Trouble there is I wouldn't be surprised to see a Son's lockbox at some point...
I actually fear the with the Cardassian and Domnion Lockbox they've killed off any hope for an actual faction that features these races permanently...remember they didn't put the Warbird into a lockbox to reserve it for a Romulan faction.
So if the reverse is true...it's already too late.:(
the more people will ask for cardassians the more chances are to get them. if there are pople who are willing to spend enough money on their cardassian characters to make cardassians profitable than there will be cardassians. if not there wont be any.
romualns are there since tos and i think are still way more popular than cardassian. cardassian did get a lot of attention in ds9, but thats about all. so im not sure that they are popular enough to be added in game. anyway i would like to see real independent romulans before cardassian.
HMM, how about Son'a for lifers instead of Liberated Borg <insert_species_name_here>?
Liking this idea as I'm sick of 'Borg. Also a lib borg vorta/jem'hadar would just be a stretch too far for me.
I actually fear the with the Cardassian and Domnion Lockbox they've killed off any hope for an actual faction that features these races permanently...remember they didn't put the Warbird into a lockbox to reserve it for a Romulan faction.
So if the reverse is true...it's already too late.:(
Quoted for truth. Sadly, I fear this is the case as well, hence the idea for a New Dominion using ships other than the established normal Dominion ships. I'd like to see them progress the ship design a little (the "beetle" look for the JHAS was great) by following the likely path of "bug" ships.
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I actually fear the with the Cardassian and Domnion Lockbox they've killed off any hope for an actual faction that features these races permanently...remember they didn't put the Warbird into a lockbox to reserve it for a Romulan faction.
So if the reverse is true...it's already too late.:(
I think you might be wrong about this. I can't shake this gut feeling I have that they're working on the details on the Cardassian faction as we speak.
The release of 1 ship doesn't have to mean anything if they firmly decide on that they want Cardassians next. However, I believe you're right about the Dominion, that ship has sailed.
I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but just a few points what encourages me to believe this:
- The initial idea for STO looong time ago, at the beginings, was to have 4 factions. Cardassians were the fourth, there were even images portraying that.
- During the "Not Season 8" countdown when we all knew that it had something to do with Romulans, but noone knew what exactly, people through datamining pulled out a Romulan icon attached to a sort of interface that said "Choose faction: Romulan". Those people who found that out, reported that there was a fourth link stating - "Choose faction: Cardassian", with the difference that it was not linked to a Cardassian icon, but to a empty placeholder.
- Mr.Stahl has said on numerous occassions that he feels their (Cryptic's) biggest mistake in STO was releasing the Galor in a lockbox. However:
- It was an 'Ask Cryptic', I don't remember the particular one, I think it was from Feb.2013 - Mr.Stahl was asked about adding the original Romulan head ridges and the unique Cardassian hair styles that NPCs have throughout the game to the alien creator. His response was that they have no intention of making those availible because they're saving them for a point in future when those species become playable.
- The Cardassians already have 3 sector blocks in STO, more than the Klingon Empire.
- The Cardassian story fits perfectly in Cryptic's intended way of intorducing new factions.
- And last but not least, we've been hearing subtle suggestions from the Cryptic devs. that next year about the same time that LoR was released, there could be a new expansion in STO. I believe that expansion for Cryptic = new faction, otherwise they'd call it a season. If they're really considering this, the only species I can see them working on in that time frame is Cardassians. Everything else would need much more time to work on IMHO.
Do I think that next year is too early for another faction? Yeah, sure, i think it's a bit too soon. But don't be suprised if you see me in a Keldon sooner rather than later.
the more people will ask for cardassians the more chances are to get them. if there are pople who are willing to spend enough money on their cardassian characters to make cardassians profitable than there will be cardassians. if not there wont be any.
romualns are there since tos and i think are still way more popular than cardassian. cardassian did get a lot of attention in ds9, but thats about all. so im not sure that they are popular enough to be added in game. anyway i would like to see real independent romulans before cardassian.
I've made clear before that if they make a Cardassian faction, I'd buy the 'Cardassian Legacy Pack' in a heartbeat, without a second thought.
If they make it so I can receive my orders from Garak, furthermore if they could get Andrew Robinson to do the VO I'd buy every single Cardassian item they ever put in this game to sell. Just out of respect for that move and out of support.
There was a thread recently about what are the Top 10 favourite Trek species, and I was pleasantly suprised how many people put the Cardassians in the Top 3. There definitely is a fanbase for the Cardassians, it's not very large, but it's niche. Those people that want the Cardassians will probably buy everything availibe for them to support the faction.
Also most of those people are aware that they are not by any standard a majority compared to Klingon and Romulan fans, not to mention the Federation, so you won't see them constantly whining about anything and everything in STO. I believe that most of them will be just happy to fly a Galor or Keldon with a proper Cardassian (not alien) captain, in a proper uniform, behind a yellow-ish interface and drink a bottle of Kanar and share stories every now and then with Garak.
I know I'd love the opportunity to fly a Galor, there's something about the design of that ship that's extrelemy appealing to me. I haven't done it yet because making an 'alien Cardassian' just doesn't feel right for me. I'm patiently waiting for the day when I'll be able to fulfill this wish of mine.
I think you might be wrong about this. I can't shake this gut feeling I have that they're working on the details on the Cardassian faction as we speak.
The release of 1 ship doesn't have to mean anything if they firmly decide on that they want Cardassians next. However, I believe you're right about the Dominion, that ship has sailed.
I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but just a few points what encourages me to believe this:
- The initial idea for STO looong time ago, at the beginings, was to have 4 factions. Cardassians were the fourth, there were even images portraying that.
- During the "Not Season 8" countdown when we all knew that it had something to do with Romulans, but noone knew what exactly, people through datamining pulled out a Romulan icon attached to a sort of interface that said "Choose faction: Romulan". Those people who found that out, reported that there was a fourth link stating - "Choose faction: Cardassian", with the difference that it was not linked to a Cardassian icon, but to a empty placeholder.
- Mr.Stahl has said on numerous occassions that he feels their (Cryptic's) biggest mistake in STO was releasing the Galor in a lockbox. However:
- It was an 'Ask Cryptic', I don't remember the particular one, I think it was from Feb.2013 - Mr.Stahl was asked about adding the original Romulan head ridges and the unique Cardassian hair styles that NPCs have throughout the game to the alien creator. His response was that they have no intention of making those availible because they're saving them for a point in future when those species become playable.
- The Cardassians already have 3 sector blocks in STO, more than the Klingon Empire.
- The Cardassian story fits perfectly in Cryptic's intended way of intorducing new factions.
- And last but not least, we've been hearing subtle suggestions from the Cryptic devs. that next year about the same time that LoR was released, there could be a new expansion in STO. I believe that expansion for Cryptic = new faction, otherwise they'd call it a season. If they're really considering this, the only species I can see them working on in that time frame is Cardassians. Everything else would need much more time to work on IMHO.
Do I think that next year is too early for another faction? Yeah, sure, i think it's a bit too soon. But don't be suprised if you see me in a Keldon sooner rather than later.
Do so very much hope you're right about this...
Oh, and back when there was talk about Cardassian and Dominion ships in lockboxes, we warned them about this...we compared it to World of Tanks and Navy Field...where they ran into the exact same problem...but hey...who are we to actually know something right?
[just to add a tiny little detail: when we count the Domionion and the Cardassians together they already released 3 of em]
Oh, and back when there was talk about Cardassian and Dominion ships in lockboxes, we warned them about this...we compared it to World of Tanks and Navy Field...where they ran into the exact same problem...but hey...who are we to actually know something right?
[just to add a tiny little detail: when we count the Domionion and the Cardassians together they already released 3 of em]
Actually 4, if you count like that - Galor, JHAS, Jem'Hadar HEC, Jem Dread.
I said 1, because I only take the Galor into consideration. I strongly believe that there's no way the Cardassian Union will ever again be related with the Dominion after what happened at the end of DS9. Especially after Cardassians essentially throwing out the opressive military regime and going back to the roots of their civilization and forming a new government lead by the Detapa Council. So, I can't see a unified Cardassian/Domionion faction is STO, but a Cardassian only.
The Dominion already lost 3 of their ships to lockboxes, so I can't see them becomming a faction. Furthermore, you can't really shoehorn a superpower dominating a whole quadrant like the Dominion is into allying with the Federation and the Klingon Empire. That would be laughable. Some species/factions should remain a mysterious and powerfull enemy without being watered down and I believe that this is the destiny of the Dominion in STO.
I dunno... are pansified Romulans any better? Are a subjugated, broken, beaten from a war people like the Cardassians begging for Federation scraps any better, either?
You have the goody-two-shoes Federation in STO.
You have the aggressive, warlike Klingon Empire in STO.
In less than a month, we're going to have My Little Pony Romulan "Empire" on Holodeck with their Epohhs that they're so worried about (Federation Lite v2.0). Never mind that they can't even control where their people and warships are going off to die in causes not their Empire's own.
And a peaceful, broken Cardassia living with the same ideals? (Federation Lite v2.5)
Taking quadrant rivals and making them weak, pansified pushovers?
Rofl your funny guy why don't you try putting your self in there shoes.. sometimes it good to lay back and hold to rebuild.. They had a lot of peace treaty's in wars why to rebuild takes time ... rome was not build in one day War is costly one mistake you mess up and sometimes you have to fall back and retreat to rebuild make Alliances. I find nothing wrong with them its just how war works for sto . if you don't like it sadly don't play them
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HMM, how about Son'a for lifers instead of Liberated Borg <insert_species_name_here>?
I actually fear the with the Cardassian and Domnion Lockbox they've killed off any hope for an actual faction that features these races permanently...remember they didn't put the Warbird into a lockbox to reserve it for a Romulan faction.
So if the reverse is true...it's already too late.:(
romualns are there since tos and i think are still way more popular than cardassian. cardassian did get a lot of attention in ds9, but thats about all. so im not sure that they are popular enough to be added in game. anyway i would like to see real independent romulans before cardassian.
Quoted for truth. Sadly, I fear this is the case as well, hence the idea for a New Dominion using ships other than the established normal Dominion ships. I'd like to see them progress the ship design a little (the "beetle" look for the JHAS was great) by following the likely path of "bug" ships.
Jo Cox 22.6.1974 - 16.6.2016
I have always hoped to play a member of the Obsidian Order!
When they do enter, I just pray that the LoR approach is not applied to this faction.
STO needs some villians.
Right now Star Trek seems to be a bit too much 60's love child fever for me.
I think you might be wrong about this. I can't shake this gut feeling I have that they're working on the details on the Cardassian faction as we speak.
The release of 1 ship doesn't have to mean anything if they firmly decide on that they want Cardassians next. However, I believe you're right about the Dominion, that ship has sailed.
I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but just a few points what encourages me to believe this:
- The initial idea for STO looong time ago, at the beginings, was to have 4 factions. Cardassians were the fourth, there were even images portraying that.
- During the "Not Season 8" countdown when we all knew that it had something to do with Romulans, but noone knew what exactly, people through datamining pulled out a Romulan icon attached to a sort of interface that said "Choose faction: Romulan". Those people who found that out, reported that there was a fourth link stating - "Choose faction: Cardassian", with the difference that it was not linked to a Cardassian icon, but to a empty placeholder.
- Mr.Stahl has said on numerous occassions that he feels their (Cryptic's) biggest mistake in STO was releasing the Galor in a lockbox. However:
- It was an 'Ask Cryptic', I don't remember the particular one, I think it was from Feb.2013 - Mr.Stahl was asked about adding the original Romulan head ridges and the unique Cardassian hair styles that NPCs have throughout the game to the alien creator. His response was that they have no intention of making those availible because they're saving them for a point in future when those species become playable.
- The Cardassians already have 3 sector blocks in STO, more than the Klingon Empire.
- The Cardassian story fits perfectly in Cryptic's intended way of intorducing new factions.
- And last but not least, we've been hearing subtle suggestions from the Cryptic devs. that next year about the same time that LoR was released, there could be a new expansion in STO. I believe that expansion for Cryptic = new faction, otherwise they'd call it a season. If they're really considering this, the only species I can see them working on in that time frame is Cardassians. Everything else would need much more time to work on IMHO.
Do I think that next year is too early for another faction? Yeah, sure, i think it's a bit too soon. But don't be suprised if you see me in a Keldon sooner rather than later.
I've made clear before that if they make a Cardassian faction, I'd buy the 'Cardassian Legacy Pack' in a heartbeat, without a second thought.
If they make it so I can receive my orders from Garak, furthermore if they could get Andrew Robinson to do the VO I'd buy every single Cardassian item they ever put in this game to sell. Just out of respect for that move and out of support.
There was a thread recently about what are the Top 10 favourite Trek species, and I was pleasantly suprised how many people put the Cardassians in the Top 3. There definitely is a fanbase for the Cardassians, it's not very large, but it's niche. Those people that want the Cardassians will probably buy everything availibe for them to support the faction.
Also most of those people are aware that they are not by any standard a majority compared to Klingon and Romulan fans, not to mention the Federation, so you won't see them constantly whining about anything and everything in STO. I believe that most of them will be just happy to fly a Galor or Keldon with a proper Cardassian (not alien) captain, in a proper uniform, behind a yellow-ish interface and drink a bottle of Kanar and share stories every now and then with Garak.
I know I'd love the opportunity to fly a Galor, there's something about the design of that ship that's extrelemy appealing to me. I haven't done it yet because making an 'alien Cardassian' just doesn't feel right for me. I'm patiently waiting for the day when I'll be able to fulfill this wish of mine.
Do so very much hope you're right about this...
Oh, and back when there was talk about Cardassian and Dominion ships in lockboxes, we warned them about this...we compared it to World of Tanks and Navy Field...where they ran into the exact same problem...but hey...who are we to actually know something right?
[just to add a tiny little detail: when we count the Domionion and the Cardassians together they already released 3 of em]
Actually 4, if you count like that - Galor, JHAS, Jem'Hadar HEC, Jem Dread.
I said 1, because I only take the Galor into consideration. I strongly believe that there's no way the Cardassian Union will ever again be related with the Dominion after what happened at the end of DS9. Especially after Cardassians essentially throwing out the opressive military regime and going back to the roots of their civilization and forming a new government lead by the Detapa Council. So, I can't see a unified Cardassian/Domionion faction is STO, but a Cardassian only.
The Dominion already lost 3 of their ships to lockboxes, so I can't see them becomming a faction. Furthermore, you can't really shoehorn a superpower dominating a whole quadrant like the Dominion is into allying with the Federation and the Klingon Empire. That would be laughable. Some species/factions should remain a mysterious and powerfull enemy without being watered down and I believe that this is the destiny of the Dominion in STO.
Rofl your funny guy
A more current topic regarding Cardassians as a faction can be found here;
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=887591
^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...