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The Starfleet ship you always wanted in STO?

yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
edited September 2014 in The Art of Star Trek Online
What i am missing in STO is a new kind of Starfleet ship breed, away from STOs stationary and too passive (mostly) cruisers and away from the nimble annoying Escorts.
No need to be able to equip DHCs or hangar pets, just one Lt.Cmdr (or Cmdr) tactical among with a high survivability BOFF layout (maybe something like the Elachi Monbosh for example) and more than 3 tactical consoles.
It doesn't need to have a super high turn rate, something between 10 an 14 would be sufficient for me.
(i hate ships that tend to oversteer all the time.)
A cool gimmick would be to give it something similar like the Romulan singularity core abilities, just for its Phaser weapons.


The ship type i wish i could have would be more like a Cruiser/Escort hybrid like Cryptic has announced more than a year ago*, but so far no Starfleet ship like that (besides the 300 $ chimera) on the horizon.
*well, i belive they said there where more coming.

It should continue the dsign like of the intrepid/starcruiser, especially the Avenger Star Cruiser design line. I think it's a shame Cryptic gave up on creating more futuritic looking starfleet ships like that, and making that fat Odyssey instead.
And please no oversized nacelles like the Excelsior/Sovereign/Odyssey design line.
(i just like flowing lines and wide ships, but i hate the "fat" look of the Odyssey and Excelsior for example. :) )



Whats your "dream" Starfleet ship for STO?
No matter if it's canon, just something reasonable you have made up.
But please no Carrier/Escorts with 7 DHCs. :)
"...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

A tale of two Picards
(also applies to Star Trek in general)
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    orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    ALWAYS? Yikes... a Soyuz-class and a Saratoga style Miranda-class variant.

    Oh and a Constellation-class.
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    mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    yreodred wrote: »
    It should continue the dsign like of the intrepid/starcruiser, especially the Avenger Star Cruiser design line. I think it's a shame Cryptic gave up on creating more futuritic looking starfleet ships like that, and making that fat Odyssey instead.
    And please no oversized nacelles like the Excelsior/Sovereign/Odyssey design line.
    (i just like flowing lines and wide ships, but i hate the "fat" look of the Odyssey and Excelsior for example. :) )

    ...How is the Excelsior "fat" but the Star Cruiser isn't?
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    cryptkeeper0cryptkeeper0 Member Posts: 989 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    constellation class retrofit with a Picard Maneuver

    Fleet cruiser and a retrofit cruiser (without the enterprise A parts)

    Andorian battle cruiser

    Tellerite support flight deck cruiser ?

    catian cruiser or destroyer ?

    Light cruiser 2409 teir 4 and 5 ship
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    yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    ...How is the Excelsior "fat" but the Star Cruiser isn't?
    that's completely subjective, of course. :)
    The Excelsiors extreme bulky engineering hull doesn't make the ship look fast or especially elegant looking in my eyes.
    The Star Cruisers almost completely consists of flowing shapes and they look very sturdy, and overall it isn't especially "fat" looking, in my opinion. I think it is the contrast of the parts of which a ship is build of make the difference.
    For example the Excelsiors relative thin saucer looks odd (IMO) together with the enormously bulky neck and engineering hull. On the other hand the thin Pylons that hold the immense Nacelles in place aren't looking especially sturdy too.
    So in my opinion the contrast of the thin and bulky parts of the excelsior make the bulky parts look even more "fat" than they would do on a much more massive ship.
    The Odyssey on the other hand consists almost completely of massive and bulky ship parts, making the ship almost look clumsy while resembling the general shape of the Excelsior (which i hate to the guts). That's why i would never buy the Odyssey, no matter how good it where.


    As i said that's just my opinion, but i never liked the Excelsior very much TBH.


    The ship i had in mind would in the OP would look more like the Achilles Class from Dominion Wars.
    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
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    hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    New Orleans class.
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    macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited September 2013
    constellation class retrofit with a Picard Maneuver

    Fleet cruiser and a retrofit cruiser (without the enterprise A parts)

    Andorian battle cruiser

    Tellerite support flight deck cruiser ?

    catian cruiser or destroyer ?

    Light cruiser 2409 teir 4 and 5 ship

    Nice one. Picard maneuver console would be great.
    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

    - Judge Aaron Satie
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    ltdata96ltdata96 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    You describe the Gal-X as i would like it to be (similar to the Scimitar -> the Scim is the Ship the Gal-X should be, tac oriented dps beast cruiser with not-that-awful turn rate)... My dreams on new Fed ships ... Also see signature pic :)
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    orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    constellation class retrofit with a Picard Maneuver
    I'd like this. Classify it as a Heavy Cruiser too so the Fleet Heavy Cruiser could wear the Constellation skin and I'd be set.
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    dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The U.S.S. Blitzkrieg
    Class: Science vessel
    Specialty: Torpedos
    3 fore 2 fleet advanced plasmas, rom hyper torpedo
    4 aft KCB, 3 polaron disruptors

    2 special consoles
    1st console: Tachyon torpedo
    Drains 1,000 shield points from point of impact facing
    15 second cd
    2nd console: Multiphasic enhancements
    Your torpedos gain 10% additional bleedthrough
    2p bonus: 10% more damage to torpedos, 5% additional bleedthrough for all weapons

    Stats:

    Hull 27500
    Impulse modifier cruiser speed
    Turn rate 20
    Shield modifier 1.15
    4 tactical
    5 science
    1 engineer

    Commander science HE1, HE2, GW1, GW3
    Lieutenant commander tactical HY1, AP;B1, AP;B2
    Lieutenant tactical HY1, CS1
    Lieutenant tactical TT1, CS1
    Ensign tactical TT1

    The U.S.S Blitzkrieg is a revolutionary science vessel that harnesses transdeminsional particles and infuses them into her projectiles bypassing some shield protection

    I wish for the above...it is borderline unfair that all torpedo captains need to use the t'varo for optimum damage
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

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    khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I always wanted a Gal-X that worked in game.


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    pwstolemynamepwstolemyname Member Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    A fleet exploration cruiser with:

    39,600 hull
    1.2 shield modifier
    1,500 crew
    3 device slots
    4 tactical consoles
    3 science consoles
    3 engineering consoles.
    A turn rate of 10
    an impulse modifier of 15
    an inertia rating of 30.
    +10 to weapons power and +10 to auxilery power.

    Comander Enginear, Lt Comander tactical, Lt science, Lt Universal, En tactical.

    I don't expect to ever get it. But it would not be any more unbalanced then a Tor'kaht and it would make me very happy.
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    age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    It has already been asked for a better Const. class.
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    intrepid74656intrepid74656 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    dahminus wrote: »
    The U.S.S. Blitzkrieg
    Class: Science vessel
    Specialty: Torpedos
    3 fore 2 fleet advanced plasmas, rom hyper torpedo
    4 aft KCB, 3 polaron disruptors

    2 special consoles
    1st console: Tachyon torpedo
    Drains 1,000 shield points from point of impact facing
    15 second cd
    2nd console: Multiphasic enhancements
    Your torpedos gain 10% additional bleedthrough
    2p bonus: 10% more damage to torpedos, 5% additional bleedthrough for all weapons

    Stats:

    Hull 27500
    Impulse modifier cruiser speed
    Turn rate 20
    Shield modifier 1.15
    4 tactical
    5 science
    1 engineer

    Commander science HE1, HE2, GW1, GW3
    Lieutenant commander tactical HY1, AP;B1, AP;B2
    Lieutenant tactical HY1, CS1
    Lieutenant tactical TT1, CS1
    Ensign tactical TT1

    The U.S.S Blitzkrieg is a revolutionary science vessel that harnesses transdeminsional particles and infuses them into her projectiles bypassing some shield protection

    I wish for the above...it is borderline unfair that all torpedo captains need to use the t'varo for optimum damage

    How is this a science vessel? It's more like an escort with a cmdr. sci boff. And science vessels have 3 - 3 weapon and not 3 - 4.
    Besides, how do you plan to keep this thing alive?
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    yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    How is this a science vessel? It's more like an escort with a cmdr. sci boff. And science vessels have 3 - 3 weapon and not 3 - 4.
    Besides, how do you plan to keep this thing alive?

    Apart from that i would change its name, seriously.
    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
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    nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    hravik wrote: »
    New Orleans class.

    I'll second that...I've been patiently waiting for the New Orleans for a while. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it's coming anytime soon (if ever). The Romulans are the new cash cow for Cryptic now. Like the KDF we can just sit and wait for never. :rolleyes:
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    marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Well I would like to see tier 5 Intrepid,Nebula,Galaxy and Galaxy X getting a buff. Also a tier 5 C-Store Miranda Class I would love to see added.

    Light Cruiser Retrofit (Miranda Class)
    Tier: 5
    Type: Cruiser
    Hull: 37,000
    Shield Modifier: 1
    Weapons: 4 Forward 3 Aft (Can equip dual cannons.)
    Crew: 200
    Bridge Officers: Commander Engineer , Lt. Commander Tactical , Lt. Science , Lt. Engineer , Ensign Science
    Device Slots: 2
    Consoles: 3 Tactical 3 Engineering 3 Science
    Turn Rate: 11.4
    Impulse Modifier: 0.20
    Inertia rating: 50
    Bonus Power: +5 all power levels
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    jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited September 2013
    I would like a REAL Galaxy Class Cruiser/Battleship

    not what is currently labeled as a Galaxy
    Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
    Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
    Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng

    JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
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    trekkerchicktrekkerchick Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The Intrepid. I love that ship, It's special to me for many reasons. Most revolve around my beloved, whom I've been with for nearly six years now.

    In STO, though, I've been waiting for them to "finish" the ship since it was added. Missing most of its navigational lighting. Missing it's running lights entirely. Textures on the dorsal saucer are still warped from what I can only assume was hastily done UV mapping.
    It took over a year just for someone to finally add the pennants, fantail shuttle landing pattern and remove the mirrored air-lock on the back of the hull. Though, for some reason is still a solid red wall.
    I have nothing against Cptn Logan, but it certainly wasn't his best work....

    For years, every time there has been a moderate or major update, the first thing I run to look for are all of those. It's become like a ritual. And for years, my heart has sunk when I discover nothing has changed except a flurry of other ships added to the store or in boxes. Most of them alien, yet even they have human aerospace running lights flashing away for some reason...

    I'm hoping really hard that with this coming focus on "Voyager related" content, JamJamz will be able to set his craft upon the neglected Intrepid and finally make it shine like I've always hoped for.
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    jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited September 2013
    reyan01 wrote: »
    I don't know; as discussed in hundreds of posts over hundreds of pages (the 'what is your beef with the Galaxy' thread), it really only needs to be made viable.

    Well
    The collarmatter Arc anamation to work would be nice
    anti matter spread as part of the ship as in the show
    Deflector shot as part of the ship as seen in the show

    but yes I agree with you totally
    Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
    Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
    Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng

    JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
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    balissnerbalissner Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The uss kelvin should be added to the game, who agrees?
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    rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    balissner wrote: »
    The uss kelvin should be added to the game, who agrees?

    No.

    JJtrek is simply not available to STO.

    People really need to accept that and move on.
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    yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    A Starfleet ship with the stats/BOFF/Consolesof the Jem?Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier, just without the hangar and DHCs. In exchange for that, a console similar to the Ferengi Battle Module 3000 console.


    Appearance: like a bigger and smoother version of the Prometheus (+50% size) but with just one pair of nacelles. (selectable at the ship Tailor)
    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
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    blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    My first choice a Constellation class, my second a freedom class.
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The K'Vort, a big 'ol BOP.

    Oh, STARFLEET... In that case, a T5 Constitution-Refit from the TOS/TMP movies.
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    meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I've always wanted the U.S.S. Dauntless, a hyper-modern (ruse) ship from Voyager ("Hope and Fear"). I especially loved his ultra-slick looking bridge: I'd pay good money for that alone (would go nicely on my Vesta).
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    litchy74litchy74 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    edited September 2013
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    yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    litchy74 wrote: »
    http://www.suricatafx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/main_concept_sto_excalibur1.jpg

    Great looking ship

    ...

    http://www.suricatafx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/main_concept_sto_excaliburps1.jpg

    after all it was set a century after what we new, yeah 150 year old ship in service.....

    Put a JDAM on a Bi-plane, its a refit !!!
    I can understand why some people don't like this design.
    BUT i think the front and top views look really great, but side view looks just horrible.

    Personally i wouldn't mind if we would get that ship, maybe like some kind as Galaxy Class type II. (other GCS ship parts still useable)

    Some views look awesome like the picture at the bottom, i would love to get this ship TBH.
    I cold imagine the engineering section being not just the tiny engineering hull but the whole neck, allowing a HUGE warp Core.
    It's a radical new interpretation of the Ambassador/Galaxy design line, maybe too radical for some people.

    Cryptic could make it the Starfleet equivalent to the Elachi Moonbosh Battleship, since both ships aren't especially beautyful (and Cryptic seems to belive that only ugly or non Starfleet ships deserve a aweome BOFF/console Layout) i think this would be great alternative.

    I definitely would love to have this ship, especially with the specs of the Elachi Moonbosh Battleship.
    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
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    xepthrixepthri Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I recall playing Starfleet Command, the first game, when I was much younger... STO is like experiencing childhood again.. heh.
    Having said that, I would really like to see some ships from that game here.

    Like these two
    http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060816004848/startrek/images/3/3d/USS_Akula.jpg

    http://images.wikia.com/startrek/images/d/d7/Okinawa_frigate.jpg

    Granted, they are set in TOS era so.. they'd be very antiquated in 2409, unless a new retrofit design of then is made.
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    jadensecurajadensecura Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    All I've ever really wanted was an Intrepid class with working abilities. The main reason I wanted to play STO was to play with an Intrepid, and that's why my first toon was a sci. If only sci ships were worth flying....
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