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kiarasena
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Hello all.
Some or rather alot of you have noticed, that there are spambots, fail morons, etc going around and sending people in-game mail for egpal.. You can notice in many games that they are either bad in english, or simply a spambot by the fail grammar, half of the words start with capital while they shouldn't, and half doesn't, etc..
Quote from a preview site:
"Egpal.com is started by the small group connected with active MMO players based with Kowloon, Hong Kong HK."
Why am I not surprised about the "Hong Kong" part..? Oh right.. because alot of hackers, etc come from there.. I mean on private servers, retail games, alot of fly, damage, wall, etc hackers are from china or such countries..
So I guess it's only fitting that they add scams to their list.. And yes there are alot of normal players but most hackers and such do come from those areas.
As a fellow player I suggest to add whoever mails you to your ignore list, make a screenshot or such and report it.
DO NOT buy from them, if you search on google and such you will find that people have been scammed, etc..
Egpal is a scam and a fraud, many have bought and they did not recieve exp, lvls, credits, etc.
Stick to the STO/PWE market itself, use PayPal or such but do not buy from random sites, only the original.
I would like to suggest to Cryptic to make some automated system to prevent in-game mail to be sent with specific words/links etc in it.
www. Egpal .com (did space or it will give a url)
"egpal2013"
(Might edit it over time with more stuff as I will probably get more stupid in-game mail from those scammers.)
Some quote(s) from people who replied to some reviews about egpal:
"This site charges real life currency for fraudulent digital goods. Will they wipe your accounts clean, charge up your credit card and promise to deliver your ordered goods "someday"? Probably. They are based in foreign country and you have virtually no recourse against them if they do steal from you, and you are supporting them in the process. This group of online fraudsters illegally use software to spam advertise their site in game, always making a new character when one gets banned. This degrades the quality of the game for people trying to play by making communication in game hard to impossible. Please do not support this site."
Some or rather alot of you have noticed, that there are spambots, fail morons, etc going around and sending people in-game mail for egpal.. You can notice in many games that they are either bad in english, or simply a spambot by the fail grammar, half of the words start with capital while they shouldn't, and half doesn't, etc..
Quote from a preview site:
"Egpal.com is started by the small group connected with active MMO players based with Kowloon, Hong Kong HK."
Why am I not surprised about the "Hong Kong" part..? Oh right.. because alot of hackers, etc come from there.. I mean on private servers, retail games, alot of fly, damage, wall, etc hackers are from china or such countries..
So I guess it's only fitting that they add scams to their list.. And yes there are alot of normal players but most hackers and such do come from those areas.
As a fellow player I suggest to add whoever mails you to your ignore list, make a screenshot or such and report it.
DO NOT buy from them, if you search on google and such you will find that people have been scammed, etc..
Egpal is a scam and a fraud, many have bought and they did not recieve exp, lvls, credits, etc.
Stick to the STO/PWE market itself, use PayPal or such but do not buy from random sites, only the original.
I would like to suggest to Cryptic to make some automated system to prevent in-game mail to be sent with specific words/links etc in it.
www. Egpal .com (did space or it will give a url)
"egpal2013"
(Might edit it over time with more stuff as I will probably get more stupid in-game mail from those scammers.)
Some quote(s) from people who replied to some reviews about egpal:
"This site charges real life currency for fraudulent digital goods. Will they wipe your accounts clean, charge up your credit card and promise to deliver your ordered goods "someday"? Probably. They are based in foreign country and you have virtually no recourse against them if they do steal from you, and you are supporting them in the process. This group of online fraudsters illegally use software to spam advertise their site in game, always making a new character when one gets banned. This degrades the quality of the game for people trying to play by making communication in game hard to impossible. Please do not support this site."
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whoa way off base there buddy. I know a lot of HK based players who are just like you and me: players.
Don't make this a racial/country bias thing.
Agree with the rest of the post.
edit: This thread might qualify as a naming and shaming post actually despite the best of intentions
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Nope. She named no specific players or accounts, only what site was being commonly advertised.
Haha ok good to know.
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The grammar in the above quote is really bad. You should probably clean it up before accusing others of bad grammar.
Touche. :P
On a more serious note, it's pretty simple to recognize such mails and, you know, put them on your ignore list, report them, and the like. If somebody's stupid enough to fall for that, then they deserve to lose whatever they're going to lose.
Edit: Okay, this is awkward. Apparently you can spell it properly in the text editor, but when you actually try to post it, it converts into "?". Oh well.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
The quote below makes me think "investigate and take appropriate action" won't make a difference, though.
Still, I suppose you have to try. :P
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
I instinctivly thought; scamming and I searched the report spam button and at this time there are 4 to 5 peeps that are on my ignore list, along with some random obnoxiously annoying people...
Unfortunatly this is not new to startrek online, or to mmo's in general.
Those ****ers (yea, I am not holding back...) should be prosecuted and put away in jail.
And yes, I would be happy to pay for them while they are doing their time (paying for them being in prison... I am not handing out money like that... TRIBBLE you)
Its a matter of principle... Just because somebody is weakminded, does not mean you have to take advantage of those people. And that is exactly what those asses are doing with those scams.
Kill 'em all, the world will be better of without them.
Peace
The chat system is draconian WRT the "report" feature, why is the mail system so forgiving?
Redirect ALL mail with the word "egpal" in it to /dev/null with immediate effect.
Spammers and scammers are taking money that could be going into your coffers and as a lot of people are fond of pointing out, you are quite keen on making money. Why let some lamers steal it from your pockets?
Agreed...whoever falls for this is VERY stupid...
These guys need to be stoped i am getting sick of them.First they spammed the Chat system and now they are spamming the in game mail system bad enough i had to block all these annoying pricks in chat box now in game mail wtf i dont need this TRIBBLE.
And a few of people on my friends got the same stuff.
best thing is just hit the report button and ignore them.
Now an RMT thats tring to get personal information is much more likely.
RMT's dealing with STO aren't going to be able to get you a good deal. Period, end of line.
If you must deal with an RMT us a pre paid credit card, not one that draws on a typical savings or checking account. That way you can can still make rent and food for the month AFTER they go back and sponge up where ever other money is left on the CC. Assume RMT's are NOT on honest business. In most nations they are not considered either a legitimate business or a legal one.
I wonder how the Chinese would feel about having thier data infrastructure, industries, and entertainment services treated exactly the same way they seem to treat every one else? I include the Chinese government as China is still run by the party, and the people army.
Such activity would not happen with out the absolute permission of the government, the party, and the army. Do not assume that any RMT's operating out of China are anything other then a way of China gathering forign trade dollors, and gaining black money that can be used to support ongoing activities detrimental and destabilizing to other nations.
a Fact. Most if not all RMT's operating out of China are either tied to the people army,
or out right criminal orginizations operating without licence or sanction of any kind. The Ones tied to the army are at least honest and do indeed give you what you pay for. It keep customers happy and they come back for more. Most of thier customers being little minors and young adults and having no clue that they are helping to support international cyber terrorism.
5 years back I decided to do some digging into RMT's including, seeing that in a number of cases they had turned into some fairly profitable busnesses. I was going to invest. After checking with about 35 RMT's operating out of China I discovered I could not invest. Only chinese citizens can invest in them due to thier ties with the army.
Spread the word folks. We really don't want to support international cyber terrorisim!
P.S. Yea I know to some of you it may sound paranoid and like something out of the last century (the 20th, I'm sure you heard about it.. a lot of stuff happened!) Sometimes reality IS over the top. Funny thing is, is China doesn't even try particularly hard to conceal this.
Can't say I blame them.. after all, if other society's can't regulate thier OWN citizens into not funding hostile covert operations via obvious front orginizations, well, obviously this simply reveals the soft currupt inner core of these societies! People revolution just waiting for the right trigger! Please to Remember, the Chinese are still serious about communisim/socialism. They DO NOT look at things the way other nations do at all. And the cyber terrorisim orginating out of China, and supported by china is not done for the most part directly and maintains the illusion of spontaneous will of the people to act to support socialist revolution the world over... but... especially in the Unites.
Mao Tsetung might have started a much needed revolution in China, but the retoric of subversion continues apace with out him. Lot of true belivers in China. Just be aware.
All relating to selling STO credits and getting a discount.
Yes I have added the email addresses to my ignore box, but next day i get another one in from a different addy. Very bloody annoying.
Being a lifer, I did not pay to receive this and did not agree to have advertisement sent to my ingame email box.
Only thing that we can do is to put them under ignore. Its something all online games are suffering from.
STO could block it if they wanted to
You do understand that this is not from Cryptic/PWE, right? This is people creating free accounts as throwaways and trying to make a fast buck.
Do not just ignore these... use the report as spam option or open a ticket. That will alert Cryptic that they need to close down that account.
And how do they do that without blocking legitimate users?
Just as it is not easy to completely block spam from your personal email account, it's not easy to block it in the in-game mail system either.
Even if the game weren't F2P we'd still have to deal with goldspammers every now and then. But between closing profitable exploits and limiting the ability to spam, Cryptic can put a finger in the leaky dam and keep the flood back.
Link: How to PM - Twitter @STOMod_Bluegeek
Just for starters, block unconfirmed F2P accounts from sending email until they complete the tutorial. Boom you just added an hour to their time costs without harming legitimate users.
Or, you know, limit the volume of mail on new accounts to 5 mail per hour.
There are soo many ways. Dont be apologizing for cryptic, they made it low-priority because the legitimate customers arent complaining enough, your coming out to play interference for them just keeps it low priority.
I would be happy with options to automatically block mail coming from people not on my friends list, account, or fleet(s). Because honestly, those are the only places I want to get mail from.
Edit: Also, the way most of these sites work is by phishing account information from legitimate users, cleaning those accounts of their worth and then using those established account to spam more people into visiting their malware infested sites to repeat the process - much like a virus. There is nothing legal about it and the only throw-away accounts are the gibberish ones. If you get a mail from someone with even a slightly coherent name, that is a compromised account.
I know they limit chat for new users and thought they did for mail, too.
Do we know for a fact that mail is not limited for new users?
Link: How to PM - Twitter @STOMod_Bluegeek
Both chat and mail share the same limits. Either for the first 20 hours of play, has a Zen balance (though not sure if it means those bought for cash or dilithium) or has made a c-store purchase. Meeting any of these conditions will unlock the mail system.
http://sto.perfectworld.com/about/freetoplay/features-matrix
And never know, PW could take advantage of these spammers by offering early mailbox unlock for a cost of 1000 zen.
That should keep theese mails out of your box.
TBF given the OP title you can see how confusion might arise
Kirk's Protege.
Try to play their game.
You see, I've responded to the past two mails with "I'd love to buy some, but I need to make sure it's real first.", trying to provoke them into A: proving they don't have the EC, B: tricking them into giving me some free EC, or C: ALMOST tricking them into doing so.
So far, neither mail has been answered.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Meh... in that case, don't post your handle at random forums...
I havn't recived a single of theese so-called spam mails in 3+ years.