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jagdhippiesjagdhippies Member Posts: 676 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Federation Discussion
Seriously, why can't I change the colors on my fleet avenger?! I tried all of the skins and neither of them would show any color changes.
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  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Probably the ship tailor bug. Push "random" and try again.
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  • jagdhippiesjagdhippies Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I will give that a try, thanks
    My carrier is more powerful than your gal-dread
  • unboundinfernounboundinferno Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Sounds akin to a glitch I've had with my Oddy.

    I've got to click the preset plan on the left to "reset" the ship. Then I can freely modify the color scheme.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    There are no presets on the Avenger but random works.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You can try to make the ugliness that we call the new "Avenger" into a sort of TRIBBLE child of an Intrepid, and paint it white / light grey. And if you try to fool yourself REALLY hard, you may believe it. Then you realize, no matter what, it's an ugly Avenger ship model.
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  • veritech05veritech05 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You can see what I have done to beautify my beast, the U.S.S Basilisk on The Black Ocean's Facebook under the album Star Trek Online.
  • sevmragesevmrage Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You're advertising that black ocean thing pretty hard, aren't you?
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  • veritech05veritech05 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    sevmrage wrote: »
    You're advertising that black ocean thing pretty hard, aren't you?

    Its where I put pictures of my Star Trek Online adventures. I love Star Trek Online (actually much more that I liked the precious Trek on TV. Our site does Sci Fi Wargaming video and tabletop so its a great fit.

    If I could have just posted up a pic here I would have. Since I'm forced to link then...

    We are going to be doing much more Trek there now. Come take a look.
  • sevmragesevmrage Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I see. I wondered about that. I took a look at your website there, not a hint of Trek anywhere to be found, it was related to a different sci-fi IP.

    Another option would be for you to use an image host, like Photobucket. code isn't allowed, but you can always provide a direct link.
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  • veritech05veritech05 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    sevmrage wrote: »
    I see. I wondered about that. I took a look at your website there, not a hint of Trek anywhere to be found, it was related to a different sci-fi IP.

    The Trek stuff is all over our Facebook page. The staff loves the new Star Trek, we support Star Trek: Attack Wing and I recently have been adding Star Trek Online. We also cover many other Sci Fi genres.
  • jagdhippiesjagdhippies Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The randomize button totally cleared it up.
    You can try to make the ugliness that we call the new "Avenger" into a sort of TRIBBLE child of an Intrepid, and paint it white / light grey. And if you try to fool yourself REALLY hard, you may believe it. Then you realize, no matter what, it's an ugly Avenger ship model.

    Haters gonna hate. The avenger is no uglier than the defiant or the ktinga. Not every ship needs the smooth lines of the galaxy class.
    My carrier is more powerful than your gal-dread
  • jagdhippiesjagdhippies Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    BTW thanks everyone.
    My carrier is more powerful than your gal-dread
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Oh, the Avenger is definitely ugly. And you know what? It's supposed to be that way. It's a ship that says "This is a bad thing to be in front of". That's the way it's meant to be. It characterizes the Fedling attitude that war is not glamorous or glorious. War is an ugly business, and the Avenger is an ugly warship.
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  • coffeemikecoffeemike Member Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    This is our version of Admiral Marcus' Dreadnought Class USS Vengeance minus a Khan Doff and an open space ship-to-ship jump to switch out active ships to use. Just like how it looks nothing graceful like the alt reality Constitution Class USS Enterprise, our Avenger looks nothing graceful like our Odyssey Class USS Enterprise-F except it looks more like a Vesta Class on steroids. And this time the sizes are reversed.

    I am still waiting for another Fed ship design that's a smaller cruiser/escort/sci mix like the Chimera Class but I have enough ships to play with.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The randomize button totally cleared it up.



    Haters gonna hate. The avenger is no uglier than the defiant or the ktinga. Not every ship needs the smooth lines of the galaxy class.

    No they didn't. That's why the Connie-refit is still beautiful after 20+ years since the last TOS-crew movie and it's anything but a "smooth" design like the Galaxy and TNG era ships. But it IS graceful and a classic Star Trek design and the face of the franchise for decades :D

    And you are wrong. The Avenger IS much uglier than the design of the Defiant, and does not compare to the classic look of the K'T'Inga. Whether you use the K'T'Inga in TOS D-7 style or the later versions... it still looks better.

    Face it. The Avenger is just an ugly ship and there's no going around it no matter how much you randomize, how many times you try to repaint it, no matter how much you try to fool yourself that it looks good.

    It's just an ugly ship.
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It's just an ugly ship.

    Thanks for forcibly transplanting your opinion over the top of mine.
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  • coffeemikecoffeemike Member Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The Avenger differs from the design aesthetics we have become used to since TOS and TNG eras. The ships designed for the 2409 era like the Oddy still reflect the design cues from even the original USS Enterprise but have the lines from TNG thru VOY.

    I'm def not a fan of the Avenger look, hence why I didn't buy it when it was released for purchase. The Oddy for me at least has very familiar cues to the USS Enterprise-D, the ship I grew up with. While the Avenger has the basic standard design layout from Matt Jeffries from 40 years ago (saucer, secondary hull, 2 nacelles with pylons, no neck tho), the lines or lack thereof make me wonder where the inspiration came from... at least in canon Starfleet ship design. To me, it's a Vesta Class on steroids when looking at it.

    The real reason I think is just that they wanted to make a Fed Battlecruiser like the Vengeance from Star Trek Into Darkness. I just wished they used the actual layout the ship had (saucer, neck, secondary hull, 2 nacelles on pylons) and used the design of the Tier 2 level cruisers like the Excalibur Class instead. The look of a beefed up, blocky version of a Vesta Class just looks a bit odd to me, not to mention that the ship silhouette from far away can be mistaken for the Vesta. I have many times since the ship came out.

    This is why I was hoping we could use the Galaxy Class Dreadnought skin on the Avenger but when I saw the official stats, I decided to not buy this ship. I buy ships, like many here, based on if they fall in love with it at first sight. At least the Oddy, and I keep going back to this reference, there was a certain familiar feeling when looking at her. Its that feeling we get like when we see how our Starfleet captains are in love with their ships in the shows and films. There are people who love the Avenger design but as someone like me who has always been a ship design fan, I can wait to see the next Fed ship design from Cryptic.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Am I the only one here who likes the way the Avenger looks? (Granted, I prefer the upswept pylons instead of the flat ones.)
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  • castlebravo023castlebravo023 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    starswordc wrote: »
    Am I the only one here who likes the way the Avenger looks? (Granted, I prefer the upswept pylons instead of the flat ones.)

    You not the only one. I LOVE the Avenger. It has a severely functional appearance which has its own beauty, I think.

    On the other hand I may be the only person who absolutely hates the Galaxy and has since 1987. It is an ill-defined blob/whale, and handles just as badly in game as it did on the screen.
    I also think the Defiant is utterly TRIBBLE. It's way too small for what it's able to do.
    But.
    If you look at the Avenger as basically an enlarged Defiant than it actually makes sense. It takes the severely functional concept of the Defiant and inflates it into a cruiser.

    Now if you excuse me I'm going to go hide from the Galaxy and Defiant class fanboys who are about to come howling for my blood. :)
  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I actually bought an inferior ship with Sovereign skin for my fed (fleet regent) because I couldn't stand the look of the avenger.
  • arvistaljikarvistaljik Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I actually find the Avenger to be quite a nice ship aside from one thing:

    She's too 'tall' for her length.

    Overall, she needs to be about 5-4 decks smaller with those decks taken from the bottom of the stardrive hull. Do that, and she'd fit the standard Starfleet proportioning better. :D
  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I'm going to second the "they just wanted to rip off Into Darkness" comment.

    It's butt-ugly and not at all fitting for a federation ship. It doesn't have any of the elegance or curves. They didn't get this from the "trek" universe. Not to mention the lame "black paint" -- to make it "edgy" if I recall the preview blogs.

    If this ship were introduced for the KDF with theses exact stats it would fit perfectly at home. It just doesn't fit the federation. Not in theme, not in stats, not in layout or capability.
  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I am using the Avenger on a Engineer and I have remove a lot of coloring from it making it mostly white and I think it looks better that way. I still wish their was more customization with it.
  • jagdhippiesjagdhippies Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I did much the same for one of my toons. I removed the black and threw in some blue. I use this ship with another toon with MACO shields that block all color and make it look mostly like the default scheme. I was getting around to getting fleet shields for him anyway.
    My carrier is more powerful than your gal-dread
  • kalvorax#3775 kalvorax Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    starswordc wrote: »
    Am I the only one here who likes the way the Avenger looks? (Granted, I prefer the upswept pylons instead of the flat ones.)

    I love the look of it as its small...if it was huge then it would be a different story :P

    buts its a warship, and it replaces looks for firepower :D
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It's butt-ugly and not at all fitting for a federation ship. It doesn't have any of the elegance or curves. They didn't get this from the "trek" universe. Not to mention the lame "black paint" -- to make it "edgy" if I recall the preview blogs.
    The Black Paint thing isn't a new thing for the Avenger. All the 2409-look ships have the black stripes on them. Armitage, Regent, Oddy, Besta, they all have those stripes.

    Painting your ship to look like that is also a traditional technique of warfare. If anything, our paint jobs aren't garish enough!
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  • foxalpha5foxalpha5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You not the only one. I LOVE the Avenger. It has a severely functional appearance which has its own beauty, I think.

    On the other hand I may be the only person who absolutely hates the Galaxy and has since 1987. It is an ill-defined blob/whale, and handles just as badly in game as it did on the screen.
    I also think the Defiant is utterly TRIBBLE. It's way too small for what it's able to do.
    But.
    If you look at the Avenger as basically an enlarged Defiant than it actually makes sense. It takes the severely functional concept of the Defiant and inflates it into a cruiser.

    Now if you excuse me I'm going to go hide from the Galaxy and Defiant class fanboys who are about to come howling for my blood. :)

    OMG someone else who hates the defiant!? *high fives* I hate the Defiant. It is a flying waffle.

    On topic, I find the Avenger to be beautiful. It is not a huge ship, it has weight to its parts making it not look flimsy *cough* Constitution *cough* and it looks like it means business.

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  • sevmragesevmrage Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The Black Paint thing isn't a new thing for the Avenger. All the 2409-look ships have the black stripes on them. Armitage, Regent, Oddy, Besta, they all have those stripes.

    Painting your ship to look like that is also a traditional technique of warfare. If anything, our paint jobs aren't garish enough!

    I'm not sure that what the stock Avenger and Oddy has was meant to be Dazzle Camo at all.

    I think it was just meant to be a new sense of color and style, to freshen the looks of starfleet ships.

    Also, that style isn't really traditional. It was a scheme they tried, and it didn't really work. There's more tradition in using matching background colors to camoflage than there is for braking up an outline with garish colors.

    Hell, the stripes on my Galaxy Dread have more in line with WW1 fighters than it does any traditional colorscheme.
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  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited October 2013
    starswordc wrote: »
    Am I the only one here who likes the way the Avenger looks? (Granted, I prefer the upswept pylons instead of the flat ones.)

    The looks of the Avenger have certainly grown on me. Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder.(in other words the person looking at it)
    sonnikku wrote: »
    I actually bought an inferior ship with Sovereign skin for my fed (fleet regent) because I couldn't stand the look of the avenger.

    I wouldn't call the Regent inferior to the Avenger, the Wide Angle Torpedo allows you to make a far better broadsider than the Avenger. They both have good BOFF layouts, the Regent does get a crappy console but and I think they both do different jobs.

    Avenger can do Beams but works as a Cannon Cruiser better than any other Fed Cruiser.
    Regent can do Cannons but works as one of the Best Beam boats and comes with a great Torpedo.

    I consider the Regent, Excelsior and Avenger to be the best Fed Cruisers in the game depending on what you want to do with them.

    The only Cruiser type the Federation is missing is a Flight Deck Cruiser, probably with it's own unique pets. And I don't think it should be a Galaxy. Probably a unused Cannon design or a unique Design.
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  • arvistaljikarvistaljik Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The looks of the Avenger have certainly grown on me. Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder.(in other words the person looking at it)

    Very true. I think she looks great as long as you can't see the stardrive section lol. :D
    I wouldn't call the Regent inferior to the Avenger, the Wide Angle Torpedo allows you to make a far better broadsider than the Avenger. They both have good BOFF layouts, the Regent does get a crappy console but and I think they both do different jobs.

    Avenger can do Beams but works as a Cannon Cruiser better than any other Fed Cruiser.
    Regent can do Cannons but works as one of the Best Beam boats and comes with a great Torpedo.

    I consider the Regent, Excelsior and Avenger to be the best Fed Cruisers in the game depending on what you want to do with them.

    The only Cruiser type the Federation is missing is a Flight Deck Cruiser, probably with it's own unique pets. And I don't think it should be a Galaxy. Probably a unused Cannon design or a unique Design.

    There are those of us who put the Wide-Angle Quantum Torpedo Launcher on the Avenger in addition to a mix of beams and some DCH's up front. She's good at both roles and in this configuration can still place in the top three in most Fleet Actions.
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