So we have entered the Hive, got out, killed the Queen.
Has Cryptic announced anything what the aftermath will now be with the Borg? Are they defeated in the Alpha Quadrant or are they still standing strong?
According to Stowiki.org, when a Borg Queens dies, then another Queen rise up and takes over.
So I know that the Borg is not defeated, but this is Alpha Quadrant and not Delta Quadrant so they should be dissorientated or something... if they don't keep a stock of Queens at the basement.
The next thing would be a "Return of Sela" Feature Episode. Who knows after that.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
My thoughts are that we did something to the Collective so a Borg Queen doesn't keep on showing up. My idea is the loss of a Borg Queen fractures the Collective to such a degree that various Borg factions appear. There is the classic borg faction that strives for perfection through assimilation, the borg faction wants to make amends for their centuries of horror on the universe, and the playable borg faction that want to find their way in the galaxy. There will be other factions as well.
My thoughts are that we did something to the Collective so a Borg Queen doesn't keep on showing up. My idea is the loss of a Borg Queen fractures the Collective to such a degree that various Borg factions appear. There is the classic borg faction that strives for perfection through assimilation, the borg faction wants to make amends for their centuries of horror on the universe, and the playable borg faction that want to find their way in the galaxy. There will be other factions as well.
Exactly, there must be some extensive damage, like internal bleeding in the collective. But if we are going into cannon stuff.. in First Contact when the Borg Queen died, the rest of her drones died as well.
My point is anyway, is the main threat eliminated or was we setup to think that Borg Queen is the cause of everything wrong in this universe or not.
Click your heels together, and say,"There's no place like ESD, There's no place like ESD."You remembered to get the ruby combat boots from the loot drop, right?:D
well, for example... seven was supposed to be the next queen if voyager didn't take her... and in the books that takes after the last episode of voyager it talks about borg's queen protocol which means the next female that the Borg assimilate will be the next queen.
well, for example... seven was supposed to be the next queen if voyager didn't take her... and in the books that takes after the last episode of voyager it talks about borg's queen protocol which means the next female that the Borg assimilate will be the next queen.
So in retrospect, nothing changes, nothing happens.
Starfleet has already killed a couple of Borg Queens so either the Queen is a meaningless figurehead and it doesn't matter who is in charge or Starfleet knows the Queen will pop up eventually and came up with some insurance policy like a virus uploaded into the Collective so the Borg are not much of a threat for at least a while.
Riker killed her once...
Picard killed her once...
Janeway killed her at least once (perhaps twice... we never got that confirmed)
You also killed her twice (provided you did both ground and space).
... I think we MAY see some incarnation of her in the future.
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
If you ask me, the perfect solution to the Borg's expansion was the Undine.
And Janeway kinda messed up that easy amendment of the assimilative trouble.
Darn that idiot of a Starfleet Captain with her doom bringing wish to return home.
Riker killed her once...
Picard killed her once...
Janeway killed her at least once (perhaps twice... we never got that confirmed)
You also killed her twice (provided you did both ground and space).
... I think we MAY see some incarnation of her in the future.
Where's Tassadar when you need him?
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I don't think the queen is dead. She brings order to chaos, much like Lore did in a couple of TNG episodes.
I'd imagine the Borg would have adapted for such a possibility happening again and have some sort of safeguard, much like the human cylon designs in BSG. They die, and their consciousness is simply "downloaded" into another body. It would make sense the Borg would have something very similar to this.
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Exactly, there must be some extensive damage, like internal bleeding in the collective. But if we are going into cannon stuff.. in First Contact when the Borg Queen died, the rest of her drones died as well.
My point is anyway, is the main threat eliminated or was we setup to think that Borg Queen is the cause of everything wrong in this universe or not.
And yet they were in Voyager. Think of it this way, you have a router with a wan and five port lan. One device on the lan power surges and that surge potential travels through the lan ports and damages attatched devices yet any device connected via wan is spared.
I find this line of replies sadly hilarious. We put a lot of work into the massive list of fixes/changes above, and ya'll are hung up on the ability to skip our content. =p
I have often wondered why the Queen exists at all. I mean as a collective they don't need any one drone to stand out, they don't need a figure of authority. So why have her in the first place?
But yeah, since in my eyes she is just another drone for the collective, she's easily replaced. Probably have hundreds of flat-pack queens stored somewhere like an Ikea warehouse.
I have often wondered why the Queen exists at all. I mean as a collective they don't need any one drone to stand out, they don't need a figure of authority. So why have her in the first place?
But yeah, since in my eyes she is just another drone for the collective, she's easily replaced. Probably have hundreds of flat-pack queens stored somewhere like an Ikea warehouse.
I don't think there's any satisfactory in-universe explanation.
There's only the out-of-universe explanation the people in charge wanted a "person" that Picard and Data could confront in "First Contact".
I remember a time when the borg were a scary, decentralized collective, when you could destroy 70% of a borg cube's mass and have done absolutely -nothing- to reduce it's threat level, when they didn't have a shoddily written figurehead/achilles heel shoehorned in to provide Picard with somebody to disintegrate at the end of a cheap action movie. Back before Voyager made it possible for a fracking shuttlecraft to disable a Borg ship with a lucky shot, and before the Borg turned into the bumbling lackeys of an incompetent, hammy grey she-zombie.
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So I know that the Borg is not defeated, but this is Alpha Quadrant and not Delta Quadrant so they should be dissorientated or something... if they don't keep a stock of Queens at the basement.
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Exactly, there must be some extensive damage, like internal bleeding in the collective. But if we are going into cannon stuff.. in First Contact when the Borg Queen died, the rest of her drones died as well.
My point is anyway, is the main threat eliminated or was we setup to think that Borg Queen is the cause of everything wrong in this universe or not.
So in retrospect, nothing changes, nothing happens.
Locutus of Borg: The Queen is dead. QUICK, MY COLLECTIVE, FOLLOW ME!!
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Picard killed her once...
Janeway killed her at least once (perhaps twice... we never got that confirmed)
You also killed her twice (provided you did both ground and space).
... I think we MAY see some incarnation of her in the future.
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Why are you not rejoicing?
And Janeway kinda messed up that easy amendment of the assimilative trouble.
Darn that idiot of a Starfleet Captain with her doom bringing wish to return home.
:rolleyes:
Where's Tassadar when you need him?
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Support the "Armored Unicorn" vehicle initiative today!
Thanks for Harajuku. Now let's get a real "Magical Girl" costume!
I'd imagine the Borg would have adapted for such a possibility happening again and have some sort of safeguard, much like the human cylon designs in BSG. They die, and their consciousness is simply "downloaded" into another body. It would make sense the Borg would have something very similar to this.
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And yet they were in Voyager. Think of it this way, you have a router with a wan and five port lan. One device on the lan power surges and that surge potential travels through the lan ports and damages attatched devices yet any device connected via wan is spared.
waiting for something worse than the zerg to happen to the galaxy now that Sarah and her swarm left :P
There's a whole revolver full of new ones waiting to replace her.
But yeah, since in my eyes she is just another drone for the collective, she's easily replaced. Probably have hundreds of flat-pack queens stored somewhere like an Ikea warehouse.
I don't think there's any satisfactory in-universe explanation.
There's only the out-of-universe explanation the people in charge wanted a "person" that Picard and Data could confront in "First Contact".
I hate the queen so much.
Worst. Idea. Evar.