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Traits in Lock Boxes... What the...

alarikunalarikun Member Posts: 3 Arc User
edited August 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
What the hell, Cryptic? Why are you putting TRAITS in Lock Boxes? That's... really annoying, and stupid (IMO). Traits should be dependent on Class and Race... not finding a special item that gives you a new trait.

Ugh... just wanted to vent and get people's opinions on it.
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    What do you mean traits in lockboxes? I didn't see anything about traits..
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    abyssinainabyssinain Member Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    u wot


    I didn't see any traits...
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    wmcarsonwmcarson Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/announcement.php?a=91

    4 traits....
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Look under "Genetic Sequencer" here.
    Genetic Resequencer: One of four new Traits, each packaged with one free Trait Respec. Each captain may only unpack each Trait a single time, after which time it will remain a permanent option they may select when choosing their Traits.

    Helmsman - Space Trait:
    +10% Flight Turn Rate
    Evasive Maneuvers cooldown reduced by 10sec
    Precise - Space Trait:
    +25% Accuracy vs. Small Targets (Torpedoes, Mines, Fighters, etc.)
    Conduit - Ground Trait:
    Extra Shield Heal when using Shield Charges.
    Extra Damage Bonus when using Power Cells.
    Disassembler - Ground Trait:
    +10% Damage vs. Non-Living Targets (Turrets, Holograms, etc.)
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    abyssinainabyssinain Member Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It sounds like it comes in a box, meaning it'll be purchasable on the exchange like just about every other shiny that comes in a lockbox.

    Don't want to spend money? Then just grind the EC for it.

    At least they package a respec with it.
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    cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Aw, c'mon - that's different. What do want?
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    neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    There are FOUR traits!!!!
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    jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Traits being in a lockbox makes me uneasy. Probably the first time a lockbox has left me concerned since the old Christmas box they started with containing the infamous and truly truly truly outrageous Jem Bug.
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    sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    There are FOUR traits!!!!

    I see what you did there :P ;)
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    sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'm ambivalent about this development.
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    ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    I see what you did there :P ;)

    His answer is a FAAAKE. There are 5 traits.
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    drake122svkdrake122svk Member Posts: 731 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well, this is essentially 4x free Trait Respec token... so expect it to be quite pricy on the exchange!
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    gpgtxgpgtx Member Posts: 1,579 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    hmm unsure how i feel about this. the traits them selfs are not overly great but this does open the door for the future
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    leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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    edited May 2013
    I assumed this was part and parcel of the trait revamp and why they expanded us to 8 traits.

    Of the four, Helmsman excites me most although none of these seem OP.

    I would like an alternate way to earn/buy them (even without a trait respec) just to make sure they remain steadily available.
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    thratch1thratch1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    gpgtx wrote: »
    hmm unsure how i feel about this. the traits them selfs are not overly great but this does open the door for the future

    The Helmsman one isn't bad, especially for people desperate for any extra turn rate. Plus, the EM cooldown reduction can be pretty handy.
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    sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    gpgtx wrote: »
    hmm unsure how i feel about this. the traits them selfs are not overly great but this does open the door for the future

    In my very best Nero voice: MONETISE EVERYTHING!!!!!! ;)
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    hasukurobihasukurobi Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I agree with the OP... Not much to add other than that. PWE always finds new ways to make me sad.
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    warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    sunfrancks wrote: »
    In my very best Nero voice: MONETISE EVERYTHING!!!!!! ;)

    Like designing and changing your uniforms to cost Zen each time?
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    dongemaharudongemaharu Member Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I've only casually heard about the new traits. Seems like just another way to make the game more complicated. Now I have to figure out how this works.
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    azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    You know, it's rather funny we're getting personality from a box. :D
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    arcademasterarcademaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    This was always on the table since the revamp, they specifically stated in the dev blogs about it one of the reasons to do it was so that traits could become rewards. It never ceases to amaze me how people feel blindsided by changes that were announced weeks in advance with a parade and neon signs.

    Let's see how rare/expensive these are. If they'll settle in the <1M EC range like cross faction consoles or mirror ships they'll be easily accessible to anyone. And that they come bundled with a free trait respec is pretty huge IMO. Imagine if you could buy skill respecs with EC, I'd be all over that.
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    kalvorax#3775 kalvorax
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    edited May 2013
    helmsman looks to be the ONLY good one IMO lol...but its still stupid to put traits in a box
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    guilli88guilli88 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Great, even more Pay to win
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    kregorkregor Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    guilli88 wrote: »
    Great, even more Pay to win

    With the slight exception of Helmsman, not a single one of those would contribute much to a "win".

    You can only really "pay 2 win" when the game is PvP-centric or just straight PvP. In STO, PvP is an ancillary distraction at best, and entirely dismissible as a worthless waste of code and time otherwise.

    Oh, and lets not forget that they'll end up like the console packs; Easily obtainable on the exchange for trivial amounts of EC for anyone with even an ounce of spare time.


    So, yeah, I'm not seeing any "pay 2 win".
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    mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    "Clever girl."

    So, I think I see it. This is 'tinfoil hat' theory here, but I think I understand. Sure these traits aren't really P2W or anything at all, but I see the cleverness of it. By tossing in trait respecs, that will get people to buy them, which in turn will mean they could possibly justify further traits and such in the future.



    But if they can do that, then why won't they at least put in skill respec tokens then into a box? Seriously, I'd honestly open boxes/buy them off the exchange if they did. En masse even.
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    captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I dont see the problem. they are extra traits you can buy with money or in game currency. you dont get an extra trait. you have to swap out one of your old ones.

    how is that any different from being able to buy a DOFF, or a bridge officer, or a ship or a console? everything in the game pretty much gives you a unique power or boost or makes your character better or at the least give them more options to choose from. why is this really any different?
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    nightbringer83nightbringer83 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The problem is the whole picture.
    First they make D'd Startrek icon turn like a whale.
    Then they give cash shop consoles with turn rate.
    Introduce set bonus with turn rate.
    Now a lockbox trait with turn rate.

    I can see what you did there Cryptic. :cool:
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    carrowcanarycarrowcanary Member Posts: 160 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    abyssinain wrote: »
    It sounds like it comes in a box, meaning it'll be purchasable on the exchange like just about every other shiny that comes in a lockbox.

    Don't want to spend money? Then just grind the EC for it.
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    maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    nightbringer83 wrote: »
    The problem is the whole picture.
    First they make D'd Startrek icon turn like a whale.
    Then they give cash shop consoles with turn rate.
    Introduce set bonus with turn rate.
    Now a lockbox trait with turn rate.

    I can see what you did there Cryptic. :cool:

    good more turn the better
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    aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Sub Nuke Doffs , Tac ships with Sensor Scan , Tac ships that can Tank like an Eng and now Blatant Power Sell with Traits .

    Yeah , this game has gone to the dogs .

    Bye Bye STO .
    I used to know you . I used to love you . I think it's time to file for a divorce .
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