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spielman#2520 spielman Member Posts: 1,337 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Federation Discussion
I find it funny when you call a bad team out on a mission that is actually quite simple to do once you get the hang of it they get all mad and angry then start the insult game I find it funny. It only happens when you call theme out on it or stat that fact, Example the STF Conduit I find this level or mission even on Elite quite simple, Kill all ships in the area in than 15 minutes with out theme healing. Yet for many I see it is Mission Impossible, they A don't look and check there surrounding9not requited but a smart idea), or they die a hundred times then complain even more when they cant stay alive for than a second or kill the Large Nanite Generator before the Nanite Spheres get there. Just funny if you ask me, if you want you can post the worse teams you have seen and why if you want.
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  • charliescot25charliescot25 Member Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I don't mind them. Although, I do try to explain the difficult situation they get themselves into. Most of the time I get nothing but grief.

    I know we are just humans and to help people out but these people are beyond help at times. I do feel sorry for them.
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  • aunvyraeaunvyrae Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I don't mind them. Although, I do try to explain the difficult situation they get themselves into. Most of the time I get nothing but grief.

    I know we are just humans and to help people out but these people are beyond help at times. I do feel sorry for them.

    This is why I don't bother helping people outside my fleet. Some people (like my brother) get upset and angry when you try to help them. They just don't want it.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    My personal bugbear is the guys who go into a Borg Invasion daily with apparently no idea at all how to fight the Unimatrix. In other words, you're best off picking a single shield facing of the thing, usually the side facing you when it warps in, and have the whole group concentrate all fire on that facing, and blast any regen probes as soon as they appear. Instead they just fly around it in circles wasting their fire against near-100% shields and completely ignore the regenerators. It's not like the Unimatrix is a moving target like every other mob...
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    This is exactly the reason why I never help anyone unless they truly ask for it. I expect everyone doing an elite stf to know wth they are doing, if they don't than they better start learning or asking. Otherwise they will remain an idiot to the game in my books and deserve nothing IMO from anyone!!! Don't want help? Fine figure it out on your own, and if you are to incompetent to do that than you need not join an elite stf and ruin it for others.
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  • havokreignhavokreign Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I consider the ones crying about optionals and hollering at others to be the 'bad' players.
  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The worst people are the ones that spam "10%" in team chat. >_>

    Or the ones that insist on trying to do all three cubes at once in fricken cure. Just RML. Nuke nuke nuke. And dont sit by Kang, get out there on offense!

    Also, the OPs name is horribly ironic XD
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  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The worst people are the ones that spam "10%" in team chat. >_>

    Or the ones that insist on trying to do all three cubes at once in fricken cure. Just RML. Nuke nuke nuke. And dont sit by Kang, get out there on offense!

    Also, the OPs name is horribly ironic XD


    I find "dont kill the cube" a much greater sign of incompetence. But my absolute highlight is "Dont kill the gate" in KASE. Some ppl really have trouble dealing with 2 Spheres. On the other hand I have seen three escorts not being able to stop four probes in KASE.

    Also classy: "Ill heal the kang" :D
  • sheppardussheppardus Member Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I usually enquire at the beginning if people know tactics for the various STFs if I am doing a PUG and then help explain it to anyone who doesn't to help along.

    The worse I have seen in a STF is Cure elite where I was playing with 4 random Tacts (I'm science) none of them wanted to go anywhere near the cubes and all sat defending the Kang while taking pot shots at one shipyard, by the time they destroyed it I had cleared 2 shipyards and 2 cubes alone.. was so frustrating
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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    My funny moment is when I realized my main carries pugs.

    I knew my main was leaps and bounds ahead of my alt but I always wondered why my mains estfs group were awesome but my alt's group were slow and sluggish.

    After parses with act and cross checking groups between my main and my alts...the only factor was my main doing 10-18k more dps then the next person in the group.

    My alts average 6k...but that doesn't cover it when the group is full of baddies
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  • qxnoqxno Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I'd rather have a n00b that just hit 50 that is tryin'

    over a dern leech.:mad:

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  • rezkingrezking Member Posts: 1,109 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    havokreign wrote: »
    I consider the ones crying about optionals and hollering at others to be the 'bad' players.

    Same here.
    I don't know what's worse...the guy that doesn't know ESTF's or the 1337ist douche telling everyone their dps sucks.
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    sheppardus wrote: »
    I usually enquire at the beginning if people know tactics for the various STFs if I am doing a PUG and then help explain it to anyone who doesn't to help along.

    The worse I have seen in a STF is Cure elite where I was playing with 4 random Tacts (I'm science) none of them wanted to go anywhere near the cubes and all sat defending the Kang while taking pot shots at one shipyard, by the time they destroyed it I had cleared 2 shipyards and 2 cubes alone.. was so frustrating

    I do too. I also call out guidance to the other players. If they don't take my advice and we fail, that is their problem, not mine.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Gimmie a 'bad' player trying to do their bit over some 'elite' moron ordering us around or going off on one in team chat because one of the generators were popped too early.
  • talore003talore003 Member Posts: 49
    edited September 2013
    I don't have a problem with someone that tries and listens. I do have a problem with those that don't and continue to be a moron. Then again if I haven't done one of the STF's before I am not going to start with an elite hehe.

    The Conduit is the most frustrating one because it is so simple to do but people still can't get it right or even try heh.
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    havokreign wrote: »
    I consider the ones crying about optionals and hollering at others to be the 'bad' players.

    Me too.

    Seriously, if you think missing out on 15 omega marks gives you an excuse to berate your team, you're a bad person.
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    rezking wrote: »
    Same here.
    I don't know what's worse...the guy that doesn't know ESTF's or the 1337ist douche telling everyone their dps sucks.

    You forgot "1337ist that doesn't know ESTFs". I'm sure we all have encountered them before - usually the ones that have the rainbow boat with a spare skittle tosser saying how their "1337 build" has "pwned pve" and should steamroll the ESTF...

    I vaguely recall an ISE that had one of these. We all went left, "1337ie" went right. We wiped the side "in order", he hadn't even popped the cube. When we caught up to him, popped cube in short order, and started wiping the rest in order. Heck, funny thing was that I was in my old Luna for this, so I wasn't exactly a DPS machine (usually my nanite was the last to hit 10%), and I was still last even with his "help"...
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  • sampa4sampa4 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    spielman1 wrote: »
    I find it funny when you call a bad team out on a mission that is actually quite simple to do once you get the hang of it they get all mad and angry then start the insult game I find it funny. It only happens when you call theme out on it or stat that fact, Example the STF Conduit I find this level or mission even on Elite quite simple, Kill all ships in the area in than 15 minutes with out theme healing. Yet for many I see it is Mission Impossible, they A don't look and check there surrounding9not requited but a smart idea), or they die a hundred times then complain even more when they cant stay alive for than a second or kill the Large Nanite Generator before the Nanite Spheres get there. Just funny if you ask me, if you want you can post the worse teams you have seen and why if you want.

    I was thrown into that situation when I first started running STF Elites. In fact, at first, I either hated or was afraid to run them for a while. After running them for a few times with one of my fleets, and upgrading all of my equipment, I eventually got used to them and even started to enjoy running them! And believe it or not, I have become quite experienced running them! I will admit that the number of time I have been sunk in them has been hit and miss (between not being sunk at all and getting sunk every 5-10 seconds). But, I have truly gone from being a very inexperienced player to being a veteran in a short time! As such, I believe that it is very much possible that these players who are performing very poorly and then complaining about it are probably very green players that are only experienced in running the normal STFs. My advice, cut 'em some slack! Remember, we were all there at one point or another! Also, ask them what their current build is and give them advice on what they can do to improve upon them! Remember, YOU are the veteran and THEY are not!
  • rovakiinrovakiin Member Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    sampa4 wrote: »
    My advice, cut 'em some slack! Remember, we were all there at one point or another! Also, ask them what their current build is and give them advice on what they can do to improve upon them! Remember, YOU are the veteran and THEY are not!
    Problem is, there are some people out there who, no matter how nice you are about it, just refuse to take advice and insist that their build is the only way to go.
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    rovakiin wrote: »
    Problem is, there are some people out there who, no matter how nice you are about it, just refuse to take advice and insist that their build is the only way to go.

    What's your build? :P
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  • dmetrikepidmetrikepi Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The Veteran Screamers are the worst. Personally I hate being the power house in an event. It's a lot of pressure and if everyone else had worse equipment than mine, we'll be less efficient. There are a few man vet types, though. There are the ones that bought their way to victory and that's not so bad. Sometimes maybe they're suffering horrible lag or haven't slept for 3 days and they're good every other time. But then there's these would be support commanders who want to act like there's only one way to run an event. Not only are these guys obnoxious, but sometimes their advice is awful. If you've rescuing Romulan ships and you see 2 guys fighting for a Falccion and they've been at it for 2 minutes or more, don't tell me to not help them. First that's a good ship with good loot from that mob. Next, that's a lane that needs clearing to make room for another ship. When you're dealing with the 3 and 5 point ships, depending on what you're rolling with, it may make sense to converge the whole team for the big and nasty then split up for the light work.

    Another thing that comes in is when 3 guys from the same fleet are in a public PvE, and it can go bad in two ways. First, they can insist on doing things in a highly specialized tactical way where everyone has a special role and when me and the other odd man out don't follow suit we get yelled at or those 3 pop in and go off and do their own thing and don't pay attention to what the other 2/5ths of their team is doing. Look, if you're in a public room, you're all Indy operators because your officer is not my officer and the reason he's not my officer is because I didn't want to be in your fleet. I'm not interested in his complicated plan. Get in, do the job, get out, got it?
  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I got told today to not go so fast...

    I am not sure where it came from, you know what I mean? I was going at my fleet-pace when we run a premade, in a pug... and apparently people were mad at me thinking I was showing off or something. I just try to get it done as quickly as i can so i can hit the next one.

    Slow down? O_o

    I understand that some builds are better specced than others for this stuff (my fleet advanced is an absolute pve beast and its intended to be that way), but I would have thought having someone not only holding all aggro, but also surviving it, and doing the lions share of the damage was a good thing?

    I am confused.
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  • dmetrikepidmetrikepi Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The optional cry baby stuff is ridiculous. The thing is that no matter how you slice it, your optional maybe tanked, but here are your options: finish it, get some marks and dilithium put afk and wait longer to finish the match than it should take, or bail and get banned for an hour. The obvious best answer is to finish the job, get paid, and sign up for one if the other 3 Omega mark missions.
  • dmetrikepidmetrikepi Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    rob2485 wrote: »
    I had this happen a few times. Lag is the main thing that sucks in this game and can make or break and STF. I gotta tell you that it is one thing we don't have control over and its one thing that makes me not want to run STF's because I get called a noob when the game lags and I get popped.

    Too true. It's why I have the mics turned down when I'm playing. You want to gripe? Cool, but my tax for you doing so is that you have to reach for the chat and risk sucking yourself. Lag sucks, we all suffer it. And sometimes you can come out of it clear across the map.
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