You dont understand, yea we have borg tech, that was enevitable. Borg adapted engines shields and so on do not make for a borg ship neither is it ship as powerful as a cube.
Cubes are not that powerful in STO, or had you not noticed how many go pop every hour in missions or STFs.
So my point stands, we have everything else, might as well give it a ship to call home.
Seven was "liberated" - that makes no difference, Borg are Borg, plugged in or not, they are still Borg.
Plus, how many "chats" did Seven have with the Queen - due to the implants, she was still in contact with her. Plus how many time did Seven go full on Borg in the show due to one reason or another?? (Raven springs to mind)
Picard could still hear the Borg after all of his implants were taken out. He was still connected to them.
Being Borg is not something you "cure" (despite the STF name lol).
Players being in cubes would basically kill the game, the borg are one of the big bads in trek.
I agree with the Borg being the bad guys, as for killing the game - as I've said, they were 3rd on the communities wish list for playable in game, so you're spouting opinion, the votes speak for themselves and prove you wrong.
you captain a cube you should have no problem killing anything interesting in game
Not really, the Voyager crew killed and disabled more than their fair share of Borg ships. 8472, also can kill Borg ships. Nothing stopping others learning how.
Plus, lets face it, we all go about killing tons of Borg every day in missions and STFs - they are not as tough as you'd have them.
I'd say, if playable Borg ships came in, then Cubes should be the tank class (over sized Galaxy config with a few tweaks), Spheres should be science and probes tac.
Borg don't "level", so no actual level, just start as able to use Mk XI and XII.
As for missions, a no win style but on the ISE map - you have to defend the gate from waves of Feds / KDF / Roms etc... (like the current no win)
Yep, I know real playable Borg would not be much fun to play, but some sort of liberated faction..... as for lock box idea's, Assimilated would not be a bad idea but then its more likely to be the Elachi.
Yep, I know real playable Borg would not be much fun to play, but some sort of liberated faction..... as for lock box idea's, Assimilated would not be a bad idea but then its more likely to be the Elachi.
we have a liberated faction called pay 300$ for it
I don't know about the Elaci, since these are Romulan only enemies. We didn't got Fek'Ihri Lockboxes either.
Since i have no idea what the next Lockbox will be, so i make a guess and say it's oing to be either a Hirogen or Terran Lockbox. (hopefully containing a Mirror Galaxy Class. )
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the new lockbox will be elachi. i saw some beta tester posting a elachi console in risa, its like a magnetic overload, but better and with a lot more dmg. this console comes with the escort, but the lobi ship can use it too.
the two ships are called Elachi S'gosh (escort) Elachi Monbosh (double hangar carrier).
most probabily the escort will be the ship from lockbox, and the carrier from lobi.
knowing the elachi have strong shields (from the missions) , i think the escort will have 1.15 shield modifier, and the carrier will have the highest shield mod of all carrier, maybe 1.43 like fleet sci vessels.
i also bet that these new ships will bring a new weapons set.
2 weapons and 1 console
and one of these weapons will be that modded cluster that sends cloaking tractor mines to the enemy.
im i close, devs ?
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Cubes are not that powerful in STO, or had you not noticed how many go pop every hour in missions or STFs.
I agree with the Borg being the bad guys, as for killing the game - as I've said, they were 3rd on the communities wish list for playable in game, so you're spouting opinion, the votes speak for themselves and prove you wrong.
Just because the borg were voted in 3rd place to be a faction dosnt mean its a good idea, and i would say it dosnt prove kirk wrong. As you said , hes sprouting opinion, not fact.
if ppl QQ about scimitar being to big would love to see how a borg cub plays out
I'd love to see them dock at ESD!
Oh, and even funnier, a new player just out of the tutorial warps into Sol the first time...
Sees a Borg cube running around... Fill in the rest with your imagination!
Oh, and even funnier, a new player just out of the tutorial warps into Sol the first time...
Sees a Borg cube running around... Fill in the rest with your imagination!
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To be honest i think making alot of the ships we already have available has been a bad choice.
Ok i understand players want to fly everything and anything. But id be happy with each faction only using there own ships.
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i wouldn't mind if there was some kind of freelance resign you commission function and you go fly whatever the hell you want to, hell i'd even try it, i like the idea of being a privateer on one of my characters
But i get very irritated with all these Non- Faction Issue ships being commissioned, Starfleet fly ships that represent their Organisation, their appearance is part of their function, the ship is in itself an ambassador, As a planet seeking aid, i would not be happy to see a Breen ship show up, it looks menacing
KDF i don't mind so much, i can see them Commanding a trophy they have captured
No dont quote me, but im sure i read somewhere that they want to bring in an enemy from the delta quaderant. Maybe this next lockbox might be the opertunity they need.
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Just because the borg were voted in 3rd place to be a faction dosnt mean its a good idea, and i would say it dosnt prove kirk wrong. As you said , hes sprouting opinion, not fact.
He is spouting opinion AS fact - "it will kill the game" - that reads as a fact, not an opinion (hence my reaction)
Plus, I never said it was a good idea. Not here anyway (just seen a good thread about playable Borg with real ideas, that I liked)
And the point of bringing up the old vote we did (we = those of us who played back then), was that there is a demand for playable Borg, so PWE/Crypric all ready know, they can make money by making the 3rd most popular faction choice from that vote - aka Borg
That's not going to happen - lockbox keys are, arguably, the main source of income for Cryptic/PWE.
The whole reason I don't buy lock boxes is because I don't want non-faction ships for my characters. Simply put I do not and will never want any of the lock box ships. (Unless they align with my faction). So right now PWE is losing my money.
I just hope they won't release ANOTHER super escort and/or Carrier with the new Lockboxes.
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the New Lockbox Will Be Elachi. I Saw Some Beta Tester Posting A Elachi Console In Risa, Its Like A Magnetic Overload, But Better And With A Lot More Dmg. This Console Comes With The Escort, But The Lobi Ship Can Use It Too.
The Two Ships Are Called Elachi S'gosh (escort) Elachi Monbosh (double Hangar Carrier).
Most Probabily The Escort Will Be The Ship From Lockbox, And The Carrier From Lobi.
Knowing The Elachi Have Strong Shields (from The Missions) , I Think The Escort Will Have 1.15 Shield Modifier, And The Carrier Will Have The Highest Shield Mod Of All Carrier, Maybe 1.43 Like Fleet Sci Vessels.
I Also Bet That These New Ships Will Bring A New Weapons Set.
2 Weapons And 1 Console
And One Of These Weapons Will Be That Modded Cluster That Sends Cloaking Tractor Mines To The Enemy.
Im I Close, Devs ?
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I would rather see a T6 Constitution lock box complete with IWIN! Button console with a 100% chance of getting the grand prize everytime you opened one before having a Borg playable ship in game, but that's just my opinion. From all the evidence, it looks to be Elachi, but I would be fine with a Breen box.
I'm going with a borg/delta quadrant lockbox, as dstahl mentioned when he was in esd that they were looking at having one come out some time later this year so, that's my hunch atm.
I think it should be the Cryptic Lockbox.... (it has more lockboxes inside!)
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Cubes are not that powerful in STO, or had you not noticed how many go pop every hour in missions or STFs.
So my point stands, we have everything else, might as well give it a ship to call home.
Seven was "liberated" - that makes no difference, Borg are Borg, plugged in or not, they are still Borg.
Plus, how many "chats" did Seven have with the Queen - due to the implants, she was still in contact with her. Plus how many time did Seven go full on Borg in the show due to one reason or another?? (Raven springs to mind)
Picard could still hear the Borg after all of his implants were taken out. He was still connected to them.
Being Borg is not something you "cure" (despite the STF name lol).
I agree with the Borg being the bad guys, as for killing the game - as I've said, they were 3rd on the communities wish list for playable in game, so you're spouting opinion, the votes speak for themselves and prove you wrong.
Not really, the Voyager crew killed and disabled more than their fair share of Borg ships. 8472, also can kill Borg ships. Nothing stopping others learning how.
Plus, lets face it, we all go about killing tons of Borg every day in missions and STFs - they are not as tough as you'd have them.
I'd say, if playable Borg ships came in, then Cubes should be the tank class (over sized Galaxy config with a few tweaks), Spheres should be science and probes tac.
Borg don't "level", so no actual level, just start as able to use Mk XI and XII.
As for missions, a no win style but on the ISE map - you have to defend the gate from waves of Feds / KDF / Roms etc... (like the current no win)
Plus, I dare say I could dream up a few more.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=817241
oh really :P stares at you with evil romulan look on his face
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Yep, I know real playable Borg would not be much fun to play, but some sort of liberated faction..... as for lock box idea's, Assimilated would not be a bad idea but then its more likely to be the Elachi.
we have a liberated faction called pay 300$ for it
system Lord Baal is dead
Since i have no idea what the next Lockbox will be, so i make a guess and say it's oing to be either a Hirogen or Terran Lockbox.
(hopefully containing a Mirror Galaxy Class.
the two ships are called Elachi S'gosh (escort) Elachi Monbosh (double hangar carrier).
most probabily the escort will be the ship from lockbox, and the carrier from lobi.
knowing the elachi have strong shields (from the missions) , i think the escort will have 1.15 shield modifier, and the carrier will have the highest shield mod of all carrier, maybe 1.43 like fleet sci vessels.
i also bet that these new ships will bring a new weapons set.
2 weapons and 1 console
and one of these weapons will be that modded cluster that sends cloaking tractor mines to the enemy.
im i close, devs ?
That's me !
And to counter - you would not, at a low rank, be put in charge of a ship - yet, in this, you are.
your point is invalid, so is the quote - this is a game, this is a business, if punters will pay and enjoy it - it will happen :P
see : Tal Shiar Adapted Ships ... we just got them ...
Just because the borg were voted in 3rd place to be a faction dosnt mean its a good idea, and i would say it dosnt prove kirk wrong. As you said , hes sprouting opinion, not fact.
Aw.... NO CUBE?
if ppl QQ about scimitar being to big would love to see how a borg cub plays out
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I'd love to see them dock at ESD!
Oh, and even funnier, a new player just out of the tutorial warps into Sol the first time...
Sees a Borg cube running around... Fill in the rest with your imagination!
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system Lord Baal is dead
-lockbox grand prize = Science oriented Aquatic Cruiser
-lobi store ship = Reptilian Escort
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YES- THIS SO MUCH THIS
i wouldn't mind if there was some kind of freelance resign you commission function and you go fly whatever the hell you want to, hell i'd even try it, i like the idea of being a privateer on one of my characters
But i get very irritated with all these Non- Faction Issue ships being commissioned, Starfleet fly ships that represent their Organisation, their appearance is part of their function, the ship is in itself an ambassador, As a planet seeking aid, i would not be happy to see a Breen ship show up, it looks menacing
KDF i don't mind so much, i can see them Commanding a trophy they have captured
You have now been quoted, sorry couldn't resist
Umm...wha?
He is spouting opinion AS fact - "it will kill the game" - that reads as a fact, not an opinion (hence my reaction)
Plus, I never said it was a good idea. Not here anyway (just seen a good thread about playable Borg with real ideas, that I liked)
And the point of bringing up the old vote we did (we = those of us who played back then), was that there is a demand for playable Borg, so PWE/Crypric all ready know, they can make money by making the 3rd most popular faction choice from that vote - aka Borg
The whole reason I don't buy lock boxes is because I don't want non-faction ships for my characters. Simply put I do not and will never want any of the lock box ships. (Unless they align with my faction). So right now PWE is losing my money.
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