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Steam Stats for Season 8 = judge yourself

zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
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source:

http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&jstime=1&appid=9900&from=1322694000000&to=End+Time


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that is all.
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  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited December 2013
    Legacy of Romulus was a full-blown expansion -- it's hard to compare that to a Season. You're also missing the circles for Season 6 and Season 7. And, this is only Steam players :)

    Cheers,

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  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited December 2013
    It's spiking higher than any other season.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Season 8 beat out season 6, and 7 nice...good job Cryptic


    but this is only for Steam so we don't really know.
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    There's also the question of how many people switching to Steam to avoid ARC?
  • zathri83zathri83 Member Posts: 514 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Back to the marvel heroes forums with you Zero! Also, lolsteam.
  • mrspidey2mrspidey2 Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Interesting. So all the nerdrage concerning "dinosaurs with friggin lasers on their heads" was nothing but a TRIBBLE in the wind.
    Figured as much.
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  • jimqqijimqqi Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    LoR almost matched the f2p spike 0_o
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I am surprised that the Anniversary event did far better than Season 7. Graph appears to be as expected. Ton of players when any game goes F2P and Expansion for any MMO. Some increase for when the Season appears. According to this, Season 8 is the best Season since the game went F2P. LoR is an expansion not a Season.
  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Member Posts: 3,085 Arc User1
    edited December 2013
    drogyn1701 wrote: »
    It's spiking higher than any other season.
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  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    reginamala78 wrote: »
    There's also the question of how many people switching to Steam to avoid ARC?

    It would be interesting to see a side by side stats comparison of Steam and Arc actually.
  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Legacy of Romulus was a full-blown expansion -- it's hard to compare that to a Season. You're also missing the circles for Season 6 and Season 7. And, this is only Steam players :)

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Also there was a ton more advertising for LoR than Season 8, as I recall.
  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited December 2013
    mandoknight89 wrote: »
    Also there was a ton more advertising for LoR than Season 8, as I recall.

    Yep. It was Romulans this, Romulans that. KDF improvements (tutorial revamp, expansion to 1-50) were ignored almost completely by marketing, I think, and people wonder why numbers didn't seem to spike. Gotta market that stuff.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Not sure, but I think the original intend of the OP kinda backfired.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    jimqqi wrote: »
    LoR almost matched the f2p spike 0_o

    No wonder the server had long queues to get in. And I'd say that tremendous response to the addition of Romulans all but guarantees we'll get another super-season like LoR in the future.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    anazonda wrote: »
    Not sure, but I think the original intend of the OP kinda backfired.

    Took the words right outta my mouth :P
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Those questioning this being STEAM results, general results can't be that much different.
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Legacy of Romulus was a full-blown expansion -- it's hard to compare that to a Season. You're also missing the circles for Season 6 and Season 7. And, this is only Steam players :)

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
    Curiously (if you're in a position to answer this) your reply to the OP would suggest that Season 8 received the results you had hoped for where I think it was underwhelming. Would you say that Season 8 achieved what you wanted it too?
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    flash525 wrote: »
    Curiously (if you're in a position to answer this) your reply to the OP would suggest that Season 9 received the results you had hoped for where I think it was underwhelming. Would you say that Season 9 achieved what you wanted it too?

    Unless he has a time machine, how can he possibly tell what season 9 achieved? :D
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  • zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    You're also missing the circles for Season 6 and Season 7. And, this is only Steam players :)

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Feel free to add them circles, idk exactly where they would belong.
    And feel free to point us to the complete stats... oh right... dat *we're not telling numb3rs*-policy... well i take the numbers i can get over none ;)

    also note: no login queue for Season 8, while Season 6 + 7 had long ones, seems like more people could actually log in this time = higher numbers counted?
    (but then... people in the queue already have the client open, which would still count in steam... uuuh.... awesome now i'm confusing myself...)

    zathri83 wrote: »
    Back to the marvel heroes forums with you Zero! Also, lolsteam.

    i actually troll around Battlefield 4 a bit more the past few weeks... and i feel MH is getting a bit grindy and i can see those *patterns* crop up again everywhere...
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  • kirksplatkirksplat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    This is all inconclusive, of course. If there was a huge spike around S8, it could indicate a predictable reaction against ARC. So, some folks would use that evidence any which way they could, depending upon their opinion of either ARC or S8.

    And, it's no real surprise that LoR and F2P are the highest spikes. Nevertheless, if there is any truth to this graph as an indication of the health of the game, it seems pretty clear that it hits a plateau very quickly after each update. I don't see a lot of evidence for anything resembling an upward, long-term trend of growth. It looks more like a roller coaster.

    LOR seems to look like the best example of content that sustained a player's interest for a short period.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    zerobang wrote: »
    Feel free to add them circles, idk exactly where they would belong.
    And feel free to point us to the complete stats... oh right... dat *we're not telling numb3rs*-policy... well i take the numbers i can get over none ;)

    Season 6 is after July 1, 2012 with 2,916 and Season 7 is after October 1, 2012 with 3,220.
  • smazazelsmazazel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Should it be noted the MASSIVE crash in players after those spikes when they realized all the bugs and grinds and other annoying stuff in this game?
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    by looking steam stats this game have more players then eve,lord of the rings and many others mmos
  • newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited December 2013
    We obviously need a new Cardassian/beta jem'hadar faction expansion ASAP!!;)

    Could the founders and the true way be up to some nefarious tricks??
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    starswordc wrote: »
    Unless he has a time machine, how can he possibly tell what season 9 achieved? :D
    Haah! Whoops. I've edited that now. Thanks! :o
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  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    So basically OP was trying to show us that season 8 failed, right?

    Looks to me like the game (at least the steam community) is the strongest it has ever been

    Spikes are spikes, they never last. Look at the baseline, we are larger now than at any point in history over about 5 averaged datapoints.
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  • twamtwam Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    reginamala78 wrote: »
    There's also the question of how many people switching to Steam to avoid ARC?

    Pro-tip: download through steam, then use a direct shortcut to the launcher. Playing without any gaming platforms running :)
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    twam wrote: »
    Pro-tip: download through steam, then use a direct shortcut to the launcher. Playing without any gaming platforms running :)

    Or click the link in my sig. That's the installer for just STO, no wrapper save the Cryptic launcher.
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  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,511 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    pwebranflakes wrote: »
    Legacy of Romulus was a full-blown expansion -- it's hard to compare that to a Season. You're also missing the circles for Season 6 and Season 7. And, this is only Steam players :)

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Going by that graph you (Cryptic, no you personally of course) need to improve your "keep the massive amount of players that lurks in for the next shiny" skills. Immensly.
  • zerobangzerobang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    rylanadionysis wrote: »
    So basically OP was trying to show us that season 8 failed, right?

    i said "judge yourself" ... you did. i'm ok with that.



    my judgment of the data is... the base line you see (2500 - 3000 players average) is the part of the playerbase that doesn't get annoyed enough by the bugs too leave over it and is happy enough with the daily grind to do it.

    the spike above that with LoR represents .... too an unknown amount players that tested it and just didn't like it, but more so: players that want Story-Mission content over grind maps/zones, and it only falls down again once the new shiny content is consumed.


    the good thing is, compared to other F2P MMOs on Steam of the same genre (strong licensed IP + F2P MMO), the overall numbers are all more or less same-ish.

    http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&jstime=1&appid=9900q24200q226320q212500&from=1320102000000&to=End+Time

    i mean DCUO had a spike of 17000 players on its F2P launch and has averaged out near or below STO's numbers. LOTRO was near STOs numbers, then fell to half of it and just now got a little bump again...
    Marvel Heroes' numbers seem a bit more spiky, but still seem to be steadily declining to an average that is also around STOs numbers...

    sooo all in all... numbers are where one could expect them to be for this type of game.
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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited December 2013
    kirksplat wrote: »
    This is all inconclusive, of course. If there was a huge spike around S8, it could indicate a predictable reaction against ARC. So, some folks would use that evidence any which way they could, depending upon their opinion of either ARC or S8.

    And, it's no real surprise that LoR and F2P are the highest spikes. Nevertheless, if there is any truth to this graph as an indication of the health of the game, it seems pretty clear that it hits a plateau very quickly after each update. I don't see a lot of evidence for anything resembling an upward, long-term trend of growth. It looks more like a roller coaster.

    LOR seems to look like the best example of content that sustained a player's interest for a short period.

    This! Not exactly evidence of doom but no upward trajectory either. Notice how the LoR boost has completely vanished. This fits in pretty much with the STO experience. It is pretty consistent with lots of grind and bits of content thrown in every once and a while (LoR was the big outlier - content wise and # of players).

    It is a niche 3rd tier MMO ... but for fans of Star Trek and those who like its unique space combat ... it is all we have.
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