Fleets are either FED or KDF. Romulans can create a FED or KDF Fleet, but then only allow Romulans in if they want. This was done for the reasons stated in the Ask Cryptic.
Ok...so for those fleets that are nearing Tier 5, they already have 400-500 members. Let's say only half of them want to make a Romulan or Reman character, will the fleet cap of 500 be raised to deal with this? Otherwise they fleets would have have to not allow many new members, kick people out, or have the players go with a different group than those they've been playing with.
If the cap was 500 Feds and 500 Fed-aligned Romulans, that would work.
No self-respecting Klingon would ever willingly help, much less, ally themselves with a Romulan.
The KDF hated the Feds as much as they ever hated the Romulans. That changed. And changed again. And changed again.
The KDF respect honorable warriors. The Republic broke away from the Empire, they are NOT the same body of government that they have loathed.
They aren't "racists" as much as they are intolerant of the Romulans they "dealt with".
The KDF had an alliance with the Romulans through the Kirk era hence the Strormbird D-7 warships seen in "The Enterprise Incident", and it wasn't just house Duras limited alliance, it was a "whole" alliance at that time.
For all we know, this whole "choose your side" thing could actually mean more content for Romulans to play through. It has been stated that the choice affects some higher level game elements. Maybe we'll even be able to explore very different content for Romulans working with the KDF and Romulans working with Starfleet (and content that also stands apart from the generic faction/endgame/featured series stuff that we all have played and grinded to death).
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I am quite relieved that there will be no Romulan base progression right off the bat. And to those that feel cheated by this revelation, it makes sense as the Romulans are a defeated people trying to establish a new home world. How could you possibly believe that if rommy bases started sprouting up all over the tau dewa sector. They are no longer the power house of the quadrant like they were in the past. And be thankful that you are getting a "free" expansion.
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Question: Will our Romulan toons be able to access the Bridge Officers of our allied faction? Will we be able to have a Vulcan work on our singularity core, or an Orion at the conn?
They tout Romulans having their own storyline, but really you will just graft on to one of the other factions. There will only be FED-Roms or KDF-Roms, no real Romulans, whether they've got unique missions or not.
Leave it to Cryptic to destroy what the Federation, the Klingons, and even the Dominion could not; one of the most beloved factions of Star Trek lore.
I guess it's my fault for hoping they'd do the right thing instead of half-measure it.
''Together, you will rise up against an oppressive regime and demand freedom. You will fight for your people.''
what it should say is
Together, you will rise up against an oppressive regime and demand freedom..... failing that you will fight your own people while fighting for some else
They tout Romulans having their own storyline, but really you will just graft on to one of the other factions. There will only be FED-Roms or KDF-Roms, no real Romulans, whether they've got unique missions or not.
Leave it to Cryptic to destroy what the Federation, the Klingons, and even the Dominion could not; one of the most beloved factions of Star Trek lore.
I guess it's my fault for hoping they'd do the right thing instead of half-measure it.
Okay, I've just read the latest Ask Cryptic (March/Legacy of Romulus) and in truth, I'm 50/50 on it. When I heard (and saw) the Romulans were coming, I was excited, I was pleased; finally our prayers had been answered. Then came a couple of details that I wasn't too pleased about.
I'm only covering the questions (and answers) that I find to be in contradiction of others, or that I wish to state an opinion on. Those I've not quoted are either because they're fine with me, or they're unrelated to the May Update.
Lets analyze:
Q: (kekvin) What races (species) will be in the Romulan faction?
Dstahl: At the launch of Legacy of Romulus there will be Romulans, Remans, and Alien-Gen hybrids. Reman species are an account unlocked reward that will be added to the New Romulus Reputation or available for purchase. Alien-Gen hybrids may only be created by Subscribers or Lifetime members. In the future we will be adding more species to the Romulan faction.
So, basically, unless we've paid (or are paying) to play this game, we're limited to Romulans at the start. No Reman, and none of these Hybrids.
I at least expected Remans playable at the start.
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Q: (midniteshadow7) Will the Romulan Faction have their own Fleet System, Starbase, and Holdings? Will there be any new Fleet Holdings?
Dstahl: During one of the episodes in the Romulan Republic storyline, the Federation and Klingon Defense Force will challenge Romulan captains to choose sides in the Federation-Klingon War. This permanent and personal choice forges a very important alliance. Once this decision is made, individual Romulan captains will gain many benefits through their alliance, all the while remaining their own independent faction. Romulans still continue their own independent mission journal and storyline after this choice, remaining neutral within the Romulan faction, but the choice has an impact on their progression towards end-game.
I think you missed out on a very important chance to do something new here.
Federation & Klingons ~ they're at war. They've got Starbases in ETA Erandi. The Romulans are not at war with anyone, but could have benefited from a similar system. It was mentioned on another thread somewhere that their 'starbase' should be on a planet instead, thus you'd have a similar setup (for the rewards and like) but it would be more a neutral location. It would have served a perfect purpose too.
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Q: (midniteshadow7) Will the Romulan Faction have their own Fleet System, Starbase, and Holdings? Will there be any new Fleet Holdings?
Dstahl: In many ways, Romulans will have the best of two "worlds" ? theirs and their ally?s. Not only do they have their own exclusive stories, ships, and costumes, but they gain many benefits of their ally. This includes access to a variety of their allies? ships, rewards, and hubs. While Romulans can?t wear the actual uniform of their ally, they do gain unique costume options, such as a Romulan Republic/Klingon Uniform variant, for example. So when a Romulan creates a Fleet, they are creating a Fleet that is open to Romulans of a chosen allegiance as well as members of that allegiance. Vice-a-versa, they?re also free to join existing fleets of their chosen ally.
You're giving Romulans access to Federation and Klingon ships? I can see most of the level 1 - 50 Romulan ships will actually be Federation or Klingon. What chances are there that the Romulans will only have, what, 6 ships of their own? :rolleyes:
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Q: (midniteshadow7) Will the Romulan Faction have their own Fleet System, Starbase, and Holdings? Will there be any new Fleet Holdings?
Dstahl: Our goal is to encourage existing Fleets, many of whom have spent countless hours on their Starbases, to stay in business and welcome in New Romulans instead of splintering to go "do it all over again". We want captains to group with Fleet mates who decide to start a Romulan and entice them to ally at end game. This not only works thematically, but it also keeps the conflict focused on the Klingon/Federation War.
I can very much appreciate this, and for what it's worth, it's a good idea. It does beg the question though of whether it should be done.
From the Romulan point of view, half of them are going to be allied with the Federation, and the other half of them are going to be allied with the Klingon Empire. These two sides are at war with each other, and D'Tan has created a new colony so that his Romulans can live in peace. Surely if his Romulans are joining the Federation and Klingon factions, they're going to end up fighting each other? Cause that keeps the spirit of New Romulus in high regard, doesn't it?
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Q: (lordhavelock) How excited are you to finally be able to talk publically about STO: Legacy of Romulus? Have you lost sleep over not being able to talk about it up until now? And just how free will it be?
Dstahl: As far as how "Free", it will be very similar to our already generous free-to-play philosophy. There will be ships at every level that can be gained for in game currency as well as Dilithium and C-Store ships. Captains will unlock new costumes in-game as they progress through the story as well as have premium costumes that can be purchased in the c-store.
Can I call bull****? The Romulan faction will be based on a generous free-to-play philosophy, yet to start us all off, you're only giving us ONE species to play as. Yes, that's extremely generous of you. :rolleyes: It's mentioned in the first reply that further races will become part of the Romulan Republic too, and we all know that your 'later releases' come with a price. Federation came with Liberated Borg, Joined Trill, Klingon and Caitian, and the Klingons came with Joined Trill, Liberated Borg and Ferasan.
It seems obvious to me, that whoever comes to join the Romulan Republic in any future update will require actual money (probably 600 zen, as per most late-addon races).
Q: (crichtonsr) How have featured episodes been used with the new content for the Romulans and Klingons?
Dstahl: As has been our plan since we introduced the Featured series, these episodes will remain available to any faction, and thus are available to the new Romulan Republic faction.
In order to improve story flow, we?re restructuring when individual series are offered to Romulans and Klingons so that new and returning captains will experience more of the new missions first. The rewards from these series will remain available to all factions as will the special rewards when we have Rerun Events.
Well this gives people absolutely no incentive to play the Reman FE Run. I suppose they'd get a FREE Reman out of it, but even then, we STILL can't customize the guy.
Q: (stardestroyer001) What kind of adjustments will be made to the structure of PvP, as a third faction is added to the mix?
Dstahl: Since individual Romulan Republic captains will ultimately have to choose sides in the war, PvP will remain two-faction with Romulans alongside their ally. This supports our future goal of using PvP to emphasize the Federation-Klingon War and provides an interesting choice for Romulan captains and existing PvP based Fleets.
This I expected, even though you guys knew that people were pushing for a 3-way PvP between FEDs, KDF & Romulans. You knew what we wanted, yet you didn't do. Great. Wouldn't have been so bad if you at least put this in as an option.
Add to that, yet again we're going to be seeing D'Tans Romulans fighting each other. D'Tan is going to be quite peeved off about this I fear.
Q: (ooiue) Now that the precedence has been set of you guys adding factions, are there plans to put a playable Dominion/Cardassian faction sometime within the next year or two?
Dstahl: Legacy of Romulus definitely opens up the door to adding new factions in the future and ultimately puts STO one step closer to a living Star Trek galaxy.
Except Star Trek Galaxy shouldn't be about choosing a side between the Federation and Klingon.
Q: (gornman47) Will there be a 25th century version of the D?deridex, and how many original Cryptic Romulan ships are we going to get with the faction?
Dstahl: Yes, there are Cryptic 25th century variants of all the base ships, including the D?deridex, and there will be at least two additional Cryptic-original Romulan ships at launch with more planned for the future.
Cannon Romulan Ships (by my count) equals 6 (if you exclude the drone ship from Enterprise). Plus 2 'Cryptic Originals', that leaves a whole bunch of Romulan Officers flying around in Federation or Klingon ships. Yippiee!!!!! :mad:
Q: (robertuso) Will a free character slot be provided for the Romulan Republic faction?
Dstahl: Yes, but we haven?t finalized how this will be granted yet.
This has me worried, especially considering this update was suppose to allow any player (new or old) to start as any faction before going through ranks of the other.
Honestly, I've read better Ask Cryptic Replies. This isn't the way a lot of us had hoped the Romulan Faction would work (I fear you guys knew that already, you aren't stupid). You've essentially merged the Romulans into one of the two existing factions, though you've taken a backdoor entry point to make it look as if the Romulans stand alone.
Wasn't there talk some time ago of bringing an end to the Federation - Klingon war? That's going to TRIBBLE your Romulan Alliance theme right up. You allow us a single race to play with (short of cash), you allow Starfleet and the KDF to give up their (already limited) ships to the Romulans, and you force our Romulan Officers to join a specific allegiance.
...and yes, I know I've only focused on the negative here. I'm sure the actual content and gameplay, plus further additions will be great, I'm just not a fan of the way Cryptic have implemented this.
I am quite relieved that there will be no Romulan base progression right off the bat. And to those that feel cheated by this revelation, it makes sense as the Romulans are a defeated people trying to establish a new home world. How could you possibly believe that if rommy bases started sprouting up all over the tau dewa sector. They are no longer the power house of the quadrant like they were in the past. And be thankful that you are getting a "free" expansion.
Are we playing the same game? The romulans aren't defeated, they had a planet blow up, the rest of the empire is still there. Have you ever been to Tau Dewa or Psi Velorum or Alpha Centauri or Iota Pavonis blocks? Half of that space is the empire. Sela's throne wasnt even on that planet, its on another planet in another system halfway across the empire.
Oh and how did the empire get that big without massive fleets? The empire is massive. Look around. Its not a township, its an empire
Oh lets just reboot the whole empire into this random ball of dirt we've renamed "New Romuls" and make group hugs. Yeah that makes sense
As a Side note; I will not be creating Romulan Engineers soon; Tacticals are just hands down, the overall best way to play the (PvE) game. Sure, Engineers excel on ground, but they suck in space. And since we have to ally with the Fed or KDF at one point, I'llcCreate a Tactical that goes with the Fed, and the mirror version of that Tactical that goes with the KDF.
No self-respecting Klingon would ever willingly help, much less, ally themselves with a Romulan. The only ones (in canon) who ever allied themselves with Romulans, were labeled traitors of the Empire.
Considering the Romulan and Klingon Empires were allies during the 23rd century (TOS era); there's no real reason they couldn't be again.
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Are we playing the same game? The romulans aren't defeated, they had a planet blow up, the rest of the empire is still there. Have you ever been to Tau Dewa or Psi Velorum or Alpha Centauri or Iota Pavonis blocks? Half of that space is the empire.
How did the empire get that big without massive fleets?
Oh lets just reboot the whole empire into this random ball of dirt we've renamed "New Romuls" and make group hugs. Yeah that makes sense
The holdings of what was once the RSE is more akin to Europe in this story line; Everybody's loosely allied, but none of them operate under one central authority. Sure, the body of the RSE still exists, but it doesn't have full governance over every Romulan inhabited world.
They tout Romulans having their own storyline, but really you will just graft on to one of the other factions. There will only be FED-Roms or KDF-Roms, no real Romulans, whether they've got unique missions or not.
Leave it to Cryptic to destroy what the Federation, the Klingons, and even the Dominion could not; one of the most beloved factions of Star Trek lore.
I guess it's my fault for hoping they'd do the right thing instead of half-measure it.
I have to reiterate how disappointed I am that Romulans will be shoe-horned into the Fed/KDF conflict. The Tal'Shiar still exists; the Empire (should) still exist. Yes, New Romulus was a big addition to gameplay. But I still think Romulan players should be able to choose which Romulan faction they are part of - and those factions should be NEUTRAL in the FvK war (or making their own side in the war).
This really feels like a way to re-use all the existing Fed, KDF, and New Romulus missions. I get that New Romulus is going to play a big role in the Romulan pseudo-faction, but that doesn't mean doing the exact same thing Feds and KDF are doing there. I'm perfectly willing to wait on different missions and content for all three factions, rather than having groups of people that should be at war with each other running around cooperating on gathering plant samples.
Edit: This also sets a terrible precedent for future factions. Will the Dominion, despite having the Gamma Quadrant to play with, and their own agenda, be forced to pick sides in the conflict as well? What they've done to the Romulans makes sense for the Cardassians / Alpha Jem'Hadar - regular Cardassians join Fed, True Way join KDF; sensible Jem'Hadar / Vorta join Fed, rogue join KDF. But the Romulans (like the Dominion) have their own agenda, their own fleets, their own (laregly ignored) territory.
Also going to add: I hope there's species specific missions for the Remans (like there should be for Gorn, Orions, etc.). They seem to have their own thing going on as well...
Giving us all the content of the new faction, even if it is only one race and six ships as you suggest, for free is an extremely generous free-to-play philosophy. Turbine charges significant money for this kind of new content, and then tiers it out so to get the real 'goodies' you want for your character you have to spend really healthy amounts. Even games like DCUO charge money for packs like this. And Remans are unlockable without spending a dime.
Heck, so far at least, Cryptic is being a lot more generous with this expansion than they are with Neverwinter Founders Packs.
I have only one gripe with the approach being taken here.
The Romulan Republic has "individual Captains" picking sides with KDF and Feds.
The problem is, essentially this means they are more like a loose mercenary company than an actual rising government.
They can end up fighting their own people. See the problem here from a story perspective?
And no, i'm sorry, this doesn't make it more "interesting" it makes it "too complicated" to feel right from a story telling perspective IMO.
Why are we locking off Remans to the reputation system and the alien-gen to subbers and lifetimers? I'm a lifetimer, but I just don't understand what' achieved by these two decisions? They're ... really not good or exciting in my opinion, in the slightest. It kills a lot of excitement for the update.
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They better release more information regarding this "alliance" we get to choose. If this only stretches so far that just PvP, Starbases and Homeworlds are concerned it's somewhat ok. Romulans have a tendency of backstabbing each other, so maybe we can see their PvP mode this way.
However, Cryptic should better reconsider their stance on letting Romulans have crossfaction ships. Romulans/Remans should stick to their own faction's ships, I really don't want to see them roaming around in Defiants, Kumaris and Kar'Fi carriers.
What I read was that Dstahl said you could play as a Reman and a Romulan not as simply a Romulan and that the only thing limited was that Alien-Gen thing he was claiming would cost.
Cool. I like the choice you made regarding Romulans and starbases. I like the idea of an independent faction with the ability to leech from existing fleets.
I have only one gripe with the approach being taken here.
The Romulan Republic has "individual Captains" picking sides with KDF and Feds.
The problem is, essentially this means they are more like a loose mercenary company than an actual rising government.
They can end up fighting their own people. See the problem here from a story perspective?
And no, i'm sorry, this doesn't make it more "interesting" it makes it "too complicated" to feel right from a story telling perspective IMO.
I have to reiterate how disappointed I am that Romulans will be shoe-horned into the Fed/KDF conflict. The Tal'Shiar still exists; the Empire (should) still exist. Yes, New Romulus was a big addition to gameplay. But I still think Romulan players should be able to choose which Romulan faction they are part of - and those factions should be NEUTRAL in the FvK war (or making their own side in the war).
In theory, I agree. In theory, I would love the idea of three faction PVP battlegrounds.
But lets talk reality here. If Cryptic had gone that way, and made a third, fully independent faction in terms of PVP, Starbases, the works, what would we have ended up with? Another underpopulated faction, likely (after the initial rush of excitement for the new when it first comes out) even more underpopulated than my beloved KDF, with even longer queue times, and even more complaining on the forums.
I think based on the realistic situation of the game (that the majority of players have always, and likely will always, have Federation mains), that this is the best of all possible worlds. They get their own missions, ships, customization, and progression but they help bolster the queues instead of draining them further.
The only way the split alliance works for me story wise, is if the war between the KDF and Feds "officially" ends.
Otherwise it comes across as really stupid, because the Romulans of this Republic are trying to build a new lasting government, seems taking two sides of a warring groups is kinda suicidal to their ambitions, y'know?
I should also add that I was planning on making a significant Zen purchase for this expansion. Now that I know the Romulans will not be able to choose between Tal'Shiar, Empire, or New Romulus, and will additionally be shoe-horned into Fed or KDF, I think I will not.
Fleets are either FED or KDF. Romulans can create a FED or KDF Fleet, but then only allow Romulans in if they want. This was done for the reasons stated in the Ask Cryptic.
I do not like the idea that Romulans are forced to Join either a Federation or Klingon fleet to gain access to Fleet Ships and Equipment. Cos if am understanding correctly there are going to be Romulan fleets that own either a Fed or KDF starbase
And for large established fleets like {UFP} who have 2 Federation fleets(1 for mains, 1 for alts) and a KDF fleet the House of Kular, all of which have 400+ characters and will have little space for Romulans.
Now we were happy to make a new Romulan Fleet with it's own Division in {UFP} and were happy to build up a brand new Romulan Starbase, why not just give the Romulans a starbase and their own fleet?, it make perfect story sense that the Romulan Republic would be making brand new starbases near New Romulus.
Considering the Romulan and Klingon Empires were allies during the 23rd century (TOS era); there's no real reason they couldn't be again.
As I said, "in canon". It was never confirmed IN CANON, that the Romulans ever allied themselves with the Klingons, to obtain their D-7s. For all we know, the Romulans STOLE a D-7 from the Klingons. I watched that very episode just a few days ago. No mention at all about a possible alliance.
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Ok...so for those fleets that are nearing Tier 5, they already have 400-500 members. Let's say only half of them want to make a Romulan or Reman character, will the fleet cap of 500 be raised to deal with this? Otherwise they fleets would have have to not allow many new members, kick people out, or have the players go with a different group than those they've been playing with.
If the cap was 500 Feds and 500 Fed-aligned Romulans, that would work.
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The KDF hated the Feds as much as they ever hated the Romulans. That changed. And changed again. And changed again.
The KDF respect honorable warriors. The Republic broke away from the Empire, they are NOT the same body of government that they have loathed.
They aren't "racists" as much as they are intolerant of the Romulans they "dealt with".
The KDF had an alliance with the Romulans through the Kirk era hence the Strormbird D-7 warships seen in "The Enterprise Incident", and it wasn't just house Duras limited alliance, it was a "whole" alliance at that time.
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They tout Romulans having their own storyline, but really you will just graft on to one of the other factions. There will only be FED-Roms or KDF-Roms, no real Romulans, whether they've got unique missions or not.
Leave it to Cryptic to destroy what the Federation, the Klingons, and even the Dominion could not; one of the most beloved factions of Star Trek lore.
I guess it's my fault for hoping they'd do the right thing instead of half-measure it.
what it should say is
Together, you will rise up against an oppressive regime and demand freedom..... failing that you will fight your own people while fighting for some else
qfe 1 of the best posts I've ever seen lol
I'm only covering the questions (and answers) that I find to be in contradiction of others, or that I wish to state an opinion on. Those I've not quoted are either because they're fine with me, or they're unrelated to the May Update.
Lets analyze:
So, basically, unless we've paid (or are paying) to play this game, we're limited to Romulans at the start. No Reman, and none of these Hybrids.
I at least expected Remans playable at the start.
#1 I think you missed out on a very important chance to do something new here.
Federation & Klingons ~ they're at war. They've got Starbases in ETA Erandi. The Romulans are not at war with anyone, but could have benefited from a similar system. It was mentioned on another thread somewhere that their 'starbase' should be on a planet instead, thus you'd have a similar setup (for the rewards and like) but it would be more a neutral location. It would have served a perfect purpose too.
#2 You're giving Romulans access to Federation and Klingon ships? I can see most of the level 1 - 50 Romulan ships will actually be Federation or Klingon. What chances are there that the Romulans will only have, what, 6 ships of their own? :rolleyes:
#3 I can very much appreciate this, and for what it's worth, it's a good idea. It does beg the question though of whether it should be done.
From the Romulan point of view, half of them are going to be allied with the Federation, and the other half of them are going to be allied with the Klingon Empire. These two sides are at war with each other, and D'Tan has created a new colony so that his Romulans can live in peace. Surely if his Romulans are joining the Federation and Klingon factions, they're going to end up fighting each other? Cause that keeps the spirit of New Romulus in high regard, doesn't it?
*Facepalm
Can I call bull****? The Romulan faction will be based on a generous free-to-play philosophy, yet to start us all off, you're only giving us ONE species to play as. Yes, that's extremely generous of you. :rolleyes: It's mentioned in the first reply that further races will become part of the Romulan Republic too, and we all know that your 'later releases' come with a price. Federation came with Liberated Borg, Joined Trill, Klingon and Caitian, and the Klingons came with Joined Trill, Liberated Borg and Ferasan.
It seems obvious to me, that whoever comes to join the Romulan Republic in any future update will require actual money (probably 600 zen, as per most late-addon races).
Well this gives people absolutely no incentive to play the Reman FE Run. I suppose they'd get a FREE Reman out of it, but even then, we STILL can't customize the guy.
This I expected, even though you guys knew that people were pushing for a 3-way PvP between FEDs, KDF & Romulans. You knew what we wanted, yet you didn't do. Great. Wouldn't have been so bad if you at least put this in as an option.
Add to that, yet again we're going to be seeing D'Tans Romulans fighting each other. D'Tan is going to be quite peeved off about this I fear.
Except Star Trek Galaxy shouldn't be about choosing a side between the Federation and Klingon.
Cannon Romulan Ships (by my count) equals 6 (if you exclude the drone ship from Enterprise). Plus 2 'Cryptic Originals', that leaves a whole bunch of Romulan Officers flying around in Federation or Klingon ships. Yippiee!!!!! :mad:
This has me worried, especially considering this update was suppose to allow any player (new or old) to start as any faction before going through ranks of the other.
Honestly, I've read better Ask Cryptic Replies. This isn't the way a lot of us had hoped the Romulan Faction would work (I fear you guys knew that already, you aren't stupid). You've essentially merged the Romulans into one of the two existing factions, though you've taken a backdoor entry point to make it look as if the Romulans stand alone.
Wasn't there talk some time ago of bringing an end to the Federation - Klingon war? That's going to TRIBBLE your Romulan Alliance theme right up. You allow us a single race to play with (short of cash), you allow Starfleet and the KDF to give up their (already limited) ships to the Romulans, and you force our Romulan Officers to join a specific allegiance.
...and yes, I know I've only focused on the negative here. I'm sure the actual content and gameplay, plus further additions will be great, I'm just not a fan of the way Cryptic have implemented this.
Are we playing the same game? The romulans aren't defeated, they had a planet blow up, the rest of the empire is still there. Have you ever been to Tau Dewa or Psi Velorum or Alpha Centauri or Iota Pavonis blocks? Half of that space is the empire. Sela's throne wasnt even on that planet, its on another planet in another system halfway across the empire.
Oh and how did the empire get that big without massive fleets? The empire is massive. Look around. Its not a township, its an empire
Oh lets just reboot the whole empire into this random ball of dirt we've renamed "New Romuls" and make group hugs. Yeah that makes sense
Considering the Romulan and Klingon Empires were allies during the 23rd century (TOS era); there's no real reason they couldn't be again.
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Pretty much sums up my feelings :mad:
This really feels like a way to re-use all the existing Fed, KDF, and New Romulus missions. I get that New Romulus is going to play a big role in the Romulan pseudo-faction, but that doesn't mean doing the exact same thing Feds and KDF are doing there. I'm perfectly willing to wait on different missions and content for all three factions, rather than having groups of people that should be at war with each other running around cooperating on gathering plant samples.
Edit: This also sets a terrible precedent for future factions. Will the Dominion, despite having the Gamma Quadrant to play with, and their own agenda, be forced to pick sides in the conflict as well? What they've done to the Romulans makes sense for the Cardassians / Alpha Jem'Hadar - regular Cardassians join Fed, True Way join KDF; sensible Jem'Hadar / Vorta join Fed, rogue join KDF. But the Romulans (like the Dominion) have their own agenda, their own fleets, their own (laregly ignored) territory.
Also going to add: I hope there's species specific missions for the Remans (like there should be for Gorn, Orions, etc.). They seem to have their own thing going on as well...
Heck, so far at least, Cryptic is being a lot more generous with this expansion than they are with Neverwinter Founders Packs.
The Romulan Republic has "individual Captains" picking sides with KDF and Feds.
The problem is, essentially this means they are more like a loose mercenary company than an actual rising government.
They can end up fighting their own people. See the problem here from a story perspective?
And no, i'm sorry, this doesn't make it more "interesting" it makes it "too complicated" to feel right from a story telling perspective IMO.
Still, I am looking forward to it in general.
Check out my Foundry missions
Fed: "To Helna and Back", "Rema Donna", "Animations with Helna", "Mudd's Weapons", "Waiting for Wednesday", "Monolith"
KDF: "Time the Enemy", "Time the Ally", "Time the Traitor"
However, Cryptic should better reconsider their stance on letting Romulans have crossfaction ships. Romulans/Remans should stick to their own faction's ships, I really don't want to see them roaming around in Defiants, Kumaris and Kar'Fi carriers.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
Romulan Firefly...I see no problems with that.
In theory, I agree. In theory, I would love the idea of three faction PVP battlegrounds.
But lets talk reality here. If Cryptic had gone that way, and made a third, fully independent faction in terms of PVP, Starbases, the works, what would we have ended up with? Another underpopulated faction, likely (after the initial rush of excitement for the new when it first comes out) even more underpopulated than my beloved KDF, with even longer queue times, and even more complaining on the forums.
I think based on the realistic situation of the game (that the majority of players have always, and likely will always, have Federation mains), that this is the best of all possible worlds. They get their own missions, ships, customization, and progression but they help bolster the queues instead of draining them further.
Otherwise it comes across as really stupid, because the Romulans of this Republic are trying to build a new lasting government, seems taking two sides of a warring groups is kinda suicidal to their ambitions, y'know?
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Fed Armada: Section 31 (level 730, 2700+ members)
KDF Armada: Klingon Intelligence (level 699, 2100+ members)
I do not like the idea that Romulans are forced to Join either a Federation or Klingon fleet to gain access to Fleet Ships and Equipment. Cos if am understanding correctly there are going to be Romulan fleets that own either a Fed or KDF starbase
And for large established fleets like {UFP} who have 2 Federation fleets(1 for mains, 1 for alts) and a KDF fleet the House of Kular, all of which have 400+ characters and will have little space for Romulans.
Now we were happy to make a new Romulan Fleet with it's own Division in {UFP} and were happy to build up a brand new Romulan Starbase, why not just give the Romulans a starbase and their own fleet?, it make perfect story sense that the Romulan Republic would be making brand new starbases near New Romulus.
As I said, "in canon". It was never confirmed IN CANON, that the Romulans ever allied themselves with the Klingons, to obtain their D-7s. For all we know, the Romulans STOLE a D-7 from the Klingons. I watched that very episode just a few days ago. No mention at all about a possible alliance.