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So, why can't FED cruisers have dual cannons/heavy cannons?
jkwrangler2010
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Anyone else wonder why cruisers can't have heavy or dual cannons? I know there will be people saying "cruisers are too slow to use cannons." Shouldn't it be up to the individual player to decide if they want to run cannons on a slow ship? The majority of Klingon and probably Romulan ships can all equip cannons stronger then singles. Not to mention lock box ships; Cardassian, Domionion, Breen, Tholian, Temporal and Romulan [unsure of Ferengi].
I just find it dumb that small ships like the Defiant can have dual heavy cannons but large ships like an Excelsior, Ambassador, Sovereign, Galaxy etc can't. Yes, I do know Starfleets main mission is exploration. But with how the story line goes in the game, war is still the overshadowing factor of gameplay. The Dominion War just ended, the Borg are still a threat and so are all of the regular enemies like True Way, Tal Shiar, Tholians, Undine etc. I know cannons would be mostly useless in story missions, but I could put them to good use in PVE against large enemy cruisers, battleships and dreadnoughts. I mean, a Borg Cube is a big enough target that even an Odyssey with dual heavy cannons could easily hit.
It's discriminatory that all other ships can have heavy cannons but I can't on my cruiser.
I just find it dumb that small ships like the Defiant can have dual heavy cannons but large ships like an Excelsior, Ambassador, Sovereign, Galaxy etc can't. Yes, I do know Starfleets main mission is exploration. But with how the story line goes in the game, war is still the overshadowing factor of gameplay. The Dominion War just ended, the Borg are still a threat and so are all of the regular enemies like True Way, Tal Shiar, Tholians, Undine etc. I know cannons would be mostly useless in story missions, but I could put them to good use in PVE against large enemy cruisers, battleships and dreadnoughts. I mean, a Borg Cube is a big enough target that even an Odyssey with dual heavy cannons could easily hit.
It's discriminatory that all other ships can have heavy cannons but I can't on my cruiser.
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-One of the first new ship developed is Prometheus, an Escort
-The Galaxy-X or Vesta or Atrox - ships of 25th century, are capable of equiping cannons.
Just because JJ's vengeance can equip cannon doesn't mean this timeline's cruiser can. In fact, apparently those are more of a torpedo banks, ala Escort carrier's TPDS.
Because it would be silly to equip a weapon with only 45 degree fireing ark on ship that can barely turn...
But hey... I am all in for it... i'd love to see cruisers try to attack my speedy little defiant while having cannons equipped.
Die horse, DIE.
That maybe true but it's better to have 1 topic like this once in a while then daily whining about useless dhc's on fed cruisers.:D
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I am sure the Failxy-X can load DHC
i'm sorry but what? excuse me since when can the Ha'apek warbird and the De'direk can turn on a dime? i for one would love duel heavy cannons on my fed ships and if u wanna get technical voyager had borg modified dual heavy cannons on it for 2 maybe 3 episodes when fighting the undine so it is possible.
Those were torpedoes.
Because not every ship gets to do everything. If you want to have dhcs, fly a ship that has been shown, or known, to load cannons.
Try them out.
The reason why roms can is they get a cloak, they can ambush and alpha strike. An assault cruiser cant. The KDF pay for DHC/turnrate/cloak with less hull. DHC are great on a cruiser if your target sits still forever like in an STF, other then that your out your mind to try that on a cruiser without cloak/MES3.
Single cannons work great on tac cruisers, same with dual beams, you dont NEED DHC's its the fact that you dont have them that you want them. People can push 10k dps builds with beam arrays/torpedos, look into those.
All else fails get a Dakora/Galaxy X. I fly my KDF dakora with 4 dhc/3 turrets 1 kcb and pvp with it. Even with high turn rate on it 25+ its hard to keep dhc on target, i rock it but i know id be far more effective with beams. This game has already become escorts online lets not make it worse with DHC or bust! on every ship. DHC on a cruiser without alpha strike will be lucky to bust someones shields before they just out circle you and whoop your TRIBBLE with beams, with EptE its hard to even keep escorts ontarget with the looneytoon speed people are cruising at atm.
Why can't cruisers and escorts get sensor analysis and subsystem targetting? We've seen the Enterprise(s) and Defiant do both. It's because science ships, and we know some are better suited than others, have something they do *best*, represented in game by Science Ship traits.
Why don't cruisers get DCs/DHCs? Because that's an escort thing. Klingons and Romulans get to spread that restriction, but they pay for it with something else.
I believe it's called game balance. Cruisers, for their role, are supposed to tank. For some reason in every game, people want to have it all, a tank that can DPS.
It's not about 'canon' , it's about game balance. A properly built cruiser laying beams on broadside with FAW can do good damage, as long as you utilize the proper skills with it. Putting DHC's on cruisers would only do two things:
1) increase the number of people complaining about turn rates who insist on stuffing their ships with beam banks and wanting them to turn like BoP's
2) complain about cruiser DPS (rolls eyes)
Both of those arguments are hardly worth having.
Stop! Stop!, he's already dead
Personally I'm good with just the beam arrays on my Federation ships. I don't mind broadsiding my target to death. So I don't really need cannons on my Federation Cruisers.
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oh i'd love to have dual heavy cannons/turrets on my enterprise E wanna be fed ship but i already know it won't happen and again i still wanna stat what i said from the other guy since when does my romulan Ha'apek advanced warbird turn on a dime 5.5 turn rate is blah even with the evasive manuvers skill i mean 5.5 is what .5 more then the De'dericks turn rate? my fed ship can run circles on it lol.
they dont but using DHCs on a ship that can decloak launch a devastating alpha strike then recloak and hit you again with yet another decloak alpha can be devastating.
The added weapons power buff upon decloak makes it even more devastating aswell also any romulan ship gets a nice turn buff while cloaked.
so DHCs on a romulan warbird like the d'deridex and ha'apax is practicle.
Here is an example.
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=age05_0
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Of course it would be awesome...if this were a Star Wars: Online - Legacy of the Force.
But its not.
This is Star Trek Online - Legacy of Romulus, where Federation cruisers use beam arrays.
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I'm thinking maybe pancakes." ~ John Casey
that ship done sailed with Romulans