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azurescarab
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I know, I know. Asking which Vesta is best might as well be like asking which canon captain is your favorite...but hear me out.
I want to take advantage of the ship sale ending tomorrow (And due to real life complications, I basically have another...8 hours to make the buy or I'm getting none of it). I did take advantage of the bonus Zen sale, so I have enough funds to buy a Vesta.
Problem is, which one. And before anyone goes advertising the bundle, I just want to ask - how does the bundle work, do you unpack just one ship at a time, or do you have to do all three simultaneously?
Little background on me, to help the discussion. I'm an ENG Captain whose focus and ships of choice have been (obviously) Science Vessels. Because of my skill builds and choices in equipment, I have good to excellent survivability, but I could use a little extra DPS across the board to actually feel like I'm contributing and not just pecking away at things.
And yes, I've heard most of the stuff already - I have a Plasmonic Leech console I plan on using on the ship, as well as plans to grab some Scorpion Fighters for the hangar bay to further boost my DPS (though I may swap that out with Delta Flyers for their ability to strip shields w/Tachyon Beam).
My playstyle is flexible - usually I like to hang out somewhere between 5km and max range between the target, firing away, but I have no problems going right at the enemy and giving them all the guns they can stand until I come back around for another run.
I was originally thinking Eng Vesta, for the extra Eng console which would either be the Vesta Eng Universal, or Ablative Hull Armor for the bonus to DR.
For the record, my usual favorite targets are Borg & Tholians, so a focus into how to tune a Vesta into a killer of either (or both) species would be great. Thank you.
I want to take advantage of the ship sale ending tomorrow (And due to real life complications, I basically have another...8 hours to make the buy or I'm getting none of it). I did take advantage of the bonus Zen sale, so I have enough funds to buy a Vesta.
Problem is, which one. And before anyone goes advertising the bundle, I just want to ask - how does the bundle work, do you unpack just one ship at a time, or do you have to do all three simultaneously?
Little background on me, to help the discussion. I'm an ENG Captain whose focus and ships of choice have been (obviously) Science Vessels. Because of my skill builds and choices in equipment, I have good to excellent survivability, but I could use a little extra DPS across the board to actually feel like I'm contributing and not just pecking away at things.
And yes, I've heard most of the stuff already - I have a Plasmonic Leech console I plan on using on the ship, as well as plans to grab some Scorpion Fighters for the hangar bay to further boost my DPS (though I may swap that out with Delta Flyers for their ability to strip shields w/Tachyon Beam).
My playstyle is flexible - usually I like to hang out somewhere between 5km and max range between the target, firing away, but I have no problems going right at the enemy and giving them all the guns they can stand until I come back around for another run.
I was originally thinking Eng Vesta, for the extra Eng console which would either be the Vesta Eng Universal, or Ablative Hull Armor for the bonus to DR.
For the record, my usual favorite targets are Borg & Tholians, so a focus into how to tune a Vesta into a killer of either (or both) species would be great. Thank you.
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The way the bundle works is that you will get three boxes in your inv. you then open it like any other box. when you get the bundle it also unlock the individual vesta in the c-store too.
Best way really.
Like the above guy said you get all three in shiny boxes and you can un box one at a time, or unbox all of them jack their consoles and weapons, then dismiss all but the one you want.
And then if you change your mind and want to try a seperate one you can re-claim it from the c-store or through the shipyard. It will also provide all three account wide for FED toons.
Go for the Bundle worst buyers remorse is buying one and then wanting the other two later and end up shelling out 75 when you could have saved yourself 25.
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For pure science, the Vesta-class Surveillance Explorer gives you 5 science consoles and IMHO has the best of the three consoles with the AOE heal. Standard Vesta is what my science character uses, figuring if you're going to do science, do science!
Alternately, the Aventine-class Recon Explorer gives you a bit more damage and a bit less science, making a good sci-scort combo but not quite as focused as the Vesta. The Phaser console it comes with is cool but ultimately the usual gimmick console, kinda neat but ultimately too long a CD and the space better spent on something else. On the plus side, personally I find the Aventine the best looking of the three, but thats just me.
I'd pass on the Rademaker as a stand-alone though. Diverting to engineering doesn't use either of the Vesta's strengths as a science ship or offensive platform (relative to other science ships anyways), and is just so jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none. Plus the console is not only gimmicky but a pretty lame gimmick, and the top it all off the ship is just ugly to boot.
I'd reiterate 3-pack if at all possible. If that simply isn't an option, then at the very least NOT the Rademaker. Then you only have to decide if you want to be pure science or science-dps hybrid.
I personally run the sci Vesta Class (Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer) & you can see my build in my sig.
Don't have the vesta pack[WANT IT BADLY] but why get rid of the dual heavies? I mean they fire from you Aux level. Crank them and your weapon energy to as high as it will go and you got one hell of a build.
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The major problem with the DHCs, in my opinion, is they limit you to phasers, as you stated, which, to be honest, if the Vesta universal consoles had a quicker cooldown or did more damage it'd make a phaser build worth it; however, that's just not the case.
I run my Vesta, science variant, at full AUX and Shield with 50% to weapons for the beam arrays I carry. My primary source of damage are torpedos and my science abilities. This is really where the Vesta shines, in my usage anyway.
There are many variations you can try with your Vesta and, in the end, it really does simply come down to a matter of what you are looking for in your build. Since you have the 3-pack, try the consoles out and the DHCs as well. If you like it, stick with it. If you don't, throw something else on it and try again.
It really is that versatile of a ship.
Aventine (Tac Vesta) - I have a set of Polaron Beam Arrays that were sitting in my Bank without any use whatsoever (I used them when I was experimenting with weapon setups for my RSV), and they're [Acc]x3 modded. I was thinking of putting those, plus a couple of torpedo launchers, onto this ship, and swapping out the Phaser DHCs and the Universal gimmick console.
Sci-Vesta - I opened a series of Tholian lockboxes recently, and I happened to get a bunch of Phased Tetryon Beam Arrays from those boxes. I was thinking of putting those onto the Sci Vesta, since I was planning on adding a Flow Capacitor console, since I have 5 now, and I know Tetryon weapons benefit from Flow Capacitors...
On a more general note, is the Vesta better suited to one type of attack tactic than another? Or can it do frontal cannons as well as broadsides?
On my Eng in the sci Vesta, I use beams... Adv Fleet Antiproton beams.
My Sci & Tac alts run the tac Vesta: the sci with Disruptor beams & the tac with phaser cannons
Couple of questions I've got for the fleet. I'm going over various consoles I want to mount on my ship. One is Flow Capacitors - I know they affect power drain abilities. Does that mean they would boost the -25 to all Subsystem drains of the Polaron proc? Two - I've got enough Lobi for the Tachyokinetic Converter. Worth it, or not?
1) I put in 6 points into Flow Capacitors and use the Dyson MK XII purple flow capacitor for fun (GW3 gets epic with enough of the Dyson sci consoles) plus they boost the Plasmonic Leech. Not sure about the power boost for Polaron procs...
2) Get the Tachyokinetic Converter.
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Tac Vesta
2 Eng - RCS Accelerator; 1 Chosen Hull Plating
4 Sci - Emitter Array; Emitter Amplifier; Field Generator; Tachyokinetic Converter
4 Tac - 2x Energy Type Booster; Nukara Console; Plasmonic Leech
Sci Vesta
2 Eng - RCS Accelerator; 1 Chosen Hull Plating
4 Sci - Emitter Array; Emitter Amplifier; Field Generator; Tachyokinetic Converter; Gimmick Console/Flow Capacitor/Graviton Generator
3 Tac - Energy Type Booster; Nukara Console; Plasmonic Leech
Anything regarding these setups? Advice? Things I'm doing horribly wrong?
Decided to run the Strategic.
I threw my Fleet mine neutroniums with + turn on them, Dear god it turns like a shuttle at full speed i have 29.6 turn rate.
I could use cannons easy but i chose to keep running my antiproton beams.
The ship is pretty amazing, it out damages and out survives my oddy and that has roughly the same setup. I certainly grabbed my fill of sci powers though.
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Not bad at all
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I like that if i hit Evasive it jumps to like 89. sumthin. I do donuts. :cool:
But this ship is epic, so epic infact that if built properly i can qualify it as OP. Seriously even in my super tank Fleet galaxy i couldnt just eat one of Donatras thalarons on elite.
This thing i ate 5 in ONE match just to make sure the first wasnt some freak fluke.......:D
Also antiproton BFAW FTW with an occasional BO
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How is your damage on GW3? I have 100 aux, 50 weapons, 25 on shields and engines for power & noticed it really helps become quite epic.
:eek: I dont have GW3!
Can't get a fleet mate on at the right time for it (and dont trust strangers)
I run at 100 Weapons (sits at 125) 30 aux and Eng (sits at about 60+) and i think 50 Shields (sits at about 80+)
I'll maunally post my build as sto academy isnt loading right for me.
Shields are a Resilient Adaptive {resB} [cap] x2 and some such
Deflector is another fleetie majigger.
Same with my warp core Mk 12 super awesomesauce.
My engines are actually the Dyson ones cause they are really grand.
6x Advanced Fleet anitprotons acc x2 dmg x2
Consoles are 3x Mine Neutroniums +turn
Asimiliated module, Nukara partivle converter, Embassy mk 12 emitter array, Dyson Field gen Mk 12 purple
3x Mk X purple anti proton mag regulators
Boffs are confusing at best.
i have my ens uni as an eng (right so weird) he drops the EPtS1
i have a Lt. Eng dropping EPtW1 and Aux2Sif1
Lt. tac dropping TT1 and Faw 2
Lt. Cmdr Sci, TSS1 Polarize hull 2, TBR 2
Cmdr Sci, HE1, TSS 2, TR2, GW2
TT = Tactical Team
FAW = Fire at Will
TSS = Transfer shield strength
TBR = Tractor Beam Repulsors
HE = Hazard Emitters
TR = Tyken's Rift
GW = Gravity Well
EPtS = Emergency Power to Shields
EPtW = Emergency Power to Weapons
Aux2Sif = Aux to Structural Integrity field
When i have access to a comp that wants to run sto academy ill post the real thing
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I hate seeing people that can't trust someone. If you want a bridge officer with GW3 pm me in game, @simeion. I will be more than willing to train a boff of the exchange and give it to you. There is no reason you should go with out.
Thank you!! im not often on but i will be on tomorrow about 7pm EST..? i think? i dunno im boston side of the states.
Most of my time is spent on ESD so i can do a straight trade and trade back, im going to be spending a lot of time tomorrow trying to get a fleet with T5 comm aray to let me in so i can get yellowstones
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i currently have the Aventine and pretty much love that ship but i will buy the eng one couse yeh vesta refit
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I also use the full Vesta set, deflector phaser works just often enough for transformers in. ISE, kinetic reflector useful against one shot torps, and the heal field saves lives or gives me first place during crystalline entity.
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Shoulda got the 3-pack. This is why i always advocate 3-pack buys if you want one. I bought one Oddy and then wanted the others later on, worst regret was not getting the 3-pack all at once.
But the hull suits me, with the build i have and skills appointed i have 38-39k hull and 13-14k in shields...
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And my Sci toon has a very ugly drain build :cool:
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http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=usscoulson_0
I will post the others as i create them.
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Just goes to Tahiti and respawns? Why PH2 though, when PH1 does the job and would let you boost your extra TSS?
Risa actually.
But I guess i just did it because thats how it worked out. Plus i usually use a deflector with Science CD reduction.
As usual i can fiddle with it, i love fiddling with builds.
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Never been big with beams on the vesta, I use the aux cannons just to keep my aux power high. This allows more damage with the cannons and the abilities like gravity well and tractor beam. I have tried it, but always went back to the aux cannons. I do lose the target sub system ability, but I hardly ever use them.