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starschildren1
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Ok so as alot of you may know the issues with the whole Cloaking process. A vast majority of us including myself are pretty upset with Romulans and Klingons Cloaking at will in the middle of a fight. Let alone literaly 3 seconds after they just decloaked....
There needs to be a longer cooldown timer on Battle Cloak the Romulans and Klingons use...
Like maybe a 30 second cooldown at least and or most. This has gotten way out of hand..enough is enough..
"Alright people I made this posts to get people talking not for you to sit there and laugh at how many posts I made in my lifetime..Just because I don't like to Post about stuff doesn't make my opinion any less Valid as those of you who have 1000+ posts. Like really people? Since when did the amount of Digital Social Posts determine your self entitlement? I'm not downgrading anyone or talking bad about anyone when I say my opinion is just as valid as yours.
Also in reference to some people opinions on how they think I abandoned my post, how can you possibly determine that? You don't know my schedule; I work 12 hour shift and then I'm off for 8 until my next 12 hour shift. I'm a 911 Police Dispatcher and I only have a couple days off, please excuse me while I go save another 50 lives on my next 12 hour shift. I don't have have a lot of free time.
Now to start my explanation on my post. I am sorry if it comes off a little less detailed than what I intended. I admit it was a bit of a rage post; come on we all do it at one point or another (and if not then your a rotten apple liar). To continue on my explanation; I have noticed that almost 60-80% of the Klingons and or Romulans (mostly Romulans) are cloaking and decloaking virtually at will with a very short cool down. I kinda have a bit of an issue regarding that cooldown on ANY ship. Before anyone says that I need to invest in Sensors and stuff to of which I all ready know how to do being a member for a good amount of years. Investing in Sensors and finding the cloakers is not the problem, Cloaking is not a problem! I think is an excalent idea and mechanic in game! I just have a slight issue regarding the cool down timer on Cloak/Battle Cloak/Enhanced Battle Cloak. Perhaps to a extended total of 30 sec. Not a lot of Abilities have the Generous 20 sec cool down that many cloakers experience. The average Cool Down on most abilities is 30-45 sec I believe. Maybe 30 sec for Cloak. 25 sec for Battle Cloak and 20 sec for Enhanced Battle Cloak
An extended cool-down is the topic to be discussed on this post and the original reason for this post in general to be posted. Now please...Discuss."
There needs to be a longer cooldown timer on Battle Cloak the Romulans and Klingons use...
Like maybe a 30 second cooldown at least and or most. This has gotten way out of hand..enough is enough..
"Alright people I made this posts to get people talking not for you to sit there and laugh at how many posts I made in my lifetime..Just because I don't like to Post about stuff doesn't make my opinion any less Valid as those of you who have 1000+ posts. Like really people? Since when did the amount of Digital Social Posts determine your self entitlement? I'm not downgrading anyone or talking bad about anyone when I say my opinion is just as valid as yours.
Also in reference to some people opinions on how they think I abandoned my post, how can you possibly determine that? You don't know my schedule; I work 12 hour shift and then I'm off for 8 until my next 12 hour shift. I'm a 911 Police Dispatcher and I only have a couple days off, please excuse me while I go save another 50 lives on my next 12 hour shift. I don't have have a lot of free time.
Now to start my explanation on my post. I am sorry if it comes off a little less detailed than what I intended. I admit it was a bit of a rage post; come on we all do it at one point or another (and if not then your a rotten apple liar). To continue on my explanation; I have noticed that almost 60-80% of the Klingons and or Romulans (mostly Romulans) are cloaking and decloaking virtually at will with a very short cool down. I kinda have a bit of an issue regarding that cooldown on ANY ship. Before anyone says that I need to invest in Sensors and stuff to of which I all ready know how to do being a member for a good amount of years. Investing in Sensors and finding the cloakers is not the problem, Cloaking is not a problem! I think is an excalent idea and mechanic in game! I just have a slight issue regarding the cool down timer on Cloak/Battle Cloak/Enhanced Battle Cloak. Perhaps to a extended total of 30 sec. Not a lot of Abilities have the Generous 20 sec cool down that many cloakers experience. The average Cool Down on most abilities is 30-45 sec I believe. Maybe 30 sec for Cloak. 25 sec for Battle Cloak and 20 sec for Enhanced Battle Cloak
An extended cool-down is the topic to be discussed on this post and the original reason for this post in general to be posted. Now please...Discuss."
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This does not however make you OP it just means instead of dying and coming back you can sit there and think about how your going to die as soon as you uncloak.
Besides all stealth aspects in every MMO are always subject to constant change im sure this will be nerfed /buffed appropriately
Yeah moderators, don't you dare question the will of...of...whoever this guy is.
Really. How many mice do you have in your pocket, thus comprising this "vast majority?" :rolleyes:
BoP's have alot less hull points, and Warbirds suffer from lower power levels that most.
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As for the cloak CD, meh I don't really care. I still toasted lots of Klingons before. And when my Klingon ship is strong enough for PvP, it will be exciting to experience it from the other side too. Cloaking requires a different fighting strategy. If the cloaks annoy you, then start a Klingon toon and then you can get one yourself. Qapla'!
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Apparently "from this point forward, yes" is the proper answer. A quick search shows 4 threads made by the OP, the first in late 2012 then one in late 2013 without the capital "I am above moderation" banner and the second two today, both with said banner.
EDIT: Hmm. Interestingly, all 4 also appear to be "drive-by" threads. The OP started each, and hasn't posted again in any of them at this time.
this thread is op plz nerf to the romulan or klingon sub forum for discussion. same issue same deal, and i dont like to do it either when you figure out what just happened.
as for the cloaking, everything is fine the way it is.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Due to this overly ... well... whatever.
I wanted to give you an appropriate answer by posting this.
battle cloak don't have a 3 sec cd so your either exaggerating massively or your seeing some one decloaking and then hitting another ability.
i can safely say that feds can do very well in pve and pvp(yeah the entire game) without using a cloaking device. i hate threads like this. because it makes the federation players seem like the borg. as they want to assimilate everything the Klingons and now romulans have.
Probably makes more sense if they are supposedly "Cloaking in the middle of a fight" as short of a Scimitar with the right consoles, shields would go down when cloaking so all that fire that would be getting poured on them would go right to their hull. Unless if course there is no fire, in which case it wasn't "in the middle of a fight".
Well, I guess it IS time for another "OMG cloak is OP" thread. :rolleyes:
I don't recall ever being polled about this. Who was it you did poll for your vast majority? So far it's looking like the majority don't agree with you. :P
Cloak is fine, you just need to change up your gameplay and learn how to defeat it. There are many ways to mitigate or defeat a cloak.
Sounds like you need to stay out of Kerrat.
Also, shouldn't this go under Builds, Powers, and Game Mechanics?
As for dealing with cloaking birds...Hold your torps until they are about the cloak. It is pretty easy to anticipate. Then high-yield trico and boom.
Also, there are plenty of ways to decloak ships, or prevent them from recloaking. You need to make use of these methods because the cooldown on a blown cloak is plenty of time to pop a bird of prey if you know what you are doing.
You can't BeamFireAtWill all day long and expect to blow up a good KDF player.
Why not just get that and use it?
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Admittedly, it is annoying the 'sure its counterable' argument, as yes thats true IF you're carrying the right powers or have a friend who's doing so, whereas the cloaker gets it built in at no cost and its just click the button. Plus a lot of ships simply don't have the room for anti-cloak powers in a general purpose build, and the whole teamwork argument is pretty useless if you'd rather play alone. It is for exactly this reason that I prefer my cloaking ships, initiative at the push of a button, and most people can't do anything about it.
Like someone else said, probably best to just stay out of Kerrat. Biggest cesspool in the game, and not worth wasting effort on.
Maybe. Based on the 2012 thread, I hope he's not holding his breath.
Roms cloak, in the series they'd decloak, fire, cloak etc allot of the time.
I don't play klink but I have two feds, one with avenger cloak, and a rom with battlecloak, honestly it feels right and balanced. The battlecloak etc of roms is offset by other things like weaker hulls etc.
For the first time since I started posting on here, no. Just no.
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Well, there's your problem! You're PvPing!
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Get some keybinds, always move, stay buffed up at all times. When the "dreaded" alpha comes, hit brace for impact and evasive maneuvers (and RSP if needed) and you will have so much resist and defense that even the best builds can't hurt you. If you're a sci captain and you have tractor beam, you have options to punish the attacker.
Now I will say, for only -40 power (which is negated too easily), singularity powers are somewhat annoying. Far from OP, more like a crutch.
Oh, and if you're going to pvp, get over instakills. Alpha literally takes zero skill - find lone target, mash spacebar.
I'm calling a lie on this one, everyone knows the biggest cesspool in the game is ESD.
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