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What would really happen if Star Trek and Star Wars fought.
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that a statement or a question?
former? doesnt make much sense the latter? nerd rage, two camps both wetting the bed to extreme amounts in their dreams each night imagining how the empire can defeat the republic and starfleet at the same time, vice versa klingons on starfleet and republic. meanwhile the romulans and hutt empire remain as anonymous as ever.
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I think this to be accurate, including the ending^
ya like the connie taking on the galaxy not going to happen but in ones *** dream
system Lord Baal is dead
Of course, Data, who is not affected, fires all phasers and destroys the Star Destroyer.
The REAL battle
system Lord Baal is dead
And thats an Acclamator-class LOL.
LOL can you imagine what a Super Star Destroyer Eclipse-class would do to Starfleet
A single star destroyer can 'level' a planet. The death star was use for shielded planets. Umm, anyway I don't see trek winning. Sorry...
Nice chart. The only thing it is missing is a blue pixel labeled Tardis. Now that would be a challenge for them.
Well, to be honest, I think ST ships are just as capable of wiping out all life on a planet. Not to mention that unless somebody sealed that exhaust port, a photon torpedo could achieve the same effect as a proton torpedo. Furthermore, we do not know whether or not transporters would be affected by SW shielding. If they weren't, then you could just beam a torpedo next to the reactor core on just about any SW ship and either let the resulting explosion wipe out the ship, or leave useless ship hulls in your wake, depending on how powerful the explosion would be.
Furthermore, weapons of ridiculous power exist within ST as well. Even if you're right in believing that no Starfleet ship can produce enough firepower to wipe out an Imperial-class star destroyer, you can always fall back on the Borg, the Undine (wiped out entire planets as well as the Borg, so they've definitely got the firepower), the Voth, any dormant planet killers you might find in nebulae :rolleyes:, large clusters of warp cores turned into bombs, Scimitars... and I didn't even mention the fact that SW starfighters would be completely useless.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Everyone who are rabid fans of both IPs would die a slow, and agonizing Nerdgasm death.:D
Well, since it's there already... :P
Also, I believe the most accurate comparison between Q and anything in SW would be the Ones from the Mortis arc of TCW - and, based on what I know about them, even they are children compared to the Q, so the statement you mentioned was entirely subjective. Of course, that may simply be because I haven't read their Wookieepedia page in a while.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
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Then we have the sith empire, an entire empire that is ruled by the sith emperor. They had a massive armada of star destroyer sized dreadnaughts and a massive ground army. They also have the best intelligence networks in the Galaxy who's agents were trained to be manipulative, stealth, and the most dangerous assassins ever.
Then there is the galatic republic who, through time have had many different armies. They have a squad of eliete troopers who are the top of their class and the most skilled soldiers ever found. Then there is their their armada of warships. Next we get into the clone armies, billions of genetically engineered soldiers. Then there are also the droid armies and the massive separatist fleets including a four kilometer long warship with ion cannons that can disable the shields, power, weapons, and life support systems of a small fleet of ships before destroying them. And we have the two death star's too. Then we get into the jedi and sith. One sith Lord was so powerful that he could pull fleets of ships out of the sky and crashland them, he was also capable of creating illusions that were able to do physical damage. Then there is the Sith Emperor who has the ability to kill every single life form in a galaxy and absorb the life force into his own to make himself more powerful. All in all I think star wars would win.:D
Then Star Wars can release the blue shadow virus into a planet which will kill everything in about an hour.
The one problem I have with this is:
The Romulan Star Empire can field a Scimitar-Class Warbird and wipe out an entire planet's population in about 5 minutes.
Seriously though, are people still having this argument? We all know Babylon 5 would win! /jk
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So, in a battle between Starfleet and the Empire, Starfleet will win.
The details of how they win are left to those lowly beings, the scriptwriters, to work out....
Bad idea... if you assume such a thing, the Q Continuum is fighting alongside the Borg Collective, alongside most of the major powers of the Alpha and Beta quadrants, alongside the Voth, and so on. Each of these have the ability to inflict crippling damage upon SW - but the Q alone could, given their omnipotent and omnificient nature, destroy the SW galaxy with the blink of an eye.
Iconians managed to do at least 1 of the two, the Borg achieved the last, and as I observed in my last post, the Q are closer to "gods" than "god-like". The Celestials just can't compete.
First off, the Star Forge was incapable of producing biological troops. Might want to correct that to make it unambiguous.
Second, the Interdictor-class cruiser has to be inferior to most modern Starfleet ships, even if I'm not calling upon the Voth or the Borg again.
Their massive armada and massive ground army would have been no match for that of the Galactic Empire, which is a lot closer to "massive armada and massive ground army" than anything the Sith Empire could even dream of having. As for intelligence networks...
Founders and Undine are both more than capable of matching Imperial Intelligence, which isn't much of a feat. It sounds as if you're mixing game mechanics with actual facts.
So, based on what you're saying, all the armies the Republic ever had are going to be blended into one faction? Okay...
Havoc Squad, while definitely above average, is still suffering from game mechanics overinflating your opinion of them. The peak of the Republic's power was in the Clone Wars, but I will observe that even all the Republic armies in history combined would be incapable of defeating the full might of the Borg Collective.
The Malevolence was one ship - and one that would fall easily to an Undine fleet. Or a Borg one. Not sure about the Voth on this one. Also, something I forgot to mention up to now:
The vastness of an army makes no difference if you cannot somehow apply its power. Besides, the moment the Borg adapted to blasters, you're almost defenseless.
The first had an exhaust port that could easily be exploited by a photon torpedo, the latter was never completely finished.
This I will admit may render Founders and Undine alike ineffective for intelligence operations, however the Undine would be capable of doing the same to Imperial operatives.
Other than that, their power could be a significant problem to the enemy if applied correctly. Until we remember that the Q are backing ST's forces. So, assuming the Q didn't wipe the entire galaxy out of existence, this point is once again moot.
I know of no Sith who could do both. However, Naga Sadow's power with illusions was apparently unparalleled. Still doesn't help against the Q.
Ah, but Vitiate cannot do what you just said. He is trying to perform such a ritual, but he requires the deaths of many people before that is possible. Nonetheless, it's no use if he gets wiped out first, by Q or the other major powers of the Milky Way.
Not in an all-out IP duel, it wouldn't. Not at all.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
But then the Ancients would stop hi--
Sorry, wrong IP. :P
You're forgetting that the Q would probably stop him from getting that far.
And there is one massive glaring flaw with this entire debate.
Star Trek = Science Fiction
Star Wars = Science Fantasy.
They are two different genres, and both have OP Deus Ex Machinas available! It would be like comparing the Unstoppable Object to the Irresistible Force!
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The viruses are nasty, yes - until the Q or the Borg intervene. Possibly even the Undine.
An interesting point. And a nice idea.
Q could wipe him out of existence before that, sorry.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
On the other hand I would love to see the Borg unicomplex infected with the Rakgouhl virus turning the drones and the queen into Rakgouhls crawling all over the place pooping and eating each other.
But a 70year old B'rel did.
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Yes, that's right... Star Trek has planet busters too! Oh you wanted something that isn't a knockoff of the Death Star? The Doomsday device!
Honestly I think that Borg nanotech would trump the Rakghoul plague. Nanoprobes can work on pretty much anything organic and the Rakghoul plague doesn't seem to have any way to purge the nanoprobes. (that and there are two cures for the plague in SW)
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wow did you watch the movie???? did you forget what they did to Geordi LaForge did you forget they use him to find their shield frequency or did that just slip your mind?
system Lord Baal is dead
Not sure if you mean the Xindi Superweapon or the Spheres from the Expanse. If the latter, the spheres only convert space to be inhabitable to the Sphere Builders (and, thus, uninhabitable for us).
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I know, I was just checking. It's a fairly easy mistake for someone to make so I just thought I'd make sure.
Though, in fairness, that weapon didn't even have shields and only made it to Earth because the Sphere Builders intervened.
*Looks as everyone's shocked he remembered that.*
It was on Sky 2 last night on re-runs...
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