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Favorite cryptic ship design?

alsayyidalsayyid Member Posts: 115 Arc User
edited February 2014 in The Art of Star Trek Online
It seems that the ships Cryptic designs polarizes a lot of us. Some feel certain ships aren't very "trek" or do not reflect the persona or the design philosophy of the faction. While others are enamored with particular designs.

So what design (without stats as a factor) do you find to be your favorite? What works for you?

I personally love the Bortas model. I love the size and mass it projects. It seems like something a Klingon would design to dance with Borg cubes. The armor plates and the hardpoints on the head reflect a singleminded determination to punch through enemy lines. It may be very different from other KDF ships that seem agile but I love it anyway. My only qualm is the BoP that sticks out the ship's butt.
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    captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    alsayyid wrote: »
    It seems that the ships Cryptic designs polarizes a lot of us. Some feel certain ships aren't very "trek" or do not reflect the persona or the design philosophy of the faction. While others are enamored with particular designs.

    Its no different to the TV series. Some love certain designs, others hate it. Any time aesthetics comes into any debate, no one will agree.

    Anyway,

    KDF probably the Bortasq
    Starfleet probably the Thunderchild
    Romulans, probably the new dyson hyrbrid

    I say probably because these are just off the top of my head, and I rarely have just one favourite of anything.
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    ltdata96ltdata96 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Jupiter, Typhoon and Venture classes are probably by favs, all of the Star Cruiser designs are pretty awsome also. Also love the Atrox Class design.

    On KDF Side, i really like the Vo'Quv and the Bortas.

    For roms, the new Science Destroyer looks pretty nice imo
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    shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I allways felt that Cryptic does really well on their own KDF designs. I consider their KDF ship design to be one of their main strenghts.
    My favourite design in game probably is the Bortasqu', with the Mogh and Krenn coming closely second. I'm also a big fan of the Hegh'ta design, that rates top as well for me.

    On the Federation side though....I really feel they need some help. I'm being honest and not trashing anyone here, but to me most Cryptic Starfleet designs are hideous.

    I'm not judging on the Romulan lineup yet, I feel they need to do more work in order for me to form an opinion about their Romulan designs. So far I consider some of them rather horrible, but on the other hand they released some really nice and sleek ones as well.
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    kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I have to say that my favorite Cryptic design so far has to be the Mogh. It combines the most aesthetically pleasing elements of the other KDF ships and makes it work. The nose is reminiscent of a combination of Negh'var and Vor'cha. The neck and aft are seemingly taken from the Bortas (which I never disliked the look of, only the bad stats). And the wings are either Vor'cha from the C-store (which I prefer), or Negh'var from the fleet version.

    Not to mention on top of all that, it has arguably the best stats of any KDF ship.
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    dongemaharudongemaharu Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I think Cryptic does horribly with Fed designs in general. Everything else is fine.

    While I think the shape of the Star Cruiser is too unbalanced, their retro nacelles are awesome. I'd love to see them on other ships.

    The fan designed ships like the Chimera and Odyssey look much better, IMO.

    The Avenger/Legoscort and the Solanae ships look like toys.

    I do like the Vesta's saucer, but the nacelles are too wimpy for it.
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    kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    like the Chimera

    Why does everyone think this ship looks good? Have you seen the bulbous underbelly that makes it look like it's pregnant? If this was less pronounced, sort of like the Sovereign, I would agree that it looks all around aesthetically pleasing, but this just kills it.
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    johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Why does everyone think this ship looks good? Have you seen the bulbous underbelly that makes it look like it's pregnant? If this was less pronounced, sort of like the Sovereign, I would agree that it looks all around aesthetically pleasing, but this just kills it.

    At least it doesn't have helmet, like it's Klingon counterpart.

    I quite like the D'Ridthau on the Romulan side, but the Daenios is pretty nice too. My only gripe is there's no black/metal material, with red accents and windows. The new Dyson ships is the sex.

    For the Klinks, gotta be the Vo'Quv or the Bortasqu. The Mogh is nice but it's a bit stubby.

    As for the Fed - the non-Canon Vesta variants are cool, but if they don't count, then maybe the Imperial-class or the Dyson ship. I also like the Chimera.
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    talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Fav designs.

    Romulan: Ak'rif and dyson.
    Federation: Vesta and Oddy
    KDF: Mog and the Bortas
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    artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    Typhoon!
    1.

    2.

    Really most of them, save the Olympic line, Comet line, the Cryptic Nova skins, Cryptic Sovy skins.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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    kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    johngazman wrote: »
    At least it doesn't have helmet, like it's Klingon counterpart.

    At no point did I say that the penguin ship was any better.

    For Rom side, I really like the Valdore.
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    lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited February 2014
    Fed, Thunderchild, Armitage
    KDF, Vor'Kang
    Rom, Dyson Scidestroyer, but then it is hard to top the canon mogai for pure design esthetics.
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    atalossataloss Member Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Tal Shiar Adapted Battle Cruiser
    That ship looks so bad a$$ that I can't help but to stare at it. In my opinion that ship looks more intimidating than the Scimitar. The Adapted Battle Crusier looks like a roach took a bath in crazy glue then jumped in a pool of broken metal. Darn it (<--Invert vulgarity here) I love that ship's design.

    You know in movies/cartoons the uglier the ship,...the more dangerous it is.
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    januhulljanuhull Member Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Feds:

    Odyssey and Temporal Destroyer (the Bat Starship)

    Romulans:

    Tal Shiar Battlecruiser

    Klingon:

    Bortasqu'


    Alien:

    Borg Command Ship (aka Baby V'Ger)
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    ccarmichael07ccarmichael07 Member Posts: 755 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Hands down, the Excalibur class. I feel it is the most aesthetically pleasing of all of Cryptic's ships.

    But, then, I am a fan of the Constitution Class ships, so that styling does something for me. :)


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    no09dysonsphereno09dysonsphere Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Totally agree with the OP - this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I just don't like the designs of the Ar'kif and new Dyson warbird. For me Romulan designs are supposed to be sleek and birdlike, the Ar'kif tries to mix the D'deridex and the Mogai but it ends up looking really boxy, especially from the rear, and I don't like how the Aves class flattened out the double hull the same way and added the filligree pattern that breaks up the sleekness of the wings.

    On the other hand, I love the design of the R'mor and really think cryptic did an awesome job extrapolating the D'deridex's design to the 29th century.
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    adverberoadverbero Member Posts: 2,045 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I'm a big fan of the Regent and imperial skins ( but then i'm a sovereign fan anways)

    In fact i love most if no all of the Refit versions that use the type 6 hull material, In my opinion cryptic has done a good job of bringing the classic designs into 2409 with style
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    lordkratos1974lordkratos1974 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    as long as it isn't an escort, all ship designed look good, except ALL escorts.
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    sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Its no different to the TV series. Some love certain designs, others hate it. Any time aesthetics comes into any debate, no one will agree.

    That might be pushing it a wee bit. The canon designs tend to be considered head and shoulders above the majority of cryptic designs by a far wider majority than those thinking all the cryptic models are top notch. It's not because we know them from the shows as much as I think the artists that worked on the films and shows were simply in a different league in terms of artistic ability and sense for how a model "flows". The lego blocky look and arrangement of a lot of cryptics "home brew" designs just seem... off in some ways. A few of them fair a lot better than others, but many just have an awkwardness to them that is difficult to articulate. I think the only cryptic design I've seen that made me say "Omg they NAILED it!" was the thunderchild.
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    angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    adverbero wrote: »
    In fact i love most if no all of the Refit versions that use the type 6 hull material, In my opinion cryptic has done a good job of bringing the classic designs into 2409 with style

    I agree, the Refit line-up of all the canon ships look quite nice. I wish they would use those more to reflect an evolution in Starfleet's visuals. Their original creations however are not much to my liking.

    I also agree with the sentiment that the Klingon designs look "better", although one has to mention that the BortasQ is a straight rip-off of the Terran Battleship from Star Craft. I' honestly puzzled why Blizzard did not sue Cryptic over that.
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    kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    angrytarg wrote: »
    one has to mention that the BortasQ is a straight rip-off of the Terran Battleship from Star Craft. I' honestly puzzled why Blizzard did not sue Cryptic over that.

    I've been wondering that since the ship first came out. More than likely Cryptic paid someone off to look the other way, and factored that into the costs of its production.
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    purplegamerpurplegamer Member Posts: 1,015 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I really like the Avenger, but that straight-angle neck could use a more graceful line.
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    ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The ships they have invested time into polishing all look good. The ships that were rushed from the beginning and have never been revisited still look like TRIBBLE. For example, the Ambassador has been through three or four unannounced polishes (and at least one major announced upgrade), and its a very nice looking ship now, but it wasnt that nice when it was first released. Things like the Nausicaan and Gorn and Orion ships, and NPC only ships, all have significant problems (windows that extend where they shouldnt, diffrent types of window types on the same ship, etc).
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    jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Fed: Tough. The Odyssey is probably their best, but even that's based on a fan design.

    KDF: Mogh, no contest. If I had to pick a runner-up, imma come from left field and say K'tanco. I love me some bent pylons and the "chins" on these ships make them look mean.

    Rom: No question, Daeinos. It's simple, calls back to older and newer Romulan aesthetics, and manages to look like something you could totally see on TV.

    Why does everyone think this ship looks good?

    I think the same thing every time somebody says the Typhoon and Jupiter look good. They're ugly, awful, obvious kitbashes with virtually no redeeming features (barring only the Typhoon's paired nacelles) and are clearly rush jobs intended only to fill out the Fed NPC lineup.

    At least things like the Chimera and Odyssey had time, effort, and quality work put into them, regardless of what peoples' opinions are of them.
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    jamesstjamesjamesstjames Member Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I'd say Odyssey as it's sleek design is a nice upgrade to the Sovereign and fits in nicely with design lineage - but as it's technically not a Cryptic original it might not count...

    Aside form that maybe the Star Cruiser. I know it's not a huge favourite but to me if you mix some of the skins it looks like a Trek version of the Galactica - something that might have fit into the background as a carrier for all those peregrines in DS9, the Defiants big brother in design logic.
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    derbeelzebotderbeelzebot Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Fed: Maelstrom class Patrol escort. I can understand if people think that it doesn't fit into the Federation's aesthetics, but I just like the design.

    KDF: Corsair flight-deck cruiser. It fits nearly perfectly from what I would expect from an orion pleasure cruise/piracy vessel. Only gripe is that it cannot equip dual cannons although they're quite clearly modelled on the front. Distant second would be the Bortas(qu'). Even if it was stolen from Starcraft, I'd say that's okay, since Blizzard has next to no lore that isn't "adapted" from other original sources.

    Romulans: Temporal vessels. Daeinos comes in as a close second. I love the Romulan canon models, so finding a Cryptic design that can stand next to them isn't easy. But the R'Mor/Talvath do a good job of extrapolating some kind of future design. And I can appreciate the Daeinois for the sleakness and simplicity of the design.

    I also agree that Cryptic has done a better job on its KDF vessels (Nausicaan ships look nice, too), than on Fed/Rom ones.
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    neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    FEd: Exeter class

    KDF: Hegh'ta

    Romulan: Ar'Kif
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    fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The lego blocky look and arrangement of a lot of cryptics "home brew" designs just seem... off in some ways. A few of them fair a lot better than others, but many just have an awkwardness to them that is difficult to articulate. I think the only cryptic design I've seen that made me say "Omg they NAILED it!" was the thunderchild.

    Same here. The new, original designs all seem to come out of a toy-box. Mogh, the Fed Dyson destroyer, Bortas, Avenger, Risian corvette etc... all seem to be too blocky, their colours, patterns and appearance not very trek-like.

    Most of the Cryptic design I enjoy are those based on original Star Trek designs. The Thunderchild or the Exeter are good examples of ship I really like.

    As far as truely original designs go, the old ones are nice (e.g. DSSv, Star Cruiser, Patrol escort).
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    cptrichardson12cptrichardson12 Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    sonnikku wrote: »
    That might be pushing it a wee bit. The canon designs tend to be considered head and shoulders above the majority of cryptic designs by a far wider majority than those thinking all the cryptic models are top notch. It's not because we know them from the shows as much as I think the artists that worked on the films and shows were simply in a different league in terms of artistic ability and sense for how a model "flows". The lego blocky look and arrangement of a lot of cryptics "home brew" designs just seem... off in some ways. A few of them fair a lot better than others, but many just have an awkwardness to them that is difficult to articulate. I think the only cryptic design I've seen that made me say "Omg they NAILED it!" was the thunderchild.

    I disagree. The Galaxy design sucked....

    Until Cryptic produced the Venture class and knocked the ball out of the park so hard that it hit Apollo 11 on the way back to earth. That is Cryptic's finest vessel.
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    alexmakepeacealexmakepeace Member Posts: 10,633 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Fed: Exeter, maybe the Oddy (its proportions are kind of off), Venture, Thunderchild
    KDF: Bortasque
    Rom: Ar'kif and Talvath
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    guyver1984guyver1984 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    My Patrol Escort has always been my favorite ship.
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