I don't understand how this got through testing, or perhaps it wasn't even tested before going through the pipeline? Do you all really just add new art without bothering to see how it looks in game?
I don't understand how this got through testing, or perhaps it wasn't even tested before going through the pipeline? Do you all really just add new art without bothering to see how it looks in game?
Maybe they didn't have the man power or time to check every single map in the game? That is a lot of maps you know.
We knew it was going to be ugly in a lot of places. Testing wasn't an issue. It was decided that the benefit of adding it (and it looking good in many places) outweighed the negatives of it looking ugly in random spots.
Each frame will be double it's original dimensions. So instead of each frame being 512x256, it will be 1024x512. This should be a significant improvement in the look of the LCARS.
Part of the issue is that there are so many different textures and materials all over the game. We likely can't do this treatment to everything, but we can upres this texture that is used the most often throughout the game.
I'm not sure where to post this, so I apologize in advance if this is the wrong area. Whenever I submit a ticket I never get a response as if the ticket doesn't go through or something.
Since the Season 8 update, this is what I am personally experiencing.
Each frame will be double it's original dimensions. So instead of each frame being 512x256, it will be 1024x512. This should be a significant improvement in the look of the LCARS.
Part of the issue is that there are so many different textures and materials all over the game. We likely can't do this treatment to everything, but we can upres this texture that is used the most often throughout the game.
Update: I've replaced a fair number of old/blue materials with the new one. The only thing that's still blue LCARS on ESD is the Auction screens right now. Hopefully we can find time to spruce up a few of the other more common textures, but it should be better whenever it gets out to you again.
The ones i have seen look fine, but they dont look right. TNG was a very bright show, but ESD (as an example) isnt a very bright place. Therefore the new textures look kinda out of place.....
Sensor analysis 4077 has been apart of Star Trek for a very long time and even was mused in the seasons DVD menu. In that case it was scan analysis 4077.
I'm too lazy to find a place to post the screenshot but the Consoles in the Rotunda of SFA behind Viala have messed up Geo AND are using the old blue LCARS which is stretched cause of the broken Geo.
Just an update, I was able to check in a bunch of fixes for some of this stuff today. Hopefully it'll be in next week's patch.
- Got Thomas' newest version of the texture in the game (Less movement/switching)
- Updated a lot of the other materials that all used the same template to point to the new texture set. (This should make the new texture show up in more places)
- Went through all of the old LCARS panels I could find that are using the new texture now, and fixed up UVs to reduce crazy stretching. Most of these old consoles are shapes that don't match up to the texture (old or new) so there will e some stuff cut off, but I think it's still less offensive than the stretching/backwards stuff we saw before.
Note that there will still be blue LCARS in a lot of places (Old Bridges, etc.) Because these are other textures using different shapes and templates, they'll require their own revision to fix. I'm hoping we can do some of that, but it will have to come further down the line.
For now, when I ran through ESD, pretty much every panel has the new texture, with the main exception being the Auction panels which will still be blue.
Inside standard federation interior. (Interior set to Large at tailor)
Engineering Lab on the Engineering deck, 1 console in the corner Looks kinda warped and on the far right side there is a lot of black as though the graphics are missing for that area.
When facing that console in the engineering lab, turn around 180 degrees. The bottom of the panel on the wall seems to have the bottom part cut off a little
P.S. Love the new LCARS.
Edit: Main engineering. As you enter the room, it's directly to your left. Are the graphics updated for this thingy? It looks about the same. Then again, I don't visit main engineering often.
Federation shuttle interior. The large U shaped console at the back that gives access to the account bank, as well as the small panels on the outside and inside of the transporter thingy, have the new LCARS but the rest of the consoles are the old blue ones.
Wow zerobang. Some of those examples look truly HORRIBLE. Like the Engineering area of ESD, you got 2 identical looking consoles, yet the textures weren't updated on both. And those ridiculous looking pillars around ESD with 6 screens. First 2-3 screens I could possibly agree on, but who would be tall enough to access the upper 4-6 screens?
I would love to leave a constructive post in this thread, but ... (see my signature)
The one thing i can post / say is, i like the new LCARS very much (a thank you to Thomas), and i appreciate the implementation work (a thank you to Taco).
One of the generic consoles in Cardassia Prime Minisrty of Cultrue ( Tear of the Prophets)
Used in the objective deactvate primary forcefeild
Firstly LCARS on cardassia? secondly its poorly wrapped onto the console
( unfortunalty i don't have a screenshot)
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Maybe they didn't have the man power or time to check every single map in the game? That is a lot of maps you know.
Part of the issue is that there are so many different textures and materials all over the game. We likely can't do this treatment to everything, but we can upres this texture that is used the most often throughout the game.
Edit: LOOK AT MAH LCARS!
Since the Season 8 update, this is what I am personally experiencing.
http://imageshack.com/a/img607/4904/x9s7.png
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7373/kx3.png
It only happens on in the Beta Ursa sector, mostly on DS9 .
Are there injokes on that text we can't read, or is just gibberish?
Update: I've replaced a fair number of old/blue materials with the new one. The only thing that's still blue LCARS on ESD is the Auction screens right now. Hopefully we can find time to spruce up a few of the other more common textures, but it should be better whenever it gets out to you again.
https://picasaweb.google.com/107690288451082557730/STOLCARS
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Would be AWESOME! Like the Okuda-grams of old!
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Where is sensor analysis 4077?
Sensor analysis 4077 has been apart of Star Trek for a very long time and even was mused in the seasons DVD menu. In that case it was scan analysis 4077.
Can you make one for one of the larger displays?
Edit: Added for good measure.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070613230554/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/a/ad/Voyager_divergence_field.jpg/500px-Voyager_divergence_field.jpg
- Raith
- Got Thomas' newest version of the texture in the game (Less movement/switching)
- Updated a lot of the other materials that all used the same template to point to the new texture set. (This should make the new texture show up in more places)
- Went through all of the old LCARS panels I could find that are using the new texture now, and fixed up UVs to reduce crazy stretching. Most of these old consoles are shapes that don't match up to the texture (old or new) so there will e some stuff cut off, but I think it's still less offensive than the stretching/backwards stuff we saw before.
Note that there will still be blue LCARS in a lot of places (Old Bridges, etc.) Because these are other textures using different shapes and templates, they'll require their own revision to fix. I'm hoping we can do some of that, but it will have to come further down the line.
For now, when I ran through ESD, pretty much every panel has the new texture, with the main exception being the Auction panels which will still be blue.
Thanks for your patience with all of this.
Inside standard federation interior. (Interior set to Large at tailor)
Engineering Lab on the Engineering deck, 1 console in the corner
When facing that console in the engineering lab, turn around 180 degrees. The bottom of the panel on the wall seems to have the bottom part cut off a little
P.S. Love the new LCARS.
Edit: Main engineering. As you enter the room, it's directly to your left. Are the graphics updated for this thingy? It looks about the same. Then again, I don't visit main engineering often.
ah had the visibility not set to public *derp*
should work now
https://picasaweb.google.com/107690288451082557730/STOLCARS
This looks kinda blue, any chance this is going to be replaced too?
The one thing i can post / say is, i like the new LCARS very much (a thank you to Thomas), and i appreciate the implementation work (a thank you to Taco).
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ticket ID #2,104,721.
This bug was before at least 5 patches before season 8
Trade lines in sector jagged and curves line thought sector map as well not just this sector look at image closely
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ticket ID #2,104,731.
This bug was before at least 5 patches before season 8
ALL display sign in Deep space K-7 JAGGED
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This bug was before at least 5 patches before season 8
ALL HALLWAYS WHITE STRIPS ANd DENTS IN WALL
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ticket ID #2,104,773.
All ESD Hallways
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ticket ID #2,104,781.
Borg acting strange and invisible borg and invisible planet barrier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGDIsfJTorw
This thread is about LCARS textures, not any of that.
Huh of course it is:D but as u see the lcars are in some of the pictures the other one by mistake
Used in the objective deactvate primary forcefeild
Firstly LCARS on cardassia? secondly its poorly wrapped onto the console
( unfortunalty i don't have a screenshot)
http://i.imgur.com/33puKUQ.jpg - top screens still use old art; bottom screens are all the same
http://i.imgur.com/VgkhMxp.jpg - (mostly) proper LCARS to the right, old one to the left
http://i.imgur.com/B4Na0k1.jpg - closeup to the above, it's like they've got three different OS on their ship...
http://i.imgur.com/Sx7V6QG.jpg - mainly old art, with the only LCARS appearing next to the turbolift
Didn't check any other C-Store bridge, but I imagine they also may have issues like these.
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I'll check after the patch this morning. If they're still not in, something's up.