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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    anti leech and tractor webs galore. >_> now to log into my brel and start setting up some new boffs....

    Or the new science ship. Dual TBR, cycling tac teams (for the diplomat), maybe a doffed RSP (to survive long enough to activate stuff) and liberal use of aceton abilities. Won't get many kills, but any FAW-balls are not going to enjoy that.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Or the new science ship. Dual TBR, cycling tac teams (for the diplomat), maybe a doffed RSP (to survive long enough to activate stuff) and liberal use of aceton abilities. Won't get many kills, but any FAW-balls are not going to enjoy that.

    ya. theres a good chance both of my sci toons are going to pick that ship up, if anything just to have the option. ones a sciscort in a dhelan, and the other is a brel. i needed a real science ship that isnt a carrier, and finally ill have one on the kdf char
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  • atlantraatlantra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    With my current Gorn ship I'm at 295 flow capacitors currently without Doff assignment (320 with). With an science ship like the voth one, I could drain people into oblivion. Players could be facing -240 power drain with stacked drain skills, KDF's aceton console, plus polaron weapons, leech console, and the new drain duty officer.

    ...Best drain build in the history of Star Trek Online. Here I come. :cool:
    The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2013
    atlantra wrote: »
    With my current Gorn ship I'm at 295 flow capacitors currently without Doff assignment (320 with). With an science ship like the voth one, I could drain people into oblivion. Players could be facing -240 power drain with stacked drain skills, KDF's aceton console, plus polaron weapons, leech console, and the new drain duty officer.

    ...Best drain build in the history of Star Trek Online. Here I come. :cool:

    Ok, found everything. Man does it go sky high.

    1) 5 embassy flow caps = 159.5
    2) Rule 62 = 17.2
    3) Jem'hadar deflector = 26.2
    4) Maxed out skill = 99
    5) Trait that adds 10 = 10
    6) Tetryon amplification = 15.2

    It goes up to 327.1.
    You add the 2 hour buff and it's 352.1.
    You add in Insp leader, and it can go up to 382.1.
    You hit the t5 romulan rep, and it can go up to 482.1.
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Yeesh. That must be fun for all parties involved. Oh wait......
  • atlantraatlantra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    lucho80 wrote: »
    Lol, wait, I might have added wrong because I thought the max was around 286-7.

    1) 5 embassy flow caps
    2) Rule 62
    3) Jem'hadar deflector
    4) Maxed out skill
    5) Trait that adds 10

    Did I miss something or did I add wrong?

    http://webgel.net/bf/Dat%20drain.jpg
    You can use a deflector for more drain(26%), Tholian web mine and particle generator for more flow. The set adds it.
    The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • tabzentabzen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    agreed, I just want my borg lockbox. Theres really nothing worth while to get in the new lockbox.

    As much of a chance as the KDF getting science ships.
  • xlocutusofborgxxlocutusofborgx Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    tabzen wrote: »
    As much of a chance as the KDF getting science ships.

    wouldn't be any different then....

    Federation/KDF/Rom captains flying..

    cardassian ships, jemhadar,tholian,29th century temporal ships, ferengi, voth, suliban, and so on.

    And its totally work able too. After the events in voyager, there was the rebel borg that helped janeway with dealing with the tac cube, the sphere that was commanded by the kdf assimilated cpt. Sure cryptic could just say some of these ships managed to make there way back to sol and were fixed up to serve fed/kdf/rom cpts :P
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  • ladymyajhaladymyajha Member Posts: 1,428 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    The power creep just keeps going up and up and up, but will it ever stop?

    Yeah this. Now we have a ship capable of 8 beam weapons, and then tack on some fleet advanced swarmers, adding even more beams... tack on fire at will... and some of the new space items coming out that reduce energy drain on all systems... and we're talking some serious FAW hurt. Put an Engineer in this damn thing and it's even worse.

    It's gotten to the point practically where the C-store ships aren't worth purchasing anymore because they're so far behind the power curve, you can't put out the dps the dropbox ships can.

    Hell these things make the Avenger obsolute... and that thing just came out.

    What's next... the Voth City Ship as a playable ship?
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2013
    ladymyajha wrote: »
    Yeah this. Now we have a ship capable of 8 beam weapons, and then tack on some fleet advanced swarmers, adding even more beams... tack on fire at will... and some of the new space items coming out that reduce energy drain on all systems... and we're talking some serious FAW hurt. Put an Engineer in this damn thing and it's even worse.

    It's gotten to the point practically where the C-store ships aren't worth purchasing anymore because they're so far behind the power curve, you can't put out the dps the dropbox ships can.

    Hell these things make the Avenger obsolute... and that thing just came out.

    What's next... the Voth City Ship as a playable ship?

    Hence why they probably put in that drain ship and console. They had to balance things out somehow.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,896 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    im tired of ships with hangers this isn't battlestar online while some are ok and can live with it seems 9 out of 10 new ships have a hanger.

    Bastion Cruiser - Yes
    Palisade Science Vessel - No
    Obelisk - Yes
    Avenger - No
    Ar'Kif - Yes
    Scimitar - Yes
    Monbosh - No
    S'golth - No
    Tal Shiar Battlecruiser - No
    Tal Shiar Destroyer - No

    More like 4 out of 10
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Bastion Cruiser - Yes
    Palisade Science Vessel - No
    Obelisk - Yes
    Avenger - No
    Ar'Kif - Yes
    Scimitar - Yes
    Monbosh - No
    S'golth - No
    Tal Shiar Battlecruiser - No
    Tal Shiar Destroyer - No

    More like 4 out of 10

    Considering a year and a half ago there was only four........ :rolleyes:



    Actually, when did the Atrox come out? I don't remember....
  • foundrelicfoundrelic Member Posts: 1,380 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    No multifaction console this time? Well, that's different.


    THe Engineer ground trait looks like it could be fun.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    foundrelic wrote: »
    No multifaction console this time? Well, that's different.


    THe Engineer ground trait looks like it could be fun.

    And apparently no 3-piece set either. It seems they spent more time on the Dyson Sphere rather than the lockbox.



    A fact I am completely okay with. :)
  • projectfrontierprojectfrontier Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    rahmkota19 wrote: »
    Be patient. A Borg Lock Box is coming. Just wait for the last few weeks that the servers are up. Borg box coming as the final attempt to make some money before STO permanently shuts down.

    So I'm hoping that that box will come in, say, 28684668438604375834786 years. :D



    That's interesting, most purists want it to happen today.
  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Hey... if they do allow a T5 Connie... I'll replace my T2 and keep her just to look at. :cool:
    Granted the concession might be no Connie Refit skin, just Excalibur, Exeter, and *shudders* Vesper.

    Which would be a rip off and nobody would get it than. It's like cryptic is holding that skin away from T5 to keep it in JVC's spankbank.

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    edited November 2013
    It has been said multiple times that CBS said no. Cryptic probably would release a Fleet Retrofit Cruiser in a heartbeat knowing that people would buy it.
    We do have a gap in the Fleet Retrofit roster, but unfortunately people higher up the foodchain have spoken for now. Maybe that will change at some point.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    *John Van Citters.

    Please name other executives of CBS who has not said no.

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    edited November 2013
    If you're asking me... I'm just going by forum grapevine.
    I still wouldn't mind a T5 Connie, but everyone keeps demanding it and... I think that horse is now mashed potatoes.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    colored text = mod mode
  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    The Horse will be fracking liquid by the time I'm done.

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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    edited November 2013
    Mmm... yummy. Liquified horse. lol
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
    normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
    colored text = mod mode
  • ladymyajhaladymyajha Member Posts: 1,428 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    The Horse will be fracking liquid by the time I'm done.

    It's already liquid. Can't you get through your head that it's not coming, and just move on and deal with it. It's been years... YEARS and CBS has said no. Not Cryptic... CBS. You complaining and derailing every thread into a "CRY.. I want a T5 connie" thread is doing nothing more then making people NOT want a T5 Connie.

    You want to complain... go complain to CBS and post on their forums. Complaining here does no good... CBS, not Cryptic.. .not PWE... has said no.

    Do you honestly think PWE wouldn't put a T5 into the C-store for a ton of cash if they could? This is PWE who would put their own grandmothers into the C-store if they could get cash out of it.

    Go complain to CBS, and stop crying in the Cryptic forums about it. There's nothing they can do. Deal with it and move on with your lacking life.
  • captainbmoneycaptainbmoney Member Posts: 1,323 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    ladymyajha wrote: »
    It's already liquid. Can't you get through your head that it's not coming, and just move on and deal with it. It's been years... YEARS and CBS has said no. Not Cryptic... CBS. You complaining and derailing every thread into a "CRY.. I want a T5 connie" thread is doing nothing more then making people NOT want a T5 Connie.

    You want to complain... go complain to CBS and post on their forums. Complaining here does no good... CBS, not Cryptic.. .not PWE... has said no.

    Do you honestly think PWE wouldn't put a T5 into the C-store for a ton of cash if they could? This is PWE who would put their own grandmothers into the C-store if they could get cash out of it.

    Go complain to CBS, and stop crying in the Cryptic forums about it. There's nothing they can do. Deal with it and move on with your lacking life.

    Holy TRIBBLE bro. Why so serious?

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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,896 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    *John Van Citters.

    Please name other executives of CBS who has not said no.

    Yup...lets all hate a guy who prides logic over money! :P
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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited November 2013
    So in case people weren't paying attention: devs have announced:

    1) New cruiser with invincibility shield (100K damage to pop it)
    2) New science vessel with mobile aceton (another f you Klinks)
    3) New 2-piece set == free cloak
    4) New OP boffs

    I mean Jesus-jumping-Joseph. How many P2W items can you introduce in a 6 month period before you totally trash the game? First, it was Roms legacy packs, then Adapted cruisers, then Scimitars, then Elachi and hull busting weapons and most recently a 5 - forward weapon slot cruiser for Feds.

    "How is an honest Ferengi supposed to do business in a place like this?"

    I guess we are lucky they even made the featured episode with Worf. Oops ... I forgot that is nothing more than advertisement for their latest lock box carrier. GG Cryptic. :rolleyes:
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    That horse has been liquefied, burned, Crystallized, Snorted, and Pooped.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,669 Community Moderator
    edited November 2013
    ROFLMAO neoakiraii... you and your sigs bring a nice, shiny light to conversations.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
    normal text = me speaking as fellow formite
    colored text = mod mode
  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited November 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    That horse has been liquefied, burned, Crystallized, Snorted, and Pooped.

    You know Dukat ... I really can't tell if you are fatalist or just a trouble maker. ;)
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2013
    macronius wrote: »
    So in case people weren't paying attention: devs have announced:

    1) New cruiser with invincibility shield (100K damage to pop it)
    2) New science vessel with mobile aceton (another f you Klinks)
    3) New 2-piece set == free cloak
    4) New OP boffs

    I mean Jesus-jumping-Joseph. How many P2W items can you introduce in a 6 month period before you totally trash the game? First, it was Roms legacy packs, then Adapted cruisers, then Scimitars, then Elachi and hull busting weapons and most recently a 5 - forward weapon slot cruiser for Feds.

    "How is an honest Ferengi supposed to do business in a place like this?"

    I guess we are lucky they even made the featured episode with Worf. Oops ... I forgot that is nothing more than advertisement for their latest lock box carrier. GG Cryptic. :rolleyes:

    You forgot to mention, the sci ship can also use the "invincibility shield" (Feedback pulse).
    Also, it's new doffs, not boffs.
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