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Priority One Podcast Episode 132 -- Dilithium Mine Shafted

kraft4406kraft4406 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Hello Captains and welcome to Priority One's 132nd episode, recorded on Thursday, 13th June, 2013 and published on Monday, 17th June, 2013 at PriorityOnePodcast.com!!!

With James currently on the run after the NSA's Prism operation discovered his stash of Caitian... err... adult material, Tony and Elijah are left in command where in this episode of Priority One they Trek Out the darker side of Star Trek and spend some time chatting about Priority One's plans for Vegas. In STONews we get down and dirty with some interesting patch notes from Tribble that shed light on the new Fleet Holding, and then we invite an old friend and previous guest, PhyrexianHero to chat about what the new Fleet Holding means to players and fleets. Finally, we?ll open hailing frequencies for your incoming messages!

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    monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Perhaps you could be more clear on your thread title. I don't see anything in your post about the Dilithium Mine fleet holding, and especially don't see anything about it getting "shafted". Usually "shafted" would mean that something has been put on hold, or scrapped entirely and won't happen. I'm not going to click on all the stupid links you put in your useless post that is nothing more than you copy/pasting something from someone else without giving your own input or at least a brief explanation of it.

    Just looks like one big advertisement to me.
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    lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    monkeybone13 wrote: »
    Perhaps you could be more clear on your thread title. I don't see anything in your post about the Dilithium Mine fleet holding, and especially don't see anything about it getting "shafted". Usually "shafted" would mean that something has been put on hold, or scrapped entirely and won't happen. I'm not going to click on all the stupid links you put in your useless post that is nothing more than you copy/pasting something from someone else without giving your own input or at least a brief explanation of it.

    Just looks like one big advertisement to me.

    I think the word you're looking for is "shelved" not "shafted". Shafted typically means to get the bad end of a deal. I've also heard it used in relation to being ripped off or scammed in some cases. Also since mines have shafts, it's a play on words. The mine was promised to help small fleets but looks like it's going to do the opposite, hence why we all got "Shafted". Shelved means that something was put on hold or scrapped.

    Anyways since they're going to be talking about fleet holdings and the costs involved (which includes the new mine) I don't see anything wrong with the title.
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    sekritagentsekritagent Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Anyone care to post a transcript with the highlights? Not a fan of the hours-long podcasts or forwarding past the blah-blah-blah to get to the little tidbit I want. Thanks in advance and thanks for producing.
    Delta Rising is the best expansion ever and the players love it! No, seriously! ...Why are you laughing so hard? :(
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    elijahmreelijahmre Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    sekritagent wrote: »
    Anyone care to post a transcript with the highlights? Not a fan of the hours-long podcasts or forwarding past the blah-blah-blah to get to the little tidbit I want. Thanks in advance and thanks for producing.

    We're not hours long... In fact, Priority One Podcast is typically under an hour (unless we have an interview). For instance, this episode is only 59 minutes long. Not even an hour! :cool:
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    stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    lan451 wrote: »
    I think the word you're looking for is "shelved" not "shafted". Shafted typically means to get the bad end of a deal. I've also heard it used in relation to being ripped off or scammed in some cases. Also since mines have shafts, it's a play on words. The mine was promised to help small fleets but looks like it's going to do the opposite, hence why we all got "Shafted". Shelved means that something was put on hold or scrapped.

    Anyways since they're going to be talking about fleet holdings and the costs involved (which includes the new mine) I don't see anything wrong with the title.

    The dev blog coming out this week explaining the mine is going to be *very* interesting.
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    elessymelessym Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    stirling191 wrote: »
    The dev blog coming out this week explaining the mine is going to be *very* interesting.

    I would put money on it not "explaining" how this benefits small fleets at all. Other than "look, 9% discount, aren't we great developers /backslap."
    "Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
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    stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    elessym wrote: »
    I would put money on it not "explaining" how this benefits small fleets at all. Other than "look, 9% discount, aren't we great developers /backslap."

    That is certainly one of two potential outcomes. And given that this is apparently going live in three days, the much more likely one.
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    chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    the way I look at it is this.

    The starbase system sucks because it takes FOREVER to progress from T4-5.
    Many fleet give up. Many fleets don't even bother to loot at T5.

    The dilithium mine is mini-progression.

    Don't think that the dilithium mine is going to help.
    In fact, most likely it won't help the next fleet holding. That is the way it will work.

    Also, in about 3 months (next season), the cost of the dilithium mine will be decreased because "cryptic will look at the numbers are realize it will be better to reduce it".

    In reality, it was planned all along.
    If you look back at the development and execution of the Starbase/Embassy/DM you can see a pattern.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
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    corgatagcorgatag Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    chalpen wrote: »
    In fact, most likely it won't help the next fleet holding. That is the way it will work.

    Actually, I believe there is a dev quote saying that the DM discount will apply to all current and future holdings.
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    xlocutusofborgxxlocutusofborgx Member Posts: 1,373 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Couldnt stand the constant priority one fleet spam for the first while so closed it down.. not here to listen to that.. if I did id just go to zone chat on esd.
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    lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Nope, that IS the right word for that holding.

    I was responding to this part here:
    Usually "shafted" would mean that something has been put on hold, or scrapped entirely and won't happen.

    The word he was thinking of was "shelved" and not "shafted".

    But yes, "shafted" is very appropriate for that holding haha.
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    elijahmreelijahmre Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    xlocutusofborgx wrote: »
    Couldnt stand the constant priority one fleet spam for the first while so closed it down.. not here to listen to that.. if I did id just go to zone chat on esd.

    Aww, Locutus! -- That Fleet PSA was released ages ago for the launch of Fleets in STO (Oct. 7, 2012 to be exact)... It's been on our site for quite some time, actually.

    If you listen closely, it wasn't a PSA to join Priority One -- Just to join a fleet... any fleet.

    You're more than welcome to visit priorityonepodcast.com and check out ALL our downloadable content. You can also check out our Youtube page for awesome tutorials.... Thanks for listening!
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    aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    elessym wrote: »
    I would put money on it not "explaining" how this benefits small fleets at all. Other than "look, 9% discount, aren't we great developers /backslap."


    Don't be cynical ... , I'm sure they will also explain how this Dilithium mine is SO special ... that you actually have to put Dilithium into it , instead of getting Dilithium out of it ! . ;)

    Someone said something about the players getting shafted ... ? :P
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    xlocutusofborgxxlocutusofborgx Member Posts: 1,373 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    elijahmre wrote: »
    Aww, Locutus! -- That Fleet PSA was released ages ago for the launch of Fleets in STO (Oct. 7, 2012 to be exact)... It's been on our site for quite some time, actually.

    If you listen closely, it wasn't a PSA to join Priority One -- Just to join a fleet... any fleet.

    You're more than welcome to visit priorityonepodcast.com and check out ALL our downloadable content. You can also check out our Youtube page for awesome tutorials.... Thanks for listening!

    Have always enjoyed your guys broadcasts, ever since Stoked went downhill you guys have been my source of podcasting info/news ect. Glad you guys have a fleet now, just dont want to see your awsome podcast turn into some sort of recruitment drive. Dont mind the odd mention just felt abit.. more pushy today then other times, anyways just food for thought is all :)

    Cheers
    Loc
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    kokushibyokokushibyo Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    Don't be cynical ... , I'm sure they will also explain how this Dilithium mine is SO special ... that you actually have to put Dilithium into it , instead of getting Dilithium out of it ! . ;)

    Someone said something about the players getting shafted ... ? :P

    Yeah, that's pretty strange all right. Like starting a gold mine and then having to bring in truck-loads of gold in order to... mine the gold? I don't think that'd work very well in real life :D
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    elessymelessym Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    Don't be cynical ... , I'm sure they will also explain how this Dilithium mine is SO special ... that you actually have to put Dilithium into it , instead of getting Dilithium out of it ! . ;)

    Someone said something about the players getting shafted ... ? :P

    Yes, and they also said it would have a significant impact to small fleets. While neglecting to sell us that the significant impact would be getting slapped with a stale herring.
    "Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
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    elessymelessym Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    elessym wrote: »
    I would put money on it not "explaining" how this benefits small fleets at all. Other than "look, 9% discount, aren't we great developers /backslap."

    Called it.

    Although they did raise the discount to 15%, so small fleets are only moderately screwed, instead of monumentally screwed.
    "Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
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    phyrexianherophyrexianhero Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Great work on the podcast! It was a pleasure to be invited back on. :)

    I'm glad that, since publishing, the 3-6-9 percent discounts have been boosted to 4-9-15 percent.
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