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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    They're for a rather weak, extremely rare ship that hardly anyone uses. Ooooooooh Nooooooooooooo.
  • blagormblagorm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    erocker wrote: »
    Ponies are dramagic. :D

    I had no idea they snuck elite jem hadar fighters in there... Dammit.

    Two things...

    1: A Cat With a Pipe and Monocole.... way cute.. so cute I ate that cat with my crew (lol)

    2: Lets put it this way... I am happy for all this stuff but I see much copy and pastes for KDF as well as the last things that make KDF KDF going away... but I am happy we are now getting attention :)
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Why do you say that? DS9 ran from 1993-1999 and was set in 2369-2375... So, there's no direct analogue.

    Edit: Or maybe you just meant it's strange that the year hasn't ticked up since the game was released? Apologies if I misread.

    He means that the year hasn't ticked up. The in-character dev blogs have given some clear progression of events, but they imply that it's been weeks or months and not the years it's been for players. DS9 ran 6 years and the setting progressed 6 years. STO's ran 3 years and the setting has progressed maybe six months.
  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    hevach wrote: »
    He means that the year hasn't ticked up. The in-character dev blogs have given some clear progression of events, but they imply that it's been weeks or months and not the years it's been for players. DS9 ran 6 years and the setting progressed 6 years. STO's ran 3 years and the setting has progressed maybe six months.

    MMOs rarely (and sometimes never) really advance from their starting timeframe. That's often something you (as a player) need to decide for yourself as to how fast or how much time passes. yes, the game itself has been running for 3 years; but a new player (who may have just discovered the game) doesn't really care about that - and advancing the time in game takes a fair amount of work in redoing text on already finished content, etc.
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    MMOs rarely (and sometimes never) really advance from their starting timeframe. That's often something you (as a player) need to decide for yourself as to how fast or how much time passes. yes, the game itself has been running for 3 years; but a new player (who may have just discovered the game) doesn't really care about that - and advancing the time in game takes a fair amount of work in redoing text on already finished content, etc.

    It doesn't take any of that. All it takes is indicated order of events, even its uninforced (STOs is weakly enforced thanks to the skip button). A game can depict both past and current events by offering them sequentially with the latest in sequence being designated as current.

    Most MMOs do advance their starting timeframe in that way - every major update in WoW, for example, has advanced the story. With it the big bad of the previous content is considered canonically defeated and the new big bad is the greatest threat to the world. Different games vary on how much of the "past" players have to go through to get to the present, but the past doesn't have to be changed, since it's still the present to any player at that point in the story.
  • f9thaceshighf9thaceshigh Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    personally, I don't think it'll make that much of a difference, KDF NPCs already have Battlecloaks and I hardly ever see the AI use it, how will some weak pets having this power they never use make any difference?
  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Considering Stalkers can only be launched from an Atrox.. /shrug

    It's the Yellowstones that really catch my eye. I'm hoping the Orion Interceptors got something nice to keep some kind of pace with them.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Meh. A pet npc even with a BC seems trivial to me to argue on.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    szerontzur wrote: »
    Considering Stalkers can only be launched from an Atrox.. /shrug

    It's the Yellowstones that really catch my eye. I'm hoping the Orion Interceptors got something nice to keep some kind of pace with them.

    Is the yellowstone the TB3/EWP pet?
    I honestedly have not looked at the new pets yet.
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  • deyvaddeyvad Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies .

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  • projectfrontierprojectfrontier Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    For Star Trek sake, "KDF is over", "End of KDF" and such titles of threads are becomming very old very fast. Give it a rest. The KDF survived much harder times, so it's not about to fall apart when it finally is shaping up to become a proper full faction.

    You forgot option three - you lodge an argument against the OP that doesn't come across as insipid and pointless back-biting because your beloved Cryptic was criticized.

    I will lead by example - battle cloaks suck, and unless stalker fighters have taken the place of those annoying runabouts, the suck of the battle cloak will likely only make people who buy them cry.
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    deyvad wrote: »
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~Bluegeek
    PWE has Strict English only policy.

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  • projectfrontierprojectfrontier Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    age03 wrote: »
    PWE has Strict English only policy.

    Except for the people they're hiring to localize in Mandarin.
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Except for the people they're hiring to localize in Mandarin.

    That is off site on the board and anyone using that other site will be banned.
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    It's one thing to have an issue with it, but to make threads such as this? Where's your honor, man? :D
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    The whole point of the signature was that it is near impossible to type that saying in french, much less any language, while walking past the Cafe Dumonde holding a screaming stanley in one hand, smoking a hand rolled belacosi cigar and my phone in a crowd of people dancing to the music.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    Is the yellowstone the TB3/EWP pet?
    I honestedly have not looked at the new pets yet.

    Yes they are.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Yes they are.

    Chronitons (if they are buffed by the hy ability for 100% hold), TB3 and EWP is going to be CC nightmare.
    At least now the feds should not be able to complain so loudly on drain boats of the KDF as they have an excellent chance to make thier on CC boats to harras us in pvp.
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  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    They gave STALKERS battle cloak.

    Stalkers are already a poor choice for damage output, and they already had masked energy signatures that made them nearly invisible to the enemy and twice as hard to hit - why did they need battlecloaks?
  • sechserpackungsechserpackung Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I wouldn't worry about those stalkers.

    Right now by the looks of it ALL the romulan ships have a battlecloack.
  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Slightly off-topic... Will Scorpions be the only flyable fighters in the game with a battle cloak?
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    bluegeek wrote: »
    Slightly off-topic... Will Scorpions be the only flyable fighters in the game with a battle cloak?

    I have a feeling they will be the only one.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • xantrisxantris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Stalkers are terrible. I'm a KDF and a big hater on the feds getting our cool toys, but even I'm not upset about this one.

    Those yellowstones are going to make the PvP crowd super angry though.
  • heresincebetaheresincebeta Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I have the elite mesh weavers for my recluses... they are a bit underwhelming.
  • starsvoidstarsvoid Member Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    For Star Trek sake, "KDF is over", "End of KDF" and such titles of threads are becomming very old very fast. Give it a rest. The KDF survived much harder times, so it's not about to fall apart when it finally is shaping up to become a proper full faction.

    I actually enjoy them. I feel it helps contribute to the STO game universe where the Empire is hanging on the ragged edge, trying to survive in a war against a multitude of honorless and strangely impotent foes.
  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Giving stalkers battle cloak is just barely enough to get an Atrox pilot interested enough to cough up the dil and credits for them. Even then, I only want them for hanging out outside ESD with some cloaked fighters. I'm vain, I'll pay for pretty.

    Stalkers aren't like Bird of Prey pets at all. The BoPs have teeth, so the battle cloak is nice for upping damage. Stalkers don't keep up with other pets for damage, the battle cloak isn't likely to bring their damage up to that of a Peregrine, let alone a Scorpion, for the duration of the alpha strike. Forget about its damage over time if you are trying to constantly pull them off to make them burst with their cloak.

    Admittedly I do not have them yet and may possibly change my mind after actually getting to use them, but I have the advanced ones. If you can do anything other than giggle over them getting battle cloak rather then a proper torpedo or damage ability you don't understand how laughable Stalkers are in the first place. Just about any other ability would have had more true impact then a cloak.
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Is anyone close to tier 5 science in a Klingon Fleet?

    We have to balance the terms of the next engagement.
  • aveimperatoraveimperator Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    All I see here is knee-jerk reactions from KDF babies whining about Feds getting a (laughably minor and insignificant) buff to one of our most useless fighters (from amongst our already ridiculously small choice pool) that will make absolutely zero difference in the grand scheme of things.

    Honestly, KDF whines about having less content, but they have the best ships and toys in the game. Give it a rest.
  • admiralandyadmiralandy Member Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I think there needs to be some perspective here.

    The context is an extension of Caitain based technology (Thoron stealth) on the fighters of the Caitain specific ship.

    Caitain not Federation.

    Perhaps there will be a battle cloak CAITAIN escort/cruiser/sci ship in the future.

    Do I necessary want to play it??? Every time a new Fed ship comes out its the end of the klingon faction and pvp game balance. Heard the same thing about the Vesta shield powers, and the Andorian 5 hardpoints up front (storm in a teacup BS).

    Surely if this was an issue then why isn't the cloaking of the Tier 5 Romulan reward not an issue.

    Cloak and still fire even if only a few seconds... If you want to focus on a thin end of the wedge there it is. Essentially with the Romulan Rep any ship can have cloaking. how long before a cooldown on cloak doff gets introduced or one that upscales the length.

    If the Devs really wish to undermine the cloak enjoyed by the Klingons, they've already got something now in game they could play with to do so.
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