you like the ship. (not my build, the actuall ship, go to the link to see it)
Honestly, I want the Invincible Class Fleet Carrier-Heavy Battleship Hybrid, though this might be added for the Fleet Admiral Tier 6 ships (If so I BLOODY CALLED IT!)(link if you think how I setuped it's base stats are bad, and if you want to know what it looks like: http://memory-gamma.wikia.com/wiki/Invincible_class)
Minimum Rank: Fleet Admiral (The Admiral-Fleet Admiral ranks and stuff for the ranks was originally due this month, so it could be coming soon.)
Hull Strength:50,000
BOFF Stations: Commander Tactical, Commander Science, Lt Commander Engineer, Lt Commander Tactical, Lt Commander Science
Consoles: 5 Tac, 5 Sci, 4 Eng
Turn Rate: 16 (It says on the page it has the maneuvering of a Steamruner Light Cruiser, or to put it simple, the ingame Blockade Runner Escort turn rate+impulse modifier)
Shield Modifer:2.0
Impulse Modifier: 0.21
Weapons: 6 front, 4 aft, can equip Cannons, can equip more then 1 Quad Cannon
Hanger: 4 Hangar slots
Console-Universal- Companion Ships
Takes 10 seconds to charge
Deploys 4 Defiant Class Escorts equipped with 2 Dual Phaser Cannons, 1 Dual Phaser Beam Banks, 1 Quantum Torpedo, 3 Phaser Turrents
Ability- Escort deployment
takes 10 seconds to charge
Deploys 1 Prometheus Class Escort(battleship version), 1 Akira Class Escort, 1 Intepid Class Science Vessel, 2 Stemrunner Class Escort, 2 Saber Class Escort
I kno this will probly gey spam like "THIS IS OVER THE TOP OP!", but I don't care, this is just what I thought would be the number 1 ship I want in STO, also an attempt to translate it's in-cannon abilities and support of the Invincible Class Flee Carrier-Heavy Battleship Hybrid, so you can try to see if you can do better if you like the ship. (not my build, the actuall ship, go to the link to see it)
Umm... that appears to be an Akira, sitting on an Excelsior hull, with a random assortment of nacelles pasted onto it...
Umm... that appears to be an Akira, sitting on an Excelsior hull, with a random assortment of nacelles pasted onto it...
It's like the melenium falcon from star wars, it doesn't look as bad TRIBBLE as other ships, but IT IS AWSOME, read what it has, IT CARRIES FOUR FREAKING DIFIANTS FOR GOD SAKE! AND HAS CANNONS, AND 4 "wings" CAN BE STORED IN THERE!
Comments
I suppose I thought the Merian class was kinda interesting looking and might make some Miranda fans somewhat happy.
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Merian_class
I know it's not a ship but a Venture class skin for the Nebula would be cool.
Other single nacelle ships include:
The Freedom class (TNG)
The Saladin Class (TOS: TWOK)
The identical, albeit somewhat weaker, obvious example of a low tier version of the Saladin, the Hermes class
Well, luckily I already have her in game - they call it the Exploration Cruiser around here.
*Hugs his Galaxy.*
While piloting my JHDC back in September, I started fantasizing about a ship that was "well balanced". I spent the rest of 2013 regretting how my JHDC only had one universal slot when compared to the other lobi ships or zen ships that had two.
I wanted a ship that would allow me to have a hangar (I can't resist carriers
Then Cryptic released the....
Voth Bastion Flight-Deck Cruiser
After three consecutive weeks talking to my former fleet mates about it, one of them got an extra one and gave it to me. That's a real friend right their
Anyway...
That ship is everything I wanted. But it's so blan. It does everything well but nothing exceptional. It's so "middle of the road". Theirs something missing that I can't put my finger on. It's not the bad a$$ monster that the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier is. It's not the type of ship that's intimidating like the Scimitar. It doesn't help because it's not a ship that I've seen in any Star Trek episode. SO I'm not "motivated" to pilot it often. I do play with it weekly, but it's like I have to force myself. Which is strange because it's BOFF layout is what I wanted.
Well in closing, the ship I want is,...the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier with a universal Lt.Commander slot (so that I can put a Science officer and go Gravity Well crazy).
however i havent seen many people comment on the lack of the norway class. i dont know where it first came from, (i think it was in the show briefly) but it seems like such an underdog ship, and makes me like it. http://www.ditl.org/Images/N/NorGenral1.jpg
it also has that iconic yellow/rusted look to it. it's hull always looked different from other federation ships, which makes me like it more as it stands out as unique.
unfortunately, from what i've seen of the norway it seems like a really weak ship, in both weapons and defense. most likely some type of science ship. the description on daystom institute seems to support this with the ship's history. http://www.ditl.org/ship-page.php?ClassID=fednorway&ListID=Ships&ListOption=fed
Then forget the description.
Why do people trust stats some random dude throws on the internet without sources anyway?
And on top of that why do they never bother to read the colour key for DITL.ORG which clearly states that all he does is fanfiction that sometimes even contradicts canon?;)
"White Text : Anything in white is my own invention. Sometimes this is just extrapolation - I guesstimated that the Nebula class has eight phaser arrays compared to the Galaxy classes twelve, for example, because the Nebula class is slightly smaller so probably slightly less powerful. But here and there I have gone into invention meltdown, inventing entire histories for ships about which we know little. Now and again I have even made up new backgrounds to known events just to make them sound a bit more dramatic. So be warned, if it's in white you can take it or leave it!"
note that practically everything written on the Norway is white and that the strength index stuff he writes up along with 90% of the history for all those ships is too.
true, but it's a really, really good extrapolation. for a ship with so little known as the norway, he did a good job guessing about it, and indeed from all the games i've seen it featured in (star trek legacy mods, star trek armada mods, mostly alot of mods...) this ship is not very powerful, and is at best a torpedo boat/escort. maybe with similar stats to a steamrunner, with a bit more science. imagine an escort with very little focus on tactical? it'd be weird....
So you use fan-fiction (which is what mods are) as "confirmation" what another piece of fanfiction claims.
Have you ever considered that some of the folks out there probably used DITL as a starting point?
I've been on a while bunch of modders pages and reading and ther forums, in particluer for "Birth of the Federation" and there are folks around there who were floored to realize this guy didn't have some magic information pipeline into the Trek universe and his stats were fanfiction and not indisputable "facts". Sorry if this sounds over the top but I'm not kidding.
So probably we're dealing with circular logic here: fanfiction that is based on fanfiction is used to confirm that the fanfiction it's based on is true.:)
EDIT: what I mean is don't let what others write in regard to this ship allow your own imagination to be railroaded or curtailed.
what to do with this ship? One major gripe I personally have right now with the Dyson ships is that they lack cusomization. WHat I'd like to see are ships similar to the Dyson Science Destroyers but without the fancy transformation stuff but with faction-specific looks.
The Norway could be such a ship.:)
I want it!!
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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http://www.sttff.net/ships/magellan.html
Expanded universe, gorgeous lines. Not the canon saucer/engineering hull config, but not too organically curved to stray far from. Reminds me somewhat of a compressed Intrepid.
Considered starting a "please seriously consider" thread here in the shipyards, but I'll leave it here for now.
Probably the main reason nobody mentioned it is because Cryptic can't even use ships produced by other companies and this is a fan-design which means it's even more totally impossible.
I presumed the very fact that it is a privately created mesh (and not IP of a large production house) would make it more accessible. Though admittedly I have zero insight into how Cryptic goes about acquiring such, or if it would even be on the table for consideration.
Meh... Its a "dream" thread. Would still like to see it in motion someday.
AMEN! .... I want that ship bad ... even something more modern with that style would be great.
U.S.S. Maelstrom, NCC-71417 (Constitution III-class/flagship) --- Fleet Admiral Hauk' --|-- Dahar Master Hauk --- I.K.S. qu'In 'an bortaS (D7-class / flagship)
with prototype phaser cannon universal console
does 3x the damage of Quad Phaser Cannons with a 30% failure rate
(those secondary nacelles are either cannons, sensor palettes or atmospheric engines).
Fleet Gal-X
Fix the Gal-X by giving it a fleet version
Tac Commander Bridge officer
Better Turn Rate
Double the Damage of the Spinal Lance and half its cool down
Give it the ability to saucer separate and the spinal lance modifies to a scatter volley weapon
make the spinal lance a universal console with 6 variants for each energy type
Allow it to take Celestial, Envoy, Monarch parts
Jupiter Dreadnought
Redesign the variants so it doesn't look so derpy.
Z-Store 3 pack
Jupiter Class (engineering)
Work Bees Universal Console
5 Engineering Consoles
Higher Hull
Zeus Class (tactical)
5 Tactical Consoles
Advanced RCS Accelerator Universal Console
10 second turn boost with a 1 minute cooldown
Ganymede Class (science carrier)
Lower Hull Strength
5 Science Consoles
All Variants come with
a Dual Anti-proton Lance
Typhoon Class
Make it the Fleet Retrofit for the Assault Cruiser
Corbonite Reflector Universal Console
Catian Escort
Tellarite Cruiser
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Tellarite_cruiser
Vulcan Cruiser
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Suurok_class
Type 11 Shuttle
Janeway's Future Shuttle
The Jellyfish (its prime universe and we already have 2 Narada clones)
Dauntless Class
Minimum Rank: Vice Admiral
Hull Strength: 37000
BOFF Stations: Commander Science, Lieutenant Commander Engineering, Lieutenant Universal, Ensign Tactical, Lieutenant Universal
Consoles: 4 Sci, 4 Eng, 2 Tac
Turn Rate: 13
Shield Modifier: 1.1
Impulse Modifier: 0.19
Console - Universal - Subspace Arcwave
- Takes 8 seconds to charge
- 9,535 Kinetic Damage to enemies within 6 KM within 45 degrees of the front (boosted by Subspace Decompiler)
- 10% Chance to create a level I Gravity Well
- To self: -30 Auxiliary power for 10 seconds
- To self: 90 sec recharge
Copied from my other post..
The Wambundu class. I want.
Minimum Rank: Fleet Admiral (The Admiral-Fleet Admiral ranks and stuff for the ranks was originally due this month, so it could be coming soon.)
Hull Strength:50,000
BOFF Stations: Commander Tactical, Commander Science, Lt Commander Engineer, Lt Commander Tactical, Lt Commander Science
Consoles: 5 Tac, 5 Sci, 4 Eng
Turn Rate: 16 (It says on the page it has the maneuvering of a Steamruner Light Cruiser, or to put it simple, the ingame Blockade Runner Escort turn rate+impulse modifier)
Shield Modifer:2.0
Impulse Modifier: 0.21
Weapons: 6 front, 4 aft, can equip Cannons, can equip more then 1 Quad Cannon
Hanger: 4 Hangar slots
Console-Universal- Companion Ships
Takes 10 seconds to charge
Deploys 4 Defiant Class Escorts equipped with 2 Dual Phaser Cannons, 1 Dual Phaser Beam Banks, 1 Quantum Torpedo, 3 Phaser Turrents
Ability- Escort deployment
takes 10 seconds to charge
Deploys 1 Prometheus Class Escort(battleship version), 1 Akira Class Escort, 1 Intepid Class Science Vessel, 2 Stemrunner Class Escort, 2 Saber Class Escort
I kno this will probly gey spam like "THIS IS OVER THE TOP OP!", but I don't care, this is just what I thought would be the number 1 ship I want in STO, also an attempt to translate it's in-cannon abilities and support of the Invincible Class Flee Carrier-Heavy Battleship Hybrid, so you can try to see if you can do better if you like the ship. (not my build, the actuall ship, go to the link to see it)
Umm... that appears to be an Akira, sitting on an Excelsior hull, with a random assortment of nacelles pasted onto it...
The Springfield class looks like ot could make a cool Science/Cruiser combo
Well what do you expect? It's Memory GAMMA, which means fanfic nightmare.;)
Fed destroyer with phaser lance.
Devs: please do ;-)
http://home.comcast.net/~ststcsolda/federation/northampton/northampton.html
Changes over Prime Universe Exploration Cruiser:
Lt. Cmdr. Engineering Boff --> Lt. Cmdr. Tactical Boff
Ensign Engineering Boff --> Ensign Science Boff
Lt. Tactical Boff --> Lt. Engineering Boff
Consoles: 3 3 3
KDF: K'vort
Rom: Narada
Tal'Shiar/Reman Resistance/Romulan Nemesis uniform, pls.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/13262502435_5604548f2c_o.png
Before she was upgraded at 'The Vault', the Narada was a mining vessel.
Wait - a Mining Vessel is a great idea. Exchange, banking etc, plus a bonus to dilithium generation and/or particle collection