Actually, the Sovereign project was originally considered a failure due to Starfleet incorporating too much into its designs. The Regenerative shields had to be replaced and the structural integrity field had to be severely augmented to prevent the Sovereign from tearing herself apart at warp.
The Sovereign was in service during the Dominion War but you never see her... why... because it was an unreliable ship at that time to have in a battle. Remember, she was not even allowed to join the Battle at Sector 001 (Granted because of Picard) but also in the expanded novel, it stated that Starfleet did not want the Enterprise to suffer a catastrophic system failure and be assimilated by the Borg because of its advanced technology.
It was also too big and too impractical to build.
The same was actually true with the Defiant in the fact that Starfleet still had not figured out her basic problems before she was assigned to Deep Space Nine. Sisko even said himself that the ship was "overpowered and overgunned for a ship of her size".
Both ships lacked the superior tricyclic input manifold of the Intrepid which stabilised both structural integrity and provided a more stable warp field. The Intrepid is essentially a light cruiser as well, although I tend to think of her more as an interceptor/fast patrol ship.
However STO makes no reference to her speed, which is one of the key points about her design. Not even a Vesta Class (Which is not canon) can outrun an Intrepid at warp (Quantum Slipstream not counting due to its presence as an experimental and under-explained technology).
If anything, the Intrepid should join the Saber and Steamrunner as fast beam-based patrol ships, almost a beam escort in a way because that is what she was designed to do. The ONLY reason that she is a science vessel in this game is because Cryptic saw that Captain Janeway was a scientist before she was a Captain and made the mistake of saying "It must be a science vessel" and therefore shoehorned the Intrepid there.
The Nova is a true Science vessel because she is smaller then the Intrepid and tactically inferior but possesses better equipment. Remember, they were able to make a multiphasic forcefield chamber in their science lab which Voyager did not seem to be able to create without the schematics.
... Deep Space Nine is a major hub that devs have spent far too much time twiddling about with.
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A tangential point, but this is explainable if you consider that DS9 is (or was, now that LoR is out) supposed to be an end-game hub. If you weren't on ESD, you were at DS9, but now that the Omega Force mechanics have been overhauled, you only really go there for DOff missions. I'm not commenting on whether this is good or bad becuase I just don't know Trek lore well enough to argue the point.
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The Galaxy did have considerable firepower, I know that people like to bash it for being a "luxery liner" but the ship was actually incredibly diverse and was able to distract and delay a BORG CUBE by itself which effectively and remember this guys...
"Destroyed an Excelsior in one shot!" - Emissary DS9.
The Galaxy was the first ship to incorporate Mark X Phasers which were massive, onboard systems capable of producing massive amounts of energy per shot. Much more then an Excelsior could EVER produce, even the Lakota, which I might had only had its shields augmented and Quantum Torpedoes installed.
The whole basis for the modern powerful Excelsior is O'Brian stating "That's a lot of firepower for an Excelsior Class ship..." which indicates nothing. The Lakota was effectively a prototype was never actually an upgrade meant for the entire Fleet.
The Excelsior is really nothing more then a workhorse then, doing medium to heavy duty assignment between planets while the Galaxy went out into new and dangerous territory. Then during the Dominion War, the Galaxy was outfitted with additional firepower which could knock a Galor right back when it fired and additional armour for its "weak point" on the neck in case of suicide attacks.
I'm sorry to have to say this and I really wish I did not have to but the Galaxy is an always will be a SUPERIOR ship to the Excelsior and trying to make it otherwise just shows Cryptic's incompetence.
I just annoys me that newcomers to Star Trek and the game are getting completely the WRONG picture of the Galaxy Class and her capabilities.
I just annoys me that newcomers to Star Trek and the game are getting completely the WRONG picture of the Galaxy Class and her capabilities.
What is more - Star Trek fans have a wrong impression of the ship. Being an exploration vessel with civilians onboard it simply can't be weak. You have take into account that it has to operate in deep space without any assistance of Starfleet. It has to manage on its own because you never know what to expect ahead.
What is more - Star Trek fans have a wrong impression of the ship. Being an exploration vessel with civilians onboard it simply can't be weak. You have take into account that it has to operate in deep space without any assistance of Starfleet. It has to manage on its own because you never know what to expect ahead.
It is a strong ship but the mindset of Starfleet of the time of her design failed her. She proves to be strong ship in DW but in comparision to the FC ships not as tacically oriented. I go on that Galaxy and Sovereign are two sides of the same coin. Galaxy more civilian orient and the Sovereign for combat, both capable of doing the other's job but not as well.
It is a strong ship but the mindset of Starfleet of the time of her design failed her. She proves to be strong ship in DW but in comparision to the FC ships not as tacically oriented. I go on that Galaxy and Sovereign are two sides of the same coin. Galaxy more civilian orient and the Sovereign for combat, both capable of doing the other's job but not as well.
You know, I get pretty tired of posts like this that say that firepower equals strength... the Galaxy was the first starship with Mark X phaser strips able to put out a massive amount of damage. The Galaxy was designed to be multifunctional but also a powerful battleship so that the civilians aboard would be safe, why on earth would Saucer Seperation be such a prevalent feature on her?
She was designed for combat, just like any other Federation but in the hopes that a peace resolution could be met first.
why on earth would Saucer Seperation be such a prevalent feature on her?
Because they knew she'd blow up and the Civilians would need a large lifeboat? (Sorry, but the 1701-D's Saucer Sep ability was one of the most poorly thought out elements - basically, it's:
"Okay, we're going into battle - lets put all the civilians that the rest of the working crew care about onto a slow moving, sublight only vessel which, when not connected to the anti-matter reactor has no firepower - and should we loose, an enemy will be able to find quickly, and capture or destroy easily..."
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There's a reason that in 7 years of the TNG TV series they only showed them using Saucer Sep twice; and the second time it was only as a decoy maneuver.
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Because they knew she'd blow up and the Civilians would need a large lifeboat? (Sorry, but the 1701-D's Saucer Sep ability was one of the most poorly thought out elements - basically, it's:
"Okay, we're going into battle - lets put all the civilians that the rest of the working crew care about onto a slow moving, sublight only vessel which, when not connected to the anti-matter reactor has no firepower - and should we loose, an enemy will be able to find quickly, and capture or destroy easily..."
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There's a reason that in 7 years of the TNG TV series they only showed them using Saucer Sep twice; and the second time it was only as a decoy maneuver.
Actually, the real reason was because it cost a lot to do the effect shots for it. Remember, the Galaxy could separate at warp and the saucer could remain at a warp for a rather long time so it is not actually as slow as you make it out to be.
The dorsal and ventral main phaser array was also located on the Saucer so it was perfectly capable of defending itself.
Honestly, your hate on the Galaxy is somewhat transparent... considering you have an Excelsior in your signature. Its not opinion, it is fact that a Galaxy is superior to an Excelsior in every conceivable way considering the Excelsior structural defects and weaknesses.
The main source of the Galaxy's weakness, the neck was phased out in the next class starship... the Sovereign.
"The Galaxy class is more powerful then the Excelsior class. Period... No if, not buts... not maybes. Cryptic are WRONG."
I would have to agree. In games where money is not the driving factor behind ship design, the Galaxy-class has been accurately portrayed as having greater effectiveness compared to the Excelsior.
Just some examples of games that have gotten it straight.
Star Trek Armada (or II): Excelsior class ships, along with Mirandas, are so old that they aren't even included in the game. The Galaxy-class can easily spit out more firepower than the Akira, and has strong defenses.
Bridge Commander: Also, Excelsiors are so old that they aren't featured here. The Galaxy-class is a durable ship, but doesn't have as much firepower as the Sovereign.
"Excelsiors were built in a time of war." Yadda yadda yadda. Ross Rifles were built in a time of war too, but the modern ground weapons of the world (peacetime, don't forget) can easily outperform them.
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I would have to agree. In games where money is not the driving factor behind ship design, the Galaxy-class has been accurately portrayed as having greater effectiveness compared to the Excelsior.
"Excelsiors were built in a time of war." Yadda yadda yadda. Ross Rifles were built in a time of war too, but the modern ground weapons of the world (peacetime, don't forget) can easily outperform them.
I would tend to agree with you. I always thought the Galaxy was a large weapon that was built in the hope that she would never be used. She had superior tactical ability over the Excelsior and Ambassador, one of which was getting too old and was demoted to "workhouse" status and shuttling Admiral's around and the other was a dismal failure.
Then Cryptic came along and decided... "No... in the future the Excelsior will beat out even the new Federation Flagship, the Odyssey in firepower"... Where is the logic in that.
I mean, don't get me wrong... I hate the Odyssey but at least its a future ship... the Excelsior should be at the bottom of the performance pile... tis a perfect illustration of the bias of ships in this game.
Then Cryptic came along and decided... "No... in the future the Excelsior will beat out even the new Federation Flagship, the Odyssey in firepower"... Where is the logic in that.
I mean, don't get me wrong... I hate the Odyssey but at least its a future ship... the Excelsior should be at the bottom of the performance pile... tis a perfect illustration of the bias of ships in this game.
Ignoring your hatred for the Odyssey, I am inclined to agree. Why in the world would the crapcelsior be more powerful than the brand spanking new Odyssey? Dafuq Cryptic???
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
Ignoring your hatred for the Odyssey, I am inclined to agree. Why in the world would the crapcelsior be more powerful than the brand spanking new Odyssey? Dafuq Cryptic???
I have no issue with the Odyssey in game, I just don't like it because of the "canon" argument. I believe the ship is unworthy to be the successor to the Sovereign and to carry the name Enterprise because Cryptic let the community design it. They should have just asked Andrew Probert who states that he has NEVER been approached by Cryptic to design starships which is strange considering the commonly accepted canon ship classes (Akira, Ambassador, Galaxy etc...) are ALL his designs.
I have no issue with the Odyssey in game, I just don't like it because of the "canon" argument. I believe the ship is unworthy to be the successor to the Sovereign and to carry the name Enterprise because Cryptic let the community design it. They should have just asked Andrew Probert who states that he has NEVER been approached by Cryptic to design starships which is strange considering the commonly accepted canon ship classes (Akira, Ambassador, Galaxy etc...) are ALL his designs.
Except that it's only the successor to the Enterprise in this game. I have no doubt in my mind that the canon Ent-F would probably be a much different ship, since the Odyssey is going back the way of the Galaxy, big, fat, slow, and exploration based. She is a much more capable diplomat than fighter, which is hilarious considering that she was built during war.
The canon Ent-F would probably follow along the lines of the Sovereign, smaller, sleeker (ok, that's not possible, the Oddy is quite sleek), and better armed. She would be a fighting ship. Buuuuut since this game is not canon, you don't get a canonic response.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
That is simply because Cryptic seem to harbor this deep seated resentment for anything TNG related... its funny how there is only a TOS and DS9 pack available and that we've heard nothing about the TNG or VOY packs.
I just want the devs to stop playing favorites and actually get on Memory Alpha, do some research and make the ships as close as they can to their on-screen counterparts because the Galaxy, the Intrepid and now the Nebula have been shafted in favour of ships that are not actually canon - i.e. Vesta.
To be fair the basis of the romulan faction is off TNG episodes and movies
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Except that it's only the successor to the Enterprise in this game. I have no doubt in my mind that the canon Ent-F would probably be a much different ship, since the Odyssey is going back the way of the Galaxy, big, fat, slow, and exploration based. She is a much more capable diplomat than fighter, which is hilarious considering that she was built during war.
The canon Ent-F would probably follow along the lines of the Sovereign, smaller, sleeker (ok, that's not possible, the Oddy is quite sleek), and better armed. She would be a fighting ship. Buuuuut since this game is not canon, you don't get a canonic response.
You do know that Star Trek is not about "who has the biggest guns" right. The Federation only put weapons on their ships to defend them, even during wartime. Federation ships are not blindly focused on combat, they are focused a variety of tasks that Klingon vessels would simply never be able to achieve.
Technically, the Klingon's should never have Quantum Slipstream in this game because the Klingon Empire would hardly be interested in that technology. They are mostly brain-dead now and like big and better guns. Ever since the end of the Federation-Klingon Alliance made no logical sense.
Whilst it would be fantastic for Andrew Probert to design some starships for STO, I sincerely doubt that such a service would come cheap as a whole, even without the legalities that arise from such matters, as evidenced by how long it took to get Mark Rademaker's Vesta class into the game.
I agree. Although it is nice to allow the community to design a starship for the game, the Federation's next flagship should be designed by a professional.
(Side note: Anyone want Probert's version of the Ambassador ingame? AWESOME looking ship!)
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I agree. Although it is nice to allow the community to design a starship for the game, the Federation's next flagship should be designed by a professional.
(Side note: Anyone want Probert's version of the Ambassador ingame? AWESOME looking ship!)
Or how about if the winner had been chosen by someone with a modicum of good taste and an eye for design aesthetics? Followed by them choosing to use the monstrosity that became the Vet ship, surely there were better designs..... almost everyone that liked what became the vet ship said the design was good for a sleek cruiser IF the bottom hull was reworked... but then they use it as is for an escort? Nevermind the horrendous KDF Vet ship design.
Or any other spiky Tal Shiar ship, or the huge influence of Reunificationists or Donatra, or the whole behavior of Romulans...
Apart from a few names nearly all about Romulans is more linked to that movie than to the series which came before.
and still Star Trek X is a Next Generation film so the idea that they are ignoring TNG is invalid
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The dorsal and ventral main phaser array was also located on the Saucer so it was perfectly capable of defending itself.
True and not true.
They were the biggest guns on the Galaxy true. But without the power of the warpcore to pull from their viability was extremely limited as the onboard reactors of the Saucer section could not provide the power needed for its best showing. Personal opinion, it halved their effectiveness.
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Agreed.
But she is also more powerful than the Sovereign class.
Others will disagree, violently so at times +), but it is true. Even the schematics back it up.
Phasers work by passing a charge along the emitters in an array.
Each emitter on a Mk X array can produce 5.1Mw of power.
The main dorsal or upper array of the Galaxy class has roughly 950 emitters as seen on screen. (Power output per the tech manual is 5.1. The shows, however, indicate a much greater output. Also the tech manual lists the number of emitters at 200.)
So lets take the main phaser arrays of the Galaxy and the Sovereign and compare them.
Using the tech manuals we get:
Galaxy primary Dorsal array with 200 emitters @ 5.1Mw
Total output 1.02 Gigawatts.
Sovereign primary Dorsal array with 95 emitters(just under a 100) @ 7.1Mw
Total output 674 Megawatts.
Galaxy trumps the Sovereign in the big gun fight.
Go with on screen numbers and we get this.
Galaxy primary Dorsal array with 950 emitters @ 5.1Mw
Total output 4.85 Gigawatts.
Sovereign primary Dorsal array with 450 emitter @ 7.1Mw
Total output 3.2 Gigawatts.
She has bigger guns, larger reactor, and could easily be equipped with MkXII arrays boosting her output to 6.75 Gigawatts. Which more than doubles the output of the largest gun on the Sovereign.
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The Sovereign was in service during the Dominion War but you never see her... why... because it was an unreliable ship at that time to have in a battle. Remember, she was not even allowed to join the Battle at Sector 001 (Granted because of Picard) but also in the expanded novel, it stated that Starfleet did not want the Enterprise to suffer a catastrophic system failure and be assimilated by the Borg because of its advanced technology.
It was also too big and too impractical to build.
The same was actually true with the Defiant in the fact that Starfleet still had not figured out her basic problems before she was assigned to Deep Space Nine. Sisko even said himself that the ship was "overpowered and overgunned for a ship of her size".
Both ships lacked the superior tricyclic input manifold of the Intrepid which stabilised both structural integrity and provided a more stable warp field. The Intrepid is essentially a light cruiser as well, although I tend to think of her more as an interceptor/fast patrol ship.
However STO makes no reference to her speed, which is one of the key points about her design. Not even a Vesta Class (Which is not canon) can outrun an Intrepid at warp (Quantum Slipstream not counting due to its presence as an experimental and under-explained technology).
If anything, the Intrepid should join the Saber and Steamrunner as fast beam-based patrol ships, almost a beam escort in a way because that is what she was designed to do. The ONLY reason that she is a science vessel in this game is because Cryptic saw that Captain Janeway was a scientist before she was a Captain and made the mistake of saying "It must be a science vessel" and therefore shoehorned the Intrepid there.
The Nova is a true Science vessel because she is smaller then the Intrepid and tactically inferior but possesses better equipment. Remember, they were able to make a multiphasic forcefield chamber in their science lab which Voyager did not seem to be able to create without the schematics.
A tangential point, but this is explainable if you consider that DS9 is (or was, now that LoR is out) supposed to be an end-game hub. If you weren't on ESD, you were at DS9, but now that the Omega Force mechanics have been overhauled, you only really go there for DOff missions. I'm not commenting on whether this is good or bad becuase I just don't know Trek lore well enough to argue the point.
"Destroyed an Excelsior in one shot!" - Emissary DS9.
The Galaxy was the first ship to incorporate Mark X Phasers which were massive, onboard systems capable of producing massive amounts of energy per shot. Much more then an Excelsior could EVER produce, even the Lakota, which I might had only had its shields augmented and Quantum Torpedoes installed.
The whole basis for the modern powerful Excelsior is O'Brian stating "That's a lot of firepower for an Excelsior Class ship..." which indicates nothing. The Lakota was effectively a prototype was never actually an upgrade meant for the entire Fleet.
The Excelsior is really nothing more then a workhorse then, doing medium to heavy duty assignment between planets while the Galaxy went out into new and dangerous territory. Then during the Dominion War, the Galaxy was outfitted with additional firepower which could knock a Galor right back when it fired and additional armour for its "weak point" on the neck in case of suicide attacks.
I'm sorry to have to say this and I really wish I did not have to but the Galaxy is an always will be a SUPERIOR ship to the Excelsior and trying to make it otherwise just shows Cryptic's incompetence.
I just annoys me that newcomers to Star Trek and the game are getting completely the WRONG picture of the Galaxy Class and her capabilities.
It is a strong ship but the mindset of Starfleet of the time of her design failed her. She proves to be strong ship in DW but in comparision to the FC ships not as tacically oriented. I go on that Galaxy and Sovereign are two sides of the same coin. Galaxy more civilian orient and the Sovereign for combat, both capable of doing the other's job but not as well.
You know, I get pretty tired of posts like this that say that firepower equals strength... the Galaxy was the first starship with Mark X phaser strips able to put out a massive amount of damage. The Galaxy was designed to be multifunctional but also a powerful battleship so that the civilians aboard would be safe, why on earth would Saucer Seperation be such a prevalent feature on her?
She was designed for combat, just like any other Federation but in the hopes that a peace resolution could be met first.
Because they knew she'd blow up and the Civilians would need a large lifeboat? (Sorry, but the 1701-D's Saucer Sep ability was one of the most poorly thought out elements - basically, it's:
"Okay, we're going into battle - lets put all the civilians that the rest of the working crew care about onto a slow moving, sublight only vessel which, when not connected to the anti-matter reactor has no firepower - and should we loose, an enemy will be able to find quickly, and capture or destroy easily..."
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There's a reason that in 7 years of the TNG TV series they only showed them using Saucer Sep twice; and the second time it was only as a decoy maneuver.
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Actually, the real reason was because it cost a lot to do the effect shots for it. Remember, the Galaxy could separate at warp and the saucer could remain at a warp for a rather long time so it is not actually as slow as you make it out to be.
The dorsal and ventral main phaser array was also located on the Saucer so it was perfectly capable of defending itself.
Honestly, your hate on the Galaxy is somewhat transparent... considering you have an Excelsior in your signature. Its not opinion, it is fact that a Galaxy is superior to an Excelsior in every conceivable way considering the Excelsior structural defects and weaknesses.
The main source of the Galaxy's weakness, the neck was phased out in the next class starship... the Sovereign.
"The Galaxy class is more powerful then the Excelsior class. Period... No if, not buts... not maybes. Cryptic are WRONG."
"Excelsiors were built in a time of war." Yadda yadda yadda. Ross Rifles were built in a time of war too, but the modern ground weapons of the world (peacetime, don't forget) can easily outperform them.
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I would tend to agree with you. I always thought the Galaxy was a large weapon that was built in the hope that she would never be used. She had superior tactical ability over the Excelsior and Ambassador, one of which was getting too old and was demoted to "workhouse" status and shuttling Admiral's around and the other was a dismal failure.
Then Cryptic came along and decided... "No... in the future the Excelsior will beat out even the new Federation Flagship, the Odyssey in firepower"... Where is the logic in that.
I mean, don't get me wrong... I hate the Odyssey but at least its a future ship... the Excelsior should be at the bottom of the performance pile... tis a perfect illustration of the bias of ships in this game.
Ignoring your hatred for the Odyssey, I am inclined to agree. Why in the world would the crapcelsior be more powerful than the brand spanking new Odyssey? Dafuq Cryptic???
I have no issue with the Odyssey in game, I just don't like it because of the "canon" argument. I believe the ship is unworthy to be the successor to the Sovereign and to carry the name Enterprise because Cryptic let the community design it. They should have just asked Andrew Probert who states that he has NEVER been approached by Cryptic to design starships which is strange considering the commonly accepted canon ship classes (Akira, Ambassador, Galaxy etc...) are ALL his designs.
Except that it's only the successor to the Enterprise in this game. I have no doubt in my mind that the canon Ent-F would probably be a much different ship, since the Odyssey is going back the way of the Galaxy, big, fat, slow, and exploration based. She is a much more capable diplomat than fighter, which is hilarious considering that she was built during war.
The canon Ent-F would probably follow along the lines of the Sovereign, smaller, sleeker (ok, that's not possible, the Oddy is quite sleek), and better armed. She would be a fighting ship. Buuuuut since this game is not canon, you don't get a canonic response.
To be fair the basis of the romulan faction is off TNG episodes and movies
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You do know that Star Trek is not about "who has the biggest guns" right. The Federation only put weapons on their ships to defend them, even during wartime. Federation ships are not blindly focused on combat, they are focused a variety of tasks that Klingon vessels would simply never be able to achieve.
Technically, the Klingon's should never have Quantum Slipstream in this game because the Klingon Empire would hardly be interested in that technology. They are mostly brain-dead now and like big and better guns. Ever since the end of the Federation-Klingon Alliance made no logical sense.
Actually, most, if not all, of the Romulan faction is based on Star Trek X alone.
Oh of course, that explains D'tan and Sela and Dewa and the Iconians and all that other stuff that isn't a Scimitar or a Reman, right?
I agree. Although it is nice to allow the community to design a starship for the game, the Federation's next flagship should be designed by a professional.
(Side note: Anyone want Probert's version of the Ambassador ingame? AWESOME looking ship!)
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Or how about if the winner had been chosen by someone with a modicum of good taste and an eye for design aesthetics? Followed by them choosing to use the monstrosity that became the Vet ship, surely there were better designs..... almost everyone that liked what became the vet ship said the design was good for a sleek cruiser IF the bottom hull was reworked... but then they use it as is for an escort? Nevermind the horrendous KDF Vet ship design.
Or any other spiky Tal Shiar ship, or the huge influence of Reunificationists or Donatra, or the whole behavior of Romulans...
Apart from a few names nearly all about Romulans is more linked to that movie than to the series which came before.
and still Star Trek X is a Next Generation film so the idea that they are ignoring TNG is invalid
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True and not true.
They were the biggest guns on the Galaxy true. But without the power of the warpcore to pull from their viability was extremely limited as the onboard reactors of the Saucer section could not provide the power needed for its best showing. Personal opinion, it halved their effectiveness.
Agreed.
But she is also more powerful than the Sovereign class.
Others will disagree, violently so at times +), but it is true. Even the schematics back it up.
Phasers work by passing a charge along the emitters in an array.
Each emitter on a Mk X array can produce 5.1Mw of power.
The main dorsal or upper array of the Galaxy class has roughly 950 emitters as seen on screen. (Power output per the tech manual is 5.1. The shows, however, indicate a much greater output. Also the tech manual lists the number of emitters at 200.)
So lets take the main phaser arrays of the Galaxy and the Sovereign and compare them.
Using the tech manuals we get:
Galaxy primary Dorsal array with 200 emitters @ 5.1Mw
Total output 1.02 Gigawatts.
Sovereign primary Dorsal array with 95 emitters(just under a 100) @ 7.1Mw
Total output 674 Megawatts.
Galaxy trumps the Sovereign in the big gun fight.
Go with on screen numbers and we get this.
Galaxy primary Dorsal array with 950 emitters @ 5.1Mw
Total output 4.85 Gigawatts.
Sovereign primary Dorsal array with 450 emitter @ 7.1Mw
Total output 3.2 Gigawatts.
She has bigger guns, larger reactor, and could easily be equipped with MkXII arrays boosting her output to 6.75 Gigawatts. Which more than doubles the output of the largest gun on the Sovereign.
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Effing hell yes!
The D should have been able to ***** slap that klingon pos out of the sky in seconds.
Stop spamming this post.