They threw away their best chance of balancing out the FED/KDF player base with the Romulan Faction, but they choose to give away one of the greatest boons to the KDF faction upon release of said Romulan Faction. I am of course referring to the Plasmonic Leech.
So why would anyone align their new Romulan character with the KDf and have to spend ZEN to get something they can't use till level 20, when they could grab it off the exchange for EC and use at level 1.
Not only that, but since doffs are factional based, it means their KDF Romulan character will cost them more EC to setup.
The fix is in boys...
You know Cryptic has Jumped the Proverbial Shark when they introduced Tractor Pulling to Star Trek Online!
They threw away their best chance of balancing out the FED/KDF player base with the Romulan Faction, but they choose to give away one of the greatest boons to the KDF faction upon release of said Romulan Faction. I am of course referring to the Plasmonic Leech.
So why would anyone align their new Romulan character with the KDf and have to spend ZEN to get something they can't use till level 20, when they could grab it off the exchange for EC and use at level 1.
Not only that, but since doffs are factional based, it means their KDF Romulan character will cost them more EC to setup.
The fix is in boys...
Spot on observations. One of the biggest draws to the kdf was that despite the higher doff prices, they had the excellent leech console and great marauding missions. With the leech available for ec on the fed side, the kdf suddenly becomes a lot less attractive. Also don't forget that the subspace jump console was also given away to the Feds.
For starters, there are 18 ESD instances vs 4 first city instances open atm.
That's because the Feds. have a bunch of people that just sit at ESD the whole day and troll zone chat, while most of the KDF players are in the PvP and battlezones. ( jk:P, with maybe a pinch of truth )
That's because the Feds. have a bunch of people that just sit at ESD the whole day and troll zone chat, while most of the KDF players are in the PvP and battlezones. ( jk:P, with maybe a pinch of truth )
I'd say there is a pinch of the truth there. A lot of people love to just plop their butts down in ESD and either chat via zone-chat or just spam TRIBBLE. That probably accounts for a few instances worth of population.
Then there's the fact that the KDF avoids doing this completely. You go to Qo'noS for a few reasons: Boff trainer, hard-to-find vendor, or a mission that requires you to be on Qo'noS at some point. Everything else can be handled at other locations, and a lot of KDF like to do it that way, I think. I, for example, regularly use Ganalda station for my more routine needs. If I need to just scrap some vendor trash, I can call up the freighter to do that. I don't find much call for going to Qo'noS.
ESD is much more of a chatter and traffic hub. Yeah, part of it is probably because the Federation still has a higher population. This has never been in dispute. But other parts are because the Federation has more than its share of chat-spammers, comedians, and other people who really like to use the zone chat. It's the same with DS9.
Due to the problem with how the foundry daily used to be where people had about near 100 characters on an account just for that. They would actually need to go on data on active time played along with those characters that are just out there to turn in contraband as well. The faction is always going to be smaller than fed but when a long time player like myself goes into over 20 ques a day of kdf only missions and comes across tons of level 50's that I've never seen before you can definately tell its grown from the days where they called us the 18% when it might have been once a week that you saw another player around qo'nos.
How about creating a thread that doesn't turn KDF players away by implying that the server hates them?
I play KDF because I like doing so, but I facepalm every time I see players jump ship due to the latest "Cryptic hates us, KDF sucks" thread.
We've certainly had enough vinegar, it's obviously not working, try honey. By enticing players to come over to the KDF side and have fun, Cryptic would have no choice other than to create content where the players are. The formula is very simple, cryptic has limited resources, most of them are directed where the playerbase is.
I'm actually surprised that KDF gets as much as it does considering how much complaining is generated in contrast to Fed side. Personally I wouldn't waste time creating content for players who will only whine and complain anyway and devote my time elsewhere. But the developers for Cryptic are saints apparently and do so anyway.
If anyone is interested, rather than creating a number to justify ones own poor attitude, try getting more players KDF side.
True! I agree with this analysis, completely.
Plus... I would also point out that all things Klingon related are naturally a "minority" on the Star Trek shows themselves. Because ultimately Star Trek is the story of the future of humanity, told from that perspective.
But, that doesn't mean that the game STO should do that as well, pretty much the opposite I would say. With the greater narrative space and interactive/immersive tools that a videogame can offer, you can actually LIVE the story of Star Trek from different perspectives! So what I'm trying to say here is, agreeing with the quoted, ppl should play KDF or RR side because it just is cool to experience STO's world from a different point of view and living the great stories that have been written specifically for them (thank Kahless for LoR exp.).
At the same time, while the numbers of interested players go up, Cryptic could jump on the chance to expand on, say, what it means to live and fight in the KDF. I suspect many newcomers to the game aren't attracted to the KDF because of the overwhelming sterotype of what being a "Klingon" is. They maybe think they know enough about that and don't bother exploring.
If they were treated to a fresh, more diverse, take on what being a citizen of the Empire means, (on top of everything there already is) I think they would be more interested in giving it a try.
I have to say that for instance the new improved klingon storyline and the possibility to start from lvl one, is what made me play the faction. I just wasn't attracted enough to try it before that, when you couldn't even start from lvl 1.
Cheers to the devs, keep up the good work, I'm sure more KDF players will pop up!!
In this game the Federation has slaughtered far more people than the KDF ever could have. And the KDF has been right about the Undine threat all along. Really, the KDF has certainly shown themselves to be the more sensible group.
Anyway, the game is what you make of it. Play the game in a way which reflects whatever you think it means to be KDF.
In this game the Federation has slaughtered far more people than the KDF ever could have. And the KDF has been right about the Undine threat all along. Really, the KDF has certainly shown themselves to be the more sensible group.
Anyway, the game is what you make of it. Play the game in a way which reflects whatever you think it means to be KDF.
Lets just hope that they don't retcon the story to make the feds come out smelling like roses with the seemingly impending peace.
All I can say is that I have two toons; Fed and KDF. Both are active toons because I switch between them whenever I log into the game.
However, when I get around to starting a Romulan toon then one of the two will need to go into an inactive state since I do not have the time to advance three different toons every time I log into the game.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
FED-ONS dont count. Take ur 2 day old no gear no rep TRIBBLE toon somewhere else. We dont want any TRIBBLE noobs swelling our ranks. Ive too many of those types in my fleet.
True allegiance.. ought to mean something. Stay tuned for a real Declaration for those who have what it takes and the history to back it up.
The high council of true elders will determine what amounts to loyalty. Expect ways to be judged including but not limited:
total play time on kdf vs fed (u need a 10-1 ratio to be counted.)
number of times completed killed 10 fed ships mission (100 at least)
a protfolio of screenshots/videos/ after action reports/ klingon operas regaling your glory
a screen shot of your login screen (u have only 1 kdf and 17 cat fed gound toons?)
live battle tests flying a pure kdf ship (no lockboxes)
bop buffs comin soon, it will be easy to seperate the bandwagon jumpers from the true loyalists!
/played 350 days kdf/ 7 days fed
My main is KDF Sci in a B'rel. I also have a Romulan (KDF) Tac with some Rep, and I'm undecided between the T'varo and the Ar'kif right now (probably will stick with the Ar'kif due to full Decloaking bonuses).
I'm leveling up a Fed Eng (to use the terribad Defiant although I'm using a Mirror Heavy Cruiser to finish the last bit before lvl 50), so that will be my trinity of Sci, Tac, Eng.
Other Lvl 50s... I have a Fed Sci, KDF Eng, and KDF Tac with no Rep. I would use my KDF Eng, but I would rather have one with each faction, especially because I've already burned Zen for Starfleet trinkets.
I must say that Starfleet has nice uniforms! That's the biggest regret with KDF side... uniforms
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I suppose that's something, at least. Don't think it'll change anything in regards to how Cryptic treats the KDF faction, though.
Obviously.
Damn... I may have to change my fleet-name from 18 Percent...:rolleyes:
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So why would anyone align their new Romulan character with the KDf and have to spend ZEN to get something they can't use till level 20, when they could grab it off the exchange for EC and use at level 1.
Not only that, but since doffs are factional based, it means their KDF Romulan character will cost them more EC to setup.
The fix is in boys...
Spot on observations. One of the biggest draws to the kdf was that despite the higher doff prices, they had the excellent leech console and great marauding missions. With the leech available for ec on the fed side, the kdf suddenly becomes a lot less attractive. Also don't forget that the subspace jump console was also given away to the Feds.
That's because the Feds. have a bunch of people that just sit at ESD the whole day and troll zone chat, while most of the KDF players are in the PvP and battlezones.
I'd say there is a pinch of the truth there. A lot of people love to just plop their butts down in ESD and either chat via zone-chat or just spam TRIBBLE. That probably accounts for a few instances worth of population.
Then there's the fact that the KDF avoids doing this completely. You go to Qo'noS for a few reasons: Boff trainer, hard-to-find vendor, or a mission that requires you to be on Qo'noS at some point. Everything else can be handled at other locations, and a lot of KDF like to do it that way, I think. I, for example, regularly use Ganalda station for my more routine needs. If I need to just scrap some vendor trash, I can call up the freighter to do that. I don't find much call for going to Qo'noS.
ESD is much more of a chatter and traffic hub. Yeah, part of it is probably because the Federation still has a higher population. This has never been in dispute. But other parts are because the Federation has more than its share of chat-spammers, comedians, and other people who really like to use the zone chat. It's the same with DS9.
True! I agree with this analysis, completely.
Plus... I would also point out that all things Klingon related are naturally a "minority" on the Star Trek shows themselves. Because ultimately Star Trek is the story of the future of humanity, told from that perspective.
But, that doesn't mean that the game STO should do that as well, pretty much the opposite I would say. With the greater narrative space and interactive/immersive tools that a videogame can offer, you can actually LIVE the story of Star Trek from different perspectives! So what I'm trying to say here is, agreeing with the quoted, ppl should play KDF or RR side because it just is cool to experience STO's world from a different point of view and living the great stories that have been written specifically for them (thank Kahless for LoR exp.).
At the same time, while the numbers of interested players go up, Cryptic could jump on the chance to expand on, say, what it means to live and fight in the KDF. I suspect many newcomers to the game aren't attracted to the KDF because of the overwhelming sterotype of what being a "Klingon" is. They maybe think they know enough about that and don't bother exploring.
If they were treated to a fresh, more diverse, take on what being a citizen of the Empire means, (on top of everything there already is) I think they would be more interested in giving it a try.
I have to say that for instance the new improved klingon storyline and the possibility to start from lvl one, is what made me play the faction. I just wasn't attracted enough to try it before that, when you couldn't even start from lvl 1.
Cheers to the devs, keep up the good work, I'm sure more KDF players will pop up!!
In this game the Federation has slaughtered far more people than the KDF ever could have. And the KDF has been right about the Undine threat all along. Really, the KDF has certainly shown themselves to be the more sensible group.
Anyway, the game is what you make of it. Play the game in a way which reflects whatever you think it means to be KDF.
Lets just hope that they don't retcon the story to make the feds come out smelling like roses with the seemingly impending peace.
Also in before the lock.
Oh my eyes! :eek:
Where's the bleach?!
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
However, when I get around to starting a Romulan toon then one of the two will need to go into an inactive state since I do not have the time to advance three different toons every time I log into the game.
That is precisely the worry I have. Somehow twisting or changing the story to still make the Feds the 'right' party somehow.
FED-ONS dont count. Take ur 2 day old no gear no rep TRIBBLE toon somewhere else. We dont want any TRIBBLE noobs swelling our ranks. Ive too many of those types in my fleet.
True allegiance.. ought to mean something. Stay tuned for a real Declaration for those who have what it takes and the history to back it up.
The high council of true elders will determine what amounts to loyalty. Expect ways to be judged including but not limited:
total play time on kdf vs fed (u need a 10-1 ratio to be counted.)
number of times completed killed 10 fed ships mission (100 at least)
a protfolio of screenshots/videos/ after action reports/ klingon operas regaling your glory
a screen shot of your login screen (u have only 1 kdf and 17 cat fed gound toons?)
live battle tests flying a pure kdf ship (no lockboxes)
bop buffs comin soon, it will be easy to seperate the bandwagon jumpers from the true loyalists!
/played 350 days kdf/ 7 days fed
I'm leveling up a Fed Eng (to use the terribad Defiant
Other Lvl 50s... I have a Fed Sci, KDF Eng, and KDF Tac with no Rep. I would use my KDF Eng, but I would rather have one with each faction, especially because I've already burned Zen for Starfleet trinkets.
I must say that Starfleet has nice uniforms! That's the biggest regret with KDF side... uniforms
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No, but you might get one for not continuing to post in a months-old thread.
@realmini: TRIBBLE you.
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Yes, please. Also I was disappointed after reading the thread title, only to find out that this has NOTHING to do with klingon music ! :mad::D:o