Reading the patch notes for today I see they plan to Nerf the newly released Elachi Battleship by removing its cloak.
According to the original Dev blog (
#38), no mention was made about a cloak so now they want to remove it.
Having made several videos on the new Elachi ships and set items I'm very annoyed that PW/Cryptic is taking something that means so very little to them and so much to longtime STO game Veteran like myself!
I paid my hard earned lobi crystals for one of these ships and I planned to buy a second (not anymore) for another one of my characters soon however now I feel cheated.
It is not even a battle cloak why waste the time and energy by removing it?
Yet another poor decision made by Cryptic!!!:mad:
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According to the original Dev blog (#38), no mention was made about a cloak so now they want to remove it.
Having made several videos on the new Elachi ships and set items I'm very annoyed that PW/Cryptic is taking something that means so very little to them and so much to longtime STO game Veteran like myself!
I paid my hard earned lobi crystals for one of these ships and I planned to buy a second (not anymore) for another one of my characters soon however now I feel cheated.
It is not even a battle cloak why waste the time and energy by removing it?
Yet another poor decision made by Cryptic!!!:mad:
The short story is that the ships were not supposed cloak. It's not a nerf if they removed something that the ship wasn't supposed to have to begin with. Everything else remains perfectly the same.
Besides, if it still had a cloak, imagine the rage of the PvPers who will ask for the nerf...
It was never stated in the dev blog that it was meant to have cloak. It is not being nerfed, it is being fixed. I'm assuming that Cryptic just copy and pasted a KDF cruiser, changed the skin, changed the Boff layout a bit and forgot to remove the cloak.
This is why I wait a couple of weeks before buying anything new just in case there is a mess up and I find out that I have spent money on something I didnt want.
Sure this discussion has already been had a few times... Love when people post without following hte forums...
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Yeah, we can't be fixing broken mechanics now, can we?
It wasn't supposed to have a cloak, or anything like one. Deal with it.
It's not even a nerf.
According to the blog thread...
...and the earlier post...
...so, did you enjoy it while it lasted?
...*waits*...*waits some more*...
Yeah... The cloak has to go.
But I can see how the mistake of putting a cloak on the Elachi Battleship was done. The ship is basically the KDF's Fleet Torkhat/Vor'Cha with a few very minor tweaks (Monbosh BB, Fleet Vor'Cha). The values including handling of the ships are identical, so it makes sense the cloak of the Fleet Vor'Cha transferred over because the dev forgot to remove it.
These issues are not nerfing. Nerfing is when they fix up the Subspace Conduit. This was an issue that got pushed out the doors, much like the long lingering Omega torpedo reloading bug. Some people were upset about that and called it a nerf!
If it's not an intentional fix and involves decreasing of stats or similar issues, it's nerfing. This is not a nerf.
Testing the lockbox for just a few days on tribble, would probably have been enough to identify and remove the problem before people spend Lobi and real life cash on an item and become frustrated and angry when one of it's core features (after all it would have been the only up-to-date cruiser for fed side with a cloak) is being taken away.
While I understand that it wasn't supposed to have it in the first place, it's a major TRIBBLE up on cryptics side that this ship was released with a cloak in the first place, something that could very easily have been prevented with just a tiny bit of quality control.
I blew 800 lobi as soon as I heard from someone it had a cloak . The only cloaked fed cruiser if you had 800lobi
where is my cloak and lobi now........Gone.
BY THE DEMON NERF BAT I curse you PWE
It is not a nerf. The ship was never meant to have a cloak, so it was a bug that got fixed.
Might pay to do some research next time, rather than buying something that expensive on someone else's say so....
Also, there is another Fed cruiser with a cloak, it is the Galaxy-X Dreadnought.
so i guess the gal-x isnt a fed ship with cloak?
Do you even Science Bro?
When a fleet mate says in voice coms hey just got the elachi cruiser and its got a cloak let the celebrations start ....
Because no one wants to fly the dreadnaught the spinal lance is a joke and it turns like a dog TRIBBLE on a hardwood floor.
If you start to compare a cloaking Galaxy-X to a current lockbox cruiser, I seriously question your understanding of game mechanics
The Gal-X isn't an up-to-date ship and it doesn't have the cloak. If you want a cloaking Galaxy-X, you need to pay 4.500 Zen and you basically get an 8-console cruiser, which effectively makes it a T3 ship with a bit more hull and one more weapon slot.
Yeah, but if they'd just taken just a small bit more care on something that is one of the big prizes of the current lockbox, they'd have avoided the whole mess. A few days on tribble would have done it.
So the whole issue is definately due to cryptics poor testing.
What's next? Putting a 5-tac-console, 5-forward weapons, 10-console raptor in the c-store, wait a week and then return it to a conventional outfit, because they accidentally used the Kumari as a template?
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Yes I highly agree because reading the not fine print is so hard!!! A tiny bit of research goes a longggg way.
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Well the people that don't access the forum and use facebook probably won't know that the Battleship has a cloak until they open the box, so I don't really see the problem
Kirk's Protege.
Not that it could really be rated any lower than it already is, mind you.
Also LoL at all the Cryptic Fanboys to the rescue in this thread. It's funny to see people who have their head up "BranFlakes" TRIBBLE. The guy spent a couple years writing fluff PR pieces to lure traffic @massively to STO and got himself a nice cushy job out of it. He's Stahl's version of the mouth of Sauron.
As far as the BBB, they are a zero-power organization that hasn't had any influence in business since the early 80s - pre-internet era. The BBB is the same group that gave the Hamas, a terrorist organization, an A rating simply because their fees were paid - and that's really what the BBB is about: pay the dues and get the good ratings.
So what you're saying is: Whenever something new is released, everyone should watch the forums, dev blogs, twitter, youtube, hours of podcasts, video panels, facebook and whatever other backchannels the devs use to communicate with the playerbase for a few days, so you can be sure that an item that costs the equivalent of about $160 in keys doesn't get changed after you buy it?
Sorry, but if a company introduces an item like this on a live realm, and expect people to shell out money for it, I expect that there aren't any slip-ups and it doesn't get a core ability taken away a week after it's release, just because some lazy-TRIBBLE dev couldn't double-check his work after a copy/paste routine. Period.
Bait and Switch only applies if they were advertising it was something and gave a completely different and inferior product. For example, selling an iPhone 4 and giving an iPhone 2. I guess every Nerf related to lockbox items would be called a Bait-and-Switch in your opinion
What do you need to pay 4500 Zen for?? As my Gal X cost 2500.
8 Consoles ??? Really ???
Doesn't have a cloak ???
What ship do you think the Gal X is??? as you have never actually seen one or flown one it seems.
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And if you equip one properly, it is a beast of a ship, including the lance.