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STO as a game,turning into a Job????
chaz200565
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As is known,this game is not all shootem ups. Theres alot more to it,and its very time consuming,especially with running a fleet and general future strategy.
Arranging and doing projects,getting resources and so on.
Sometimes,I think this game seems more like a Job than a game.
Not everyone will agree,but who does agree????
Just wondering.
Arranging and doing projects,getting resources and so on.
Sometimes,I think this game seems more like a Job than a game.
Not everyone will agree,but who does agree????
Just wondering.
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While this if fun and fine for a certain amount of time It can wear you down. If you're not enjoying it A simple answer is step-down from the role, perhaps suggest someone else take-on the responsibility. Alternatively, a more drastic action is to just stop playing the game.
Good luck!
Still New Rom feels less grindy then Omega.
Still point I'm making is we've got Tholian Rep coming and if anyone thinks I'm doing all this grinding again on a Romulan toon they can forget it. If anything I might take one to max level then delete it and just play for the story.
That said, this game is only a job if you treat it like one. If you're not playing for fun, then its time to ask why are you "playing"?
My fleetmates have given me some funny reactions when they find out I'll continue doing Tau Dewa Patrols even after I've finished the daily - because I find the constant skirmishes to be an enjoyable activity in and of itself. There was a time when games were little more than just that.. and people still had a blast. STO has that and so, so much more. It's all a matter of perspective.
i was trying the foundry, but it felt more like work than a game so i stopped.
back when i first started playing i created a couple other characters. grinding for 3 felt like work, so again, i stopped.
i have started using my other 2 alts now, but take my time. my primary character comes first and the other 2 get time when i feel like it.
i do regret starting the crystaline entity on all 3 because it feels like work. had the CE been designed to be a little more challenging and fun it might not be so bad, but i find it boring.
i am certain beyond any reason of a doubt that i will never start a romulan or any other character because more grind makes it feel like work.
My issue(as well as many others) is the fact that STO has an affinity with per-character stuff. With the sheer number of alts that everyone has the sheer number of per-character progression; as opposed to account wide progression is irritating and depressing.
The length of said grinds is unfulfilling as well. The linearity of rewards and the length between rewards is off the scale. Causing most to stop the 'grind' before finishing on the characters they want and many to quit before finishing even one character.
The freshest memory of terrible design decision in terms of reward v time; would be the new CE event reputation. It's a time gated event, with a larger reward but a large time investment. Instead of it being being 15/24(I'm at work and can't remember the exact number of shards out of the total..so sorry if it's incorrect) for 100k dil, it should have been turn in 5 for a third of the reward.
That way you have a shorter investment and a more 'instant gratification' process but also still have the long term investment if you want it. The grand majority of the progression, systems, etc in the game follow this same scheme.
In short; the time to reward ratio(for me, and I suspect many others..) is just off.
The man with 14+ toons speaks the truth. Taking a step back and doing something else ultimately lets you enjoy the game more. I run 4 toons only, as I'm desperately trying to build up a starbase. I've found myself playing a lot more EU III lately for the change of pace. It's helping out a lot.
Because I have lots of time and access to the Internet and web browsers throughout my day. Playing the game in the evenings, not so much.
Admin Fleet -> Gateway
Start DOFF assignments -> Gateway
Moving items from character/ship to inventory and vice versa -> Gateway
Moving items from bank to account bank and vice versa -> Gateway
Changing BOFF/DOFF roster -> Gateway
Exchange -> Gateway
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Well no, because my job pays me money, not the other way around.
I really like the 'Badass points' of Borderlands 2, was really nice to have a little something on your next character to get it rolling. Same with the account unlock legacy c-store items, I like going through and unlocking them on new characters.
What you are expirienceing, can't be healthy.
Since nothing was done when my fleet lost its T4.5 starbase and T2 embassy to ONE TRIBBLE ACCOUNT, I'd advise ignoring that fleets exist for the most part.
So now I keep the time I spend playing down to a minimum, though I have logged in for about an hour each day to quickly run Crystalline Catastrophe on each of my toons. Every few days I will log in for a few hours and do some EC and Dil grinding in preparation for LoR but beyond these things I don't do much.
The thing I find amusing is that in the year I spent playing before taking my break I posted a total of 60ish times here on the forums. Since the LoR preview site went up that number has gone up to 224 times...well 225 with this post. Nothing like finally getting the group you have always wanted to play to make one pay attention.
I read about that on Massively today. That's rough. I hope you guys are able to pull something from the wreckage and hope you get the continued support of the community to rebuild.
Been hearing about this lately but I haven't been able to find any details on what happened. That is really rough, kind of puts my fleet problems in perspective, it could always be worse.
Our brains are wired a certain way regarding needs. Advertising at all levels from TV to online, to even what items a store places near the cash register are designed to manipulate this bit of our brain and make us think a want is a need. One of the most powerful drivers of this mistake is competitiveness. "If bob can do this and has that, then I need to do it better and have more" thinks our brain.
When it hits in an MMO, it makes any process lose the appeal. But that is just perception, no different than putting on green glasses and thinking your neighbor just painted his white house.
It happens in real life every time Apple releases a new iphone or ipad. And it happens in games like STO too.
The problem is with us, not with the game.
Take a breath, stand back and realize that you don't NEED anything that you don't already have. fleet weapons? T5 reputation? both optional. if it takes you 4 years to max out, so what? Is your fleet going to send thugs to your house to kneecap you because you're not grinding dilithium fast enough?
Play the parts of the game you enjoy and ignore the rewards as much as possible. Stuff piles up over time no matter what you do. Stuff meaning marks, dil, and energy credits.
Just play it like a game and ignore the reward. and that means if it stops being fun take a break and come back later.
STO, in comparison, is a walk in a rose garden.
but i agree, they should just let the project "run out" when an event is not available anymore. or save the shards for next time it will be available.
just came home after a long day and i cannot really imagine to play it 5 times.
I discussed this with Branflakes with me one day and asked why I wasn't having fun, and I told him point-blank that STO is like a job.
Prior to F2P, I could just play one character and enjoy myself flying around and doing the things I wanted to do. If I wanted to switch a character, I could. But when F2P came, I had no choice but having to devote my time in doing DOFFing, STF grinding, and working on Dilithium to "make a living".
Then Starbaes came then I had to devote MORE time to working on my Starbase, then the Embassy came then that took more of my Dilithium, which made me having to work hard on my 6 mains. And then I realized, I no longer had any real personal time.
Now with LoR, I now have to devote even MORE time to the three new Romulan characters that I wanted to create. And I learned that the more characters you got in STO, the more work you have to do to maintain them.
That is why people have left, because people got tired of maintaining their characters instead of actually having fun. All the channels that were alive and now dead, because people just had it with "the job". It's not about fun anymore, its all about earning Fleet Marks or Dilithium.
Wish Cryptic realized it.
Dilithium clam? Sounds delicious!!
They do realize it. You're making money for them at a little under minimum wage.
When we tire of toiling in their mines, there will be others to come along.
when the Game feels like a job, it is time to find a new Game
//not to say you should ignore your in-game responsibilities, but RL is more important then the game. and no one should stress over a game
How can I be making money for them if I don't put any money into it? :P