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  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    you fellas annoyed Cryptic so much that they said. "Paybakc time, f-bomb b-word" :D
    but yeah, it is annoying.
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  • zi76zi76 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I have a 2GB Nvidia card in my laptop, and while it does heat up once in a while for a spec, I don't experience any frame rate issues. Of course, there's the random bits of lag, but that's always going to happen.
  • roxbadroxbad Member Posts: 695
    edited September 2013
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  • mikearoomikearoo Member Posts: 342 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    yeah I think I heard someone say that the MU ship spawns are bugged, so hopefully its an easy fix to get it more back to normal.

    saying that, i have a 4Ghz quad core cpu and I zoned into a CE that was already in progress, there were so many ships that my machine literally froze for about 8 seconds while it tried to sort out what was happening.

    God help anyone who happens to be in one of these things when a team mate fires off the tachyon console from the Nebula! O.O
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    mikearoo wrote: »
    God help anyone who happens to be in one of these things when a team mate fires off the tachyon console from the Nebula! O.O

    Oh gawd, don't give griefers ideas! :eek:
  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Oh gawd, don't give griefers ideas! :eek:

    Griefers never need ideas.....
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  • twamtwam Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    nagrom7 wrote: »
    I'm actually trying to avoid this event where possible because I'm on a laptop. Decent laptop, but still not exactly a gaming rig. I wasn't slidshowing when I did it, but almost burned my hand on the part of the casing above the graphics card.

    I have to admit, at some point I was looking around, thinking "what's that smell? Smells like hot plastic" - turned out the fan exhaust was heating up my speakers, some 5 centimetres away.

    No frame rate issues, though, even on this laptop. Maybe, like an earlier poster also mentioned, it's my 2gb video card. Dunno.
  • tinead51tinead51 Member Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Taking bets that they'll deploy a "fix" for CC before Thursday and then say we'll extend the Event to make up for it...

    You know I'm right :rolleyes:
  • reximuzreximuz Member Posts: 1,172 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    What makes you think people haven't already did that?

    And some people actually rather play the previous CE than the new one, even on "Normal".

    You can play the old CE after Oct 17. I don't think a more difficult CE is unreasonable considering the ease and the level of rewards given.
  • reximuzreximuz Member Posts: 1,172 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    nagrom7 wrote: »
    For a lot of people, its not the difficulty but the sheer amount of spam on the maps is actually damaging their computers. Not everyone runs this game on a high end gaming rig.

    If a game is "damaging your computer" then something isn't configured correctly in your computer.

    Even with MU spam there is less going on in the CE Map then there is in most of the other Fleet Action maps, or even the MU event.
  • carasucia83carasucia83 Member Posts: 568 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    So it's gonna get an extension AND a nerf on a technicality? Maaaan...... just when the game was getting fun.... :(

    It is frying my rig on occasion though. I'll agree with that. In fact the game seems to heat up my machine far more in general than any other game with same requirements does.
    "So my fun is wrong?"

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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Might I recommend cleaning the dust out time to time :D
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    reximuz wrote: »
    You can play the old CE after Oct 17. I don't think a more difficult CE is unreasonable considering the ease and the level of rewards given.

    Excuse me, but we didn't have to leap through hoops of fire in the last CE Event to earn those same rewards.

    And we shouldn't be punished for not having fancy gaming computers that some genius at Cryptic thinks everyone owns.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    tinead51 wrote: »
    Taking bets that they'll deploy a "fix" for CC before Thursday and then say we'll extend the Event to make up for it...

    You know I'm right :rolleyes:

    Borticus said on one of the threads that there is a fix already with the Mirror Ships AI and it not attacking the CE. Then commented that he didn't know when it would go in. :rolleyes:


    My bets the fix will go in on the last week of the event. Unless Cryptic panics at the number of angry customers who can't enjoy the event because of all the NPC Spam and the stress put on our video cards. Then I would say Thursday ........... next week. :P
  • carasucia83carasucia83 Member Posts: 568 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I do find it odd that the threads on performance issues turned up after the it's too hard threads. Just sayin.....
    "So my fun is wrong?"

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  • cyberdeath666cyberdeath666 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    im ok with the graphics cards side of things its not a problem for me just having a hard time getting any where near the entity due to the fact there is over 100 enemy ships in the way talk about over kill lol

    and no im not gonna do normal im way past that :)
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  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    dahminus wrote: »
    Lower graphics settings, play normal, hit CE hard and win

    sorry but what a silly remark when it brings my gtx 670 to it's knee's , that is a powerful gfx card and this new event makes the fps drop to 7 in parts . that gfx card is more than enough to run STO at max
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  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited September 2013
    Funny how people start whining as soon as the difficulty is ramped up.

    CE is finally fun, and ya'll are complaining. The random introduction of gravity wells/tykens rifts/subspace anomalies makes things more interesting. Oh, and I'm running a bloody laptop connected to a large monitor, and I'm not having too much trouble.

    Are you people trying to keep STO PvE stupefyingly boring?
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  • mktormktor Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Its a pretty stupid encounter change, the MU suddenly CE conservationists?? have CE immunity if there gonna be 50+ ships in the ecnounter at any one time they should at least be hit by CE, and thats on normal.

    But conisdering I just do CE for Nukara marks which is already a grind I hate and hate about rpgs sick of everything in end game being about grinds, I just dont play ill wait for 21 days and come back when it isnt stupid.

    And as I dont play I dont spend money just cant justify it. no fun = no money
  • usscapitalusscapital Member Posts: 985 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    timezarg wrote: »
    Funny how people start whining as soon as the difficulty is ramped up.

    CE is finally fun, and ya'll are complaining. The random introduction of gravity wells/tykens rifts/subspace anomalies makes things more interesting. Oh, and I'm running a bloody laptop connected to a large monitor, and I'm not having too much trouble.

    Are you people trying to keep STO PvE stupefyingly boring?

    I like a challenge but having 50+ ships attacking me is a little OTT tbh :D
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  • mktormktor Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    timezarg wrote: »
    Funny how people start whining as soon as the difficulty is ramped up.

    CE is finally fun, and ya'll are complaining. The random introduction of gravity wells/tykens rifts/subspace anomalies makes things more interesting. Oh, and I'm running a bloody laptop connected to a large monitor, and I'm not having too much trouble.

    Are you people trying to keep STO PvE stupefyingly boring?


    If we did CE for reasonable drop chances or something tangible Id agree with you, but CE is just a grind fest for nukara marks which you log in do as many times in mark 3 hours then go find something else to do.

    if they want to remove the insanely boring factor remove the grind fest and give me a reasont o stay in CE for 45 minutes and battle my guts out not just get to the end and say oh well got to do that 40 more times.... pass
  • sfc#5932 sfc Member Posts: 992 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2013
    mktor wrote: »
    If we did CE for reasonable drop chances or something tangible Id agree with you, but CE is just a grind fest for nukara marks which you log in do as many times in mark 3 hours then go find something else to do.

    if they want to remove the insanely boring factor remove the grind fest and give me a reasont o stay in CE for 45 minutes and battle my guts out not just get to the end and say oh well got to do that 40 more times.... pass
    I do it for the Fleet Marks.
  • sfc#5932 sfc Member Posts: 992 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2013
    While I do find it annoying that the spam is much, they're going to fix it.

    And I've always had lag on CE no matter what. It's nothing new. It's not going to fry my rig per se, but it's always a challenge to stay afloat with low FPS.
  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    timezarg wrote: »
    Funny how people start whining as soon as the difficulty is ramped up.

    CE is finally fun, and ya'll are complaining. The random introduction of gravity wells/tykens rifts/subspace anomalies makes things more interesting. Oh, and I'm running a bloody laptop connected to a large monitor, and I'm not having too much trouble.

    Are you people trying to keep STO PvE stupefyingly boring?

    It is fun... for you, and a minority like you.

    Why do we have to put up with a giant terran ship spam on NORMAL which has ships more resilient than Elite stf cubes?
    Sure, make Elite so hard that everything one-shots the powergamers who have machoistic urges about being beaten in a game.

    But keep the normal doable. Remove the mirror ship spam, otherwise the instance is fine.
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  • l30p4rdl30p4rd Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Now the PvE community has a taste of what PvP on a low scale is like and my gosh do they scream :eek:
    Intensify what you are experiencing by say a factor of 10 and you will be close to a PvP PUG match !
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  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    l30p4rd wrote: »
    Now the PvE community has a taste of what PvP on a low scale is like and my gosh do they scream :eek:

    Yeah and we do NOT want to taste that PvP taste any more than we want to taste rotten gagh.

    Keep that taste to the PVP events. Eeeew.
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  • gurugeorgegurugeorge Member Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Might I recommend cleaning the dust out time to time :D

    Yeah, people don't realize how much of a biggie this can be. If your rig has been sitting there for a year or so, you might be surprised at how clogged up it is inside. Many games don't challenge a rig, but when a game does, that's when an overheating-due-to-dust problem might show up.

    A can of compressed air plus very careful use of the bare end (i.e no head, just the short "hand" bit of the tube) of a vacuum cleaner, does the trick. Compressed air loosens up the dust and turns it into bunnies, then vacuum up the bunnies.

    (Make sure the computer is switched off at the power supply but plugged in, and earth yourself by touching the power supply before doing this, and don't touch anything in the computer with the vacuum cleaner head, just pick up the bunnies by hovering.)
  • towanitowani Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Cryptic,

    I enjoy the ship spam and all! It's immersive, and fun. My computer is 3 years old... ATI Phenom II 720 (O.C.'d to 3.1) w/ 4 gig RAM and an ATI 6950. While it's not perfect, it's playable. And this is with 3+ year old equipment.

    Forgive those that can't handle 1 or 2 missions and cry foul.

    For the rest of us, we appreciate that 1 or 2 missions can stress our computers. Not everything in game has to be made for a $300 laptop 4 years old.

    Sincerely,
    Me :)

    P.S. This is purely my opinion and not the opinion of anyone else. People may flame and again cry foul, but trolls do what trolls do.
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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited September 2013
    Excuse me, but we didn't have to leap through hoops of fire in the last CE Event to earn those same rewards.

    And we shouldn't be punished for not having fancy gaming computers that some genius at Cryptic thinks everyone owns.

    This ... So much this. They pulled the same **** after LoR where they totally borked CE on both normal and hard. It then took them weeks to fix it so it worked reasonably. Doesn't this company know how yo take a measured approach. Dial up the difficulty on elite modestly but don't go crazy with it.
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