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ltdansot
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I was killed twice today in Elite Infected Conduit. Both times by some invisible attack from the tactical cube at the end. Shields full, hull full, insta-dead. What is this?
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Nothing like that happens in STO... We (us who have experienced it), are just nuts.
From what my personal experience I'd say it's a HY Plasma Torpedo (which explains why it follows and kills players waaayyyy out of range of the enemy ships).
And it does not really bypass shields: it just does that much insane damage.
Not too long ago I was in Khitomer Accord (Elite) and one of my allies fired a HY Plasma at the first Tac Cube in that mission.
The Cube returned fire with its own HY Plasma and the two torpedes collided about 2 km off my starboard.
My ship exploded with a giant red 250,000 over my ship's hull.
It's "just" the bleedthrough (in my case through a MkXII KHG shield) that kills you.
The weapon doesn't really need to bypass shields for that.
Frankly I don't believe in invisible torps, I've heard people moaning about them but in 500+ runs of ESTFs I've never actually caught one on a combat log so I'm inclined to go with Cryptic on this one.
Kirk's Protege.
This looks like where I got killed the second time:
[Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube's Plasma Torpedo dealt 5018 (24228) shield damage to you.
[Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 216 (526) Plasma Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
[Combat (Self)] Tactical Cube deals 19907 (50564) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Torpedo.
ouch
Thanks for your insight, much appreciated!
These are tiny, brace for impact and polarize hull more! :P
Plus a Mk XII monotanium and you should be fine mate
Kirk's Protege.
I also have my settings such that nothing in the field of battle is unlabeled. I see the torpedoes all the time and shoot them down but sometimes they are invisible. I also have my six carrier pets on intercept and they don't see to see it either.
Believe me, if you are 12 km away from a cube you notice it, if some kind of glowing ball of death follows you.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
I know, but he said that he doesn't believe in invisible torpedoes.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
And no, they dont bypass the shields. I have survived one, in whixh my health dropped before my shields, shields followed a second later
Oh wait, invisatorpodeath does not exist! You guys must be crazy! Cryptic says there is no such thing so there is no such thing. :cool:
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It is more likely a delay from being hit with something, and then getting the effects of it 20 seconds later....
- Judge Aaron Satie
If I was an incandescent ball of plasma I believe my response would be "go to hell" ... if I was...
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It's a crit from a regular plasma torpedo. Regular torpedoes aren't laballed, like HY ones are. They get lost in the scatter lots of times.
Tried getting the optional on Infected Ground or just doing Cure Ground? Those final bosses pack one helluva punch, so there's no roflstoping those. Can't even finish Infected Ground unless you got a decent team and coordination. Armek... I have yet to beat him without a badass Medic Tank keeping him in melee.
But the invisitorps do exist! I am certain every one of us has fallen victim to their ninja ways at least once. The question is... how to defeat these powerful uberweapons that cause so much frustration...
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Is that all?
Mostly it's from the Gates though, maybe a few from a cube. I seem to think that misterde3 in post #5 is right as you see from your post #7. Although I haven't seen any of the damage go beyond 60k or so...
Another damage scaling weapon they have is a green cannon shot that'll knock a dent in your shields with one hit, or eliminate a shield facing all together. Sometimes its fired back to back and other times its not. I've had this cannon knock a shield facing down before and had my raw hull hit with one of those planet killing invisible torps. Lets just say that the mirror version of me isn't as cool as I thought he'd be.
Have you ever been in a match where the team uses the "pulsewave circle" method? It works best with two or more tactical officers, but it can be done without tactical officers. The method involves getting armek though a phase as quickly as possible via pulsewave shots. There is also the one hit kill method. Try getting a team of five tactical officers together, throw 5 copies of fire on my mark onto armek, and hit him with a super buff* from the fire team kit. He will die before he has a chance to say "We are the borg" a second time.
*For those that don't know, the tactical "super buff" is ambush + suppressing fire + battle strategies + target optics. After this, throw the plasma grenade from the kit (Grenades aren't "working as intended", they don't burn ambush on use). Next, press the aim key (default key X) and fire the secondary fire on the pulsewave. If tactical initiative is up, this attack can be repeated three times over the init's 20 second duration.
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It was twice in one STF, not day
So your shields actually absorbed an potential 27757 hull damage for 5018 damage to your shields. That means your shields had a kenetic damage resistance of 553% which is pretty good. You just didn't have enough shield left when the torp hit. You would have needed 8230 shield capacity on that facing for you to only receive the 10% bleedthrough.
it deals about 150k dmg in one shot with full shields..
tac cubes shoot them without cool downs it seems..
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
this, you can actually learn to watch when its coming through, but is awfully hard, that torp is an aberration that shouldn't exist, its a high yield torp that doesn't behave like a high yield one does, heavy plasma is supposed to be a giant ball not a regular plasma torp that happens to do as much damage as a heavy plasma does.
and it does have a cooldown, i would say its around 10-15 secs to shoot one.
also that torp is possible to tank, but you gotta predict when the borg are going to throw one at you sometimes.