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So, the Tactical Warbird Retrofit is getting an upgrade....

burstdragon323burstdragon323 Member Posts: 853 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Romulan Discussion
....to have a Hangar? Along with its OP Vesta Rip-Off Super Plasma Beam?

*sigh*

Hey Ship Team!

How about you stop ignoring Science now? Make us a Science Warbird that has a Base Turn of 12+ that does not have the size and hitbox of a DREADNAUGHT?
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  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    ....to have a Hangar? Along with its OP Vesta Rip-Off Super Plasma Beam?

    *sigh*

    Hey Ship Team!

    How about you stop ignoring Science now? Make us a Science Warbird that has a Base Turn of 12+ that does not have the size and hitbox of a DREADNAUGHT?

    Lets adds add a hangar to this underwhelming ship! WOooooo~ *cricket cricket*
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  • andoriansrusandoriansrus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I feel in all honesty that if the Tactical Warbird is given a single hangar bay then the Scimitar Dreadnought Warbird should be given TWO hangar bays.... just my two energy energy credits
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I feel in all honesty that if the Tactical Warbird is given a single hangar bay then the Scimitar Dreadnought Warbird should be given TWO hangar bays.... just my two energy energy credits

    Sounds reasonable to me, make it so #1.
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  • hasukurobihasukurobi Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I feel in all honesty that if the Tactical Warbird is given a single hangar bay then the Scimitar Dreadnought Warbird should be given TWO hangar bays.... just my two energy energy credits

    Just based on pure size... I agree.


    Admittedly this makes this ship a bit more like some weird hybrid between the Vesta (though not as good) and the Heavy Escort Carrier. It would make it more powerful and more worthwhile but it seems a little silly.
  • dreadcalldreadcall Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I feel in all honesty that if the Tactical Warbird is given a single hangar bay then the Scimitar Dreadnought Warbird should be given TWO hangar bays.... just my two energy energy credits

    Yes the scimitar definitely needs a buff :D
  • carasucia83carasucia83 Member Posts: 568 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    ....to have a Hangar? Along with its OP Vesta Rip-Off Super Plasma Beam?

    *sigh*

    Hey Ship Team!

    How about you stop ignoring Science now? Make us a Science Warbird that has a Base Turn of 12+ that does not have the size and hitbox of a DREADNAUGHT?

    Rest assured, there is a sci ship in the works, it's just that it will be one that has a Cmdr Tactical station, 4 forward weapon slots and no subsystem targeting, that's all.
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  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    ....to have a Hangar? Along with its OP Vesta Rip-Off Super Plasma Beam?

    *sigh*

    Hey Ship Team!

    How about you stop ignoring Science now? Make us a Science Warbird that has a Base Turn of 12+ that does not have the size and hitbox of a DREADNAUGHT?

    Do you have a source for this? Personally I love the ar'kif, and I'd be absolutely thrilled if it got a hangar, considering all my other characters fly carriers.

    Of course, it doesnt make much sense at all for the ship to get a hangar - it has no place to launch the fighters from, and it's fairly small (as far as romulan standards go, anyways) - but I think the tactical warbird does need at least something to make it stand out and be a little more useful.
  • burstdragon323burstdragon323 Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Do you have a source for this? Personally I love the ar'kif, and I'd be absolutely thrilled if it got a hangar, considering all my other characters fly carriers.

    Of course, it doesnt make much sense at all for the ship to get a hangar - it has no place to launch the fighters from, and it's fairly small (as far as romulan standards go, anyways) - but I think the tactical warbird does need at least something to make it stand out and be a little more useful.

    Patch Notes: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=12458021#post12458021

    It's getting a hangar, the Rip-Off Beam has a 20-second burst VS the Vesta's 12, and it has a stacking debuff that makes the beam hit harder.

    Youtuber Yuzral showed a vid in which he was able to get over 50,000 damage with the beam alone.
  • syndonaisyndonai Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I feel in all honesty that if the Tactical Warbird is given a single hangar bay then the Scimitar Dreadnought Warbird should be given TWO hangar bays.... just my two energy energy credits

    As much as i love that idea, i doubt it would happen purely because the scimitar already is powerfull on its own, even without any hangers.
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  • scaventoscavento Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Ok, now the ar'kif is an upgraded armitage:

    +1 base turn rate
    +1500 base hull
    + battle cloak
    +singularity abilities
    +1 ensign engeneering
    + 2 piece plasma set
    -1 ensign tactical
    -40 power

    another ship outclassing its counterpart, give them 3 more month and we have romulans online :(
  • twamtwam Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I'm mainly wondering "why?".

    1) Why does every new ship nowadays need a hangar bay? Because we don't have enough spam going on?

    2) Why does every Romulan ship need to be an analog to a different ship, only slightly more powerful?

    Stuff like that, I just don't get it. I truly don't.
  • kalvorax#3775 kalvorax Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    syndonai wrote: »
    As much as i love that idea, i doubt it would happen purely because the scimitar already is powerfull on its own, even without any hangers.

    that may be true, but IF the scimitar got a 2nd hanger bay then that would make it so there is a 2 hanger carrier (that is what i call it) for each faction (atrox for feds, Karfi/vo'quv for KDF, and IF DONE Scimitar for Roms) at T5.
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  • torsten1009torsten1009 Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    scavento wrote: »
    Ok, now the ar'kif is an upgraded armitage:

    +1 base turn rate
    +1500 base hull
    + battle cloak
    +singularity abilities
    +1 ensign engeneering
    + 2 piece plasma set
    -1 ensign tactical
    -40 power

    another ship outclassing its counterpart, give them 3 more month and we have romulans online :(

    Almost correct:

    The Armitage has got 32,000 base-hull (according to the C-Store information), so it is:
    - 500 base hull

    And the Armitage has a fixed Lt. Cmdr. Engineering, the Ar'Kif has got a universal Lt. Cmdr. .

    The Singularity-Abilities are a nice toy, but using them costs you all you Power-Bonuses from the Singularity Core, they are only a "oh ****"-button or a little burst-damage.

    And don't forget, there is a Fleet Armitage, but there is no Fleet Ar'Kif yet (and it is not announced).

    EDIT:
    "oh ****"-button == Emergency-Button
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  • mustafatennickmustafatennick Member Posts: 868 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Almost correct:

    The Armitage has got 32,000 base-hull (according to the C-Store information), so it is:
    - 500 base hull

    And the Armitage has a fixed Lt. Cmdr. Engineering, the Ar'Kif has got a universal Lt. Cmdr. .

    The Singularity-Abilities are a nice toy, but using them costs you all you Power-Bonuses from the Singularity Core, they are only a "oh ****"-button or a little burst-damage.

    And don't forget, there is a Fleet Armitage, but there is no Fleet Ar'Kif yet (and it is not announced).

    EDIT:
    "oh ****"-button == Emergency-Button

    have you flown a warbird??

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    shadows - equivalent to jam sensors which again doesnt require a boff slot and skilling to work effectively

    i like the idea of it getting a hangar now it splits it apart from the other ships as without the hangar all the other warbirds were better at their jobs and outperformed it
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  • syndonaisyndonai Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    twam wrote: »
    I'm mainly wondering "why?".

    It's mainly sunfranck's fault. He said he's buy it if it had a hangar.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I feel in all honesty that if the Tactical Warbird is given a single hangar bay then the Scimitar Dreadnought Warbird should be given TWO hangar bays.... just my two energy energy credits

    the tact warbird was a little underwhelming hence an upgrade. The scimitar is just about the most powerfully offensive ship in the whole game. why does it need a second hangar just because a random ship gets a buff?
  • syndonaisyndonai Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Not to derail or anything, but i imagined the falchion or tulwar to have 2 hangars, at the expense of a console or something.
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  • bridgernbridgern Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    And don't forget, there is a Fleet Armitage, but there is no Fleet Ar'Kif yet (and it is not announced).

    There will be a Fleet Ar'kif probably sooner than later.

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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I feel in all honesty that if the Tactical Warbird is given a single hangar bay then the Scimitar Dreadnought Warbird should be given TWO hangar bays.... just my two energy energy credits

    Does that not mean that the pure carriers with "only" 6 weapon slots like the Vo'quv and Atrox should get 3 or 4 to compensate?
  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited September 2013
    The Scimitar is currently one of the highest DPS ships in the game.

    Why does it need an extra Hanger? And let's remember that the Scimitar has a Frigate level Hanger on what can be compared to a Flight Deck Cruiser.

    Every other Half Carrier is limited to Fighters, Full Carriers are limited to 6 weapons.

    The Scimitar family are currently some of the best ships in the game they do not need a Buff.
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  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I wish they would start upgrading some other ships in the game. Some Fed and Klingon ships need some love too.
  • medicnycmedicnyc Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Some Galaxy-X love would be nice, talk about an underwhelming ship.
  • torsten1009torsten1009 Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Well, now we just need mid-size Romulan Hangar-Pets.

    If you play a FED-allied Romulan, you should be able to use Runabouts or Delta-Flyers on the Ar'Kif now. As a KDF-allied Romulan, you can't, because the KDF hasn't got mid-sized Hangar-Pets. And no, Brandon allready told in the maintenance-thread, that the Droneships won't be able to launch from the Ar'Kif.

    So I would be stuck on Tholian Widows or Scorpions to use on that ship. That's my reason to not buy it at the moment - and the fact that there's currently no Fleet-Version of the Ar'Kif.

    I'd suggest the Kestrel as a Romulan Hangar-Pet, the models are already in the game, so it's just copy&paste of the Danube class and switching the model.
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  • similonsimilon Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Well, now we just need mid-size Romulan Hangar-Pets.

    If you play a FED-allied Romulan, you should be able to use Runabouts or Delta-Flyers on the Ar'Kif now. As a KDF-allied Romulan, you can't, because the KDF hasn't got mid-sized Hangar-Pets. And no, Brandon allready told in the maintenance-thread, that the Droneships won't be able to launch from the Ar'Kif.

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  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    We should get the kestrel and that smaller romulan shuttle (the one you get partway through the story line) as hangar pet options. The scorpion is a reman design, and doesnt fit the ar'kif very well IMO. I dont want to have to use fed ships since I'm not a federation member species or a starfleet officer - I'm a romulan in a romulan ship with a romulan crew using romulan technology, give me romulan fighters! =P
  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,667 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    It's getting a hangar, the Rip-Off Beam has a 20-second burst VS the Vesta's 12, and it has a stacking debuff that makes the beam hit harder.

    The stacking debuff was removed in favor of just incrementing damage of the beam over time, and the description wasn't updated yet when it first hit Tribble.
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    LIES! :P

    Marauding Forces may be useless, but they do exist. ;)

    They don't exist for KDF-Roms, as those require the T5 Marauder to claim, and we can only use up to T4 ships. I suppose Tachyon Drones might count, as those launch in sets of two, though.
  • torsten1009torsten1009 Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    2 weeks ago the Ar'Kif got a hangar, can we expect more changes for Ar'Kif this week?

    -> Will we see a new Romulan Hangar Pet or maybe a few different Romulan Hangar Pets?
    -> Will we see a Fleet Ar'Kif?
    -> Will we see change in the Boff-Layout (maybe a Lieutenant Universal Station now)?
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  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It'll never happen, but id really like to see a commander engineer (or uni) boff slot on it. The bonus to plasma damage from the arkifs set works with eject warp plasma, and it would be an interesting build running two copies of that on this warbird.

    at the very least, it should have the ensign engineer made a lt engineer so players aren't forced into using their so-called "universal" slot for vital engineering skills. A setup like the Armitage wouldn't be bad either.
  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,667 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    2 weeks ago the Ar'Kif got a hangar, can we expect more changes for Ar'Kif this week?

    -> Will we see a new Romulan Hangar Pet or maybe a few different Romulan Hangar Pets?
    -> Will we see a Fleet Ar'Kif?
    -> Will we see change in the Boff-Layout (maybe a Lieutenant Universal Station now)?

    Fleet Ar'Kif will likely be coming shorty before or right at the start of season 8 along with a fair number of other fleet ships spread across the factions (Fleet Kar'fi, Atrox, and vet ships are showing up in toolips on Tribble Test Server).

    There sees to be desire for more dedicated Rom hangars, and hangars seem to be a decent money-maker, so I could see Cryptic making this happen, though I'd doubt it'd be as soon as Thursday.
  • torsten1009torsten1009 Member Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    tom61sto wrote: »
    Fleet Ar'Kif will likely be coming shorty before or right at the start of season 8 along with a fair number of other fleet ships spread across the factions (Fleet Kar'fi, Atrox, and vet ships are showing up in toolips on Tribble Test Server).

    There sees to be desire for more dedicated Rom hangars, and hangars seem to be a decent money-maker, so I could see Cryptic making this happen, though I'd doubt it'd be as soon as Thursday.

    So, it seems like Cryptic returned to their previous "we love the Federation"-state (release of the new Avenger Class and Fleet Avenger Class) and won't be releasing any new Romulan or KDF Ships along with their Fleet-Variant.

    The Fleet Ar'Kif is currently the only Romulan Ship I'm waiting for, and I think a few other players will be waiting for it, too. (I think the Fleet-Version can be called "an upgrade", so I chose to keep this thread alive.)

    In my case that's Cryptics loss, there are currently only 3 Romulan C-Store Ships I didn't buy so far, the 2 D'deridex Variants (without any new shiny Cruiser-Commands, I won't buy them) and the Mogai Retrofit.
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