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jaguarman1234
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So I've noticed that there is absolutely no choice for Romulan captains who want to fly a science ship but to fly the Ha'nom as a T5 ship. All things being equal, it is unfortunate that even the Klingons (who in canon aren't exactly the most focused on scientific research) have choices for science vessels, including full carriers (which would be nice). I know there is the Temporal Science Vessel, but I don't really feel like that is a Romulan ship. The primary reason I enjoy playing my Romulan faction characters is the unique nature of using the singularity powers and coping with the reduced power levels. Taking away the singularity core from the Romulan version of the TSV has removed all desire I had to play that ship. Plenty of people will say the Romulan singularity powers make it impractical for Cryptic to add even more science abilites to a ship, to that I must disagree. The singularity powers lock out all of the other powers for up to one minute. A minute is an eternity in much of the end game content.
Alas, I'm sure this will just be ignored by the Devs and Community Managers as a whining post about a lack of *BLANK* for my particular *BLANK* and that it isn't fair that I can't do what I want to do. None the less, I'm just saying it would be great to have some degree of choice in ships, since they were lazy and stuck the Dreadnaught Warbirds with the exact same BOff layout regardless of the type of ship it is.
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Also, the Ha'nom is slower than any other T5 Science ship in the other factions, including the carriers which is just sad really.
Alas, I'm sure this will just be ignored by the Devs and Community Managers as a whining post about a lack of *BLANK* for my particular *BLANK* and that it isn't fair that I can't do what I want to do. None the less, I'm just saying it would be great to have some degree of choice in ships, since they were lazy and stuck the Dreadnaught Warbirds with the exact same BOff layout regardless of the type of ship it is.
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Also, the Ha'nom is slower than any other T5 Science ship in the other factions, including the carriers which is just sad really.
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I mean, Cryptic HAD a CANON Romulan Science Ship to use, had they not made it a Commanders Gig skin choice... But yeah. More love for Romulan Science. (Heck, Sci in general)
*Cough* Not a Science Ship in the slightest *Cough*
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The ar'kif is the only ship (sans the veteran/lifetime sub ship) that is actually stated to be built by the romulan republic. For a group that has limited resources, personnel, and facilities, it seems to me that making a single modular ship design would be far more viable and efficient than making numerous new ship designs.
As anyone who's been in military design will tell you, it really doesnt cost 30 billion dollars to make a jetfighter or a c130. The initial development and design may have taken that much, but the individual craft are relatively inexpensive by comparison. Research and development are where the cost and time are.
The ar'kif/ar'kala are already amazing looking designs, and at least lore/IP-wise the ship has proven itself to the republic. I think it'd be awesome to have variants of it for science and engineering. New consoles and such arent needed either, they could all come with the focused singularity beam (and quad cannons on the ar'kala) and use the same set bonus that entails. All that needs changed is the consoles, weapon slots, boff seating, and base stats.
I agree. They screwed the pooch when they decided to NOT have the Apnex from "The Next Phase" (TNG) an actual T3 and T5 ship. The stupid thing is, they still could, but refuse to.
I think they will release a Carrier and a Science Vessel soon enough, This is a new faction and they haven't released everything yet.
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The Fleet T'Varo lets you do a number of useful SCI abilities while still taking advantage of the Enh.Battle Cloak, but for pure science abilities, its lackluster. You can't have Cmdr level SCI with it, and it only has 3 SCI Console Slots.
The KDF BOPs have the same console number issues, but at least they can be truly custom configured in their BOFF assignments.
With the T'Varo, SCI is more of a supporting asset compared to its truly TAC oriented styling, which the Fleet version further reinforces.
Sure it lacks the commander science boff a dedicated science ship would have. It also lacks the innate subsystem targeting attacks and sensor analysis. But other than the first one, why are those valuable anyway? Innate subsystem attacks are garbage, and sensor analysis isn't that great either. I'll take an enhanced battlecloak over those any day.
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No. The EBC was made for torpedo launching. The Retrofit B'rel was designed to have the EBC long before Romulans were a thing and it was based off of Chang's BoP in ST:VI. Iow, Torpedo Launching.
And you clearly can't read. The OP was NOT asking for a Sciscort. He was asking for a DEDICATED SCIENCE SHIP. And trust me, Cmdr Sci is a pretty big part of that. As is the Sensor Analysis. Learn to read before responding any further please.
How is the Hanom/Fleet Hanom not a proper sci ship?
Cmdr and lt Cmdr sci boff, 4 sci consoles, 5 for fleet version, sensor analysis, system targeting, and only one that cloaks on top of that. If that isn't a proper sci ship, no other sci ship the feds have are either, because that's what they all do.
I was talking in the sence of apart from that one, All romulan captains wanting to fly a science ship are forced to fly the 1 ship. Would be great if romulan captains had a bigger choice of science ships. Tac captains got a rather big choice of ships, so why not make 1 or 2 more ships that are proper science ships.
But is not the only functional difference between them the 5 or so space specific abilities you get as a captain (Photonic fleet, Nadion inversion, Fire on my mark, etc) and the two traits unique to each one?
Can't you get every BoFF with any ability just by trading to another captain to train?
I ask as I am struggling to choose between Engineering and Science Captains as a romulan. Two favorite ships are the Ha'Nom and the Haakona.
See, that's what I mean?
What is the functional difference between Engi and Sci captains that makes you say Science is the best choice? I could get all the same BoFF's as an Engie, the only difference would be a couple powers like EPS vs having Subnucleonic.
Seems like practically negligible differences.
It has already made it into the game as the "Commander's Gig" also known as the veteran shuttle. That I am happy about. What angers me is that yes, the model was modified and used for the Science Ship (called Apnex in Apocrypha) in "The Next Phase" (TNG). The visual Department specifically used forced perspective to make the ship look like it was about 1/3 the size of the Galaxy-class U.S.S. Enterprise-D. I fail to see why they cannot add that ship. So there would be two ships in the game that look the same just scaled differently. Big freaking deal.
It would be easy for the artists, and no excuse they are busy designing other ships.
Go Science captain in a T'Varo. Use the universal spot for an additional science BOFF.
You won't get tier 4 science abilities, but all that extra firepower, advanced cloak, and destabilized plasma torp more than make up for it.
Most fun I've had in the game yet.
Even if/when they do introduce an end-game science ship, I'll most likely stay in my T'Varo.
It's not asking which ship and build is best for DPS.
It's asking for a Romulan Warbird - complete with singularity core and battle cloak - that has a Cmdr Sci Boff, SubS Targeting, sensor analysis, sci ship shield modifier, etc. As in, a Romulan Science Warbird.
Other ship classes and sci ships in the other factions - even if it's severly limited - offer a choice when it comes to Boff seating (ie ships). Rom science simply does not have this, not even in the form of a single ensign level universal boff station.
Where is the universal boff slot on the fleet Ha'nom?
Lock Box ships do not count for any faction for the sole reason that their availability is theoretically limited.
As for 'be patient', go talk to the Klingons about that...
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It would be nice if there was more variaty in the Science field of ships with their Battle cloak.
But I guess, just like how the KDF is disgruntled with True Science ships, Romulans will also have to be Disgruntled because the Federation has more, and more then likely will have more, Science ships then the other two factions combined.
Would have been nice if they had allowed Romulans access to the Tier 5+ ships of the other factions as well. Would have then made them more versitile.
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so you going to tell this guy to not roll engineer huh O_o... well I seen this good fed enginer my friend fly's he hits pretty hard and does really well... .. funny how quickly you judge them .. He uses the wells and hits pretty hard and its the science ship fed side... and he does awesome job I dueled him few times he is really good ..