But I'm not blind. I see what the company has done with multiple factions. They couldn't do it in CoH. They couldn't do it in Champions. And they did a terrible job of it in STO.
In other words... you think the company sucks.
Sorry, but that sort of attitude means that you'll never be happy no matter what they do.
Cryptic MUST advance the game, it's part of running an MMO. If you stagnate, you die.
They're adding something new in May. What? We don't know for sure, but it might be a Romulan faction. I'm hoping it is just for the sake of having soemthing new to play as.
And yes, I do have a "Romulan" character, he's named Sekkoth and he flies an Excelsior.
I mean they pulled it off in the sense they MADE a KDF faction. And that they could do the same with a Romulan faction.
Hmm.
Richard Garriott pulled off making an MMo Shooter called Tabula Rasa.
It wasn't what the people wanted...
Just saying because they made a "weak" faction (sorry, love KDF btw), that means they are capable of making another "weak" faction?
Yea, guess your right.
As I said before, this game is dumbing down people's expectations.
Mediocre is the new king.
Guess that's what happens when people are so desperate for anything Trek.
What I don't understand is why are all the Rommies having a go at the KDF?
I haven't heard many KDFers saying their shouldn't be a Rommie faction, all they are saying, is that Dan said no new factions until KDF is finished. This seems to be conveniently missed off all the posts from the Rommies.
Now if we were to take Dan at his word (:eek:), that would mean some serious work on the KDF, as it needs more than just a start from level 1, however, if we also take Dan at his word (:eek:) the KDF are not worth it???
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
Sorry, but that sort of attitude means that you'll never be happy no matter what they do.
Cryptic MUST advance the game, it's part of running an MMO. If you stagnate, you die.
They're adding something new in May. What? We don't know for sure, but it might be a Romulan faction. I'm hoping it is just for the sake of having soemthing new to play as.
And yes, I do have a "Romulan" character, he's named Sekkoth and he flies an Excelsior.
I don't think Chum thinks the company sucks, but I do;) He plays, I don't.
That said, yes, you are right, it does need to advance the game and 3 full factions "could" do that. The problem is we have seen how they have done it before and nothing in the last 3 years has really changed Cryptic's philosophy on gaming except to add grind and lockboxes. If you want story, go to the Foundry is what they people.
If they cannot keep up with new "content" for it's main faction, how is it now suppose to do 3?
I do hope they add a new faction. More people whining and moaning on these forums is always interesting:) Kept me interested for nearly 3 years;)
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
Richard Garriott pulled off making an MMo Shooter called Tabula Rasa.
It wasn't what the people wanted...
No, Richard Garriot is a lunatic who specialises in messing up then blaming everyone except himself for his own colossal screwups, that's why Tabula Rasa failed.
I haven't heard many KDFers saying their shouldn't be a Rommie faction, all they are saying, is that Dan said no new factions until KDF is finished. This seems to be conveniently missed off all the posts from the Rommies.
And the people who quote it incessantly forget that it's Stahl's definition of complete that counts, not theirs.
And from my point fo view, KDF is currently lacking very little in that regard.
"IF" you do get the Rom faction you're so desperate for, I guarantee you that within a year, you will be on the other side, "whining" and "complaining" just like the KDF, when you get very little updates and your just another "monster" play faction.
Right now all the Rommies fans are excited at the prospect of getting their faction, however, I am sure that will wear off soon, especially when Cryptic revert to type and go back to Lockboxes and chuck you a bone every so often.
Has the below changed?
1. Cryptic keep on telling us, this game is a Fed game.
2. Fans keeping on telling us this is a Fed game.
3. People tell us all the time, "Star Trek movies and the TV programs, were about the Feds".
4. Cryptic don't do multi factions well.
I laugh when I read Rommie fans like you berating KDF fans calling them whiners.
Payback is a ....
Hey, whine all you want. Too be honest, I could care less if the Rom faction has only one ship, so long as that ship is a Scimitar. Hehe, battle cloaking dreadnaught FTW. Seriously, start whining now, your gonna need the head start. Squeal like a freaking piggy, it won't do you any good. Don't like it? Quite, save yourselves the money, and save us the aspirin.
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Hey, whine all you want. Too be honest, I could care less if the Rom faction has only one ship, so long as that ship is a Scimitar. Hehe, battle cloaking dreadnaught FTW. Seriously, start whining now, your gonna need the head start. Squeal like a freaking piggy, it won't do you any good. Don't like it? Quite, save yourselves the money, and save us the aspirin.
As long as it comes with an authentic Star Trek Nemesis Thalaron projector that takes 10 minutes to charge.
Just started a character the other day.. well sorry to be abit forward with this reply but you havent been on the front lines since launch with the faction or experienced every low point the kdf has had to indure... so sorry to say your view is abit off on the kdf faction.
I will also state it has had some improvements since launch, new ships, new homeworld update, not to mention starbase also. But it still lacks.
Any other MMO games ive been part of has always been fair with content releases or new items been given out that if one faction would get something say.. new race to play, new mount or something, the other faction would get the same treatment. STO's been the one game so far that I see one faction get all the goodies for the most part. Thats my view for what ever its worth :P
THIS IS what it will be NOWHERE have they even hinted at a romulan faction because you all see what you want to see this thing has taken a life of tis own with this rom faction TRIBBLE mark my words you all will be very very pissed when you find out its a bunch of stories and not a new faction
As long as it comes with an authentic Star Trek Nemesis Thalaron projector that takes 10 minutes to charge.
Everything that's wrong with STO in a nutshell and why PWE/Cryptic love people like the above.
Straight from the mouth of one of the leaders of the CDF - "I tell you what, Haven't spent any money either - I'm a lousy freeloader" - Jonsills 17/12/2014
THIS IS what it will be NOWHERE have they even hinted at a romulan faction because you all see what you want to see this thing has taken a life of tis own with this rom faction TRIBBLE mark my words you all will be very very pissed when you find out its a bunch of stories and not a new faction
Are you kidding? They've hinted all over the place about the faction.
Are you kidding? They've hinted all over the place about the faction.
They've hinted things that could be taken any of several ways, one of which is a new faction. They've also outright stated that a Romulan faction isn't happening until the Klingons have a full 1-50 leveling experience. You think *BOTH* of those things are coming this week, without being on Tribble for a while?
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They've hinted things that could be taken any of several ways, one of which is a new faction. They've also outright stated that a Romulan faction isn't happening until the Klingons have a full 1-50 leveling experience. You think *BOTH* of those things are coming this week, without being on Tribble for a while?
The Klinks *do* have a full levelling experience. That it's not exactly the bloody same as the Feds isn't really that much of a problem.
Richard Garriott pulled off making an MMo Shooter called Tabula Rasa.
It wasn't what the people wanted...
Just saying because they made a "weak" faction (sorry, love KDF btw), that means they are capable of making another "weak" faction?
Yea, guess your right.
As I said before, this game is dumbing down people's expectations.
Mediocre is the new king.
Guess that's what happens when people are so desperate for anything Trek.
What I don't understand is why are all the Rommies having a go at the KDF?
I haven't heard many KDFers saying their shouldn't be a Rommie faction, all they are saying, is that Dan said no new factions until KDF is finished. This seems to be conveniently missed off all the posts from the Rommies.
Now if we were to take Dan at his word (:eek:), that would mean some serious work on the KDF, as it needs more than just a start from level 1, however, if we also take Dan at his word (:eek:) the KDF are not worth it???
The part where you said they are capable of making another "weak" faction is kinda what i meant in a harsh way.
The klingons are special, but i don't find them as cool as Romulans(I still like klingons though). Yes, i agree KDF needs more work and things were promised about it, but not all promises are kept. It may turn out there is no Romulan faction, and thats ok. If there is and its like the KDF faction, thats alright.
Oh and i just thought of this. If they are making a Romulan faction, they may treat it like the KDF is treated now, like said in other post, and then they may work on Klingon faction while Romulan faction is being treated like KDF is now.
Wow. I've never seen so much Garriott bashing. I know some folks at Cryptic reading this think highly of him and one or two might be friends with him. I'd say he might be reading this but he's probably in space, fingers crossed that his Kickstarter gets the last $50,000 it will need and wishing he'd called it "Veronica Mars."
Heck, I've ranted about David Jaffe before (and I agree with him on some things but in weird ways; a lot of what comes off as rants here would make sense if you let me in a room with coffee and a white board or if there was enough money to justify doing proper design docs) and then I found out, ta-da, Cryptic has some of his proteges.
Now, I'm sure that will in no way stop the Garriott hate but I'm just sayin', there are folks at Cryptic who, if you compared them negatively to Garriott, would take it as a compliment.
Frankly, I think anyone who has a level 50 should be able to start new toons at level 45. The only downside there is for Cryptic in marketing lower tier ships.
They've hinted things that could be taken any of several ways, one of which is a new faction. They've also outright stated that a Romulan faction isn't happening until the Klingons have a full 1-50 leveling experience. You think *BOTH* of those things are coming this week, without being on Tribble for a while?
Nothing is coming this week except perhaps a teaser trailer. The update still isn't until May.
Cardassians have a larger role in Star Trek universe than Romulans ever had. If anyone need their own faction it is them.
I guess you didn't follow the federation story line in this game. The Cardassians now hold only a defensive army and do not have a big army to mount offensives. You dismantled the rest of the old Cardassian empire during your play through for Cardassian campaign.
I guess you didn't follow the federation story line in this game. The Cardassians now hold only a defensive army and do not have a big army to mount offensives. You dismantled the rest of the old Cardassian empire during your play through for Cardassian campaign.
The True Way know the true path. And at least Cardassia still exists. :P
Cardassians have a larger role in Star Trek universe than Romulans ever had. If anyone need their own faction it is them.
You've not been watching long, have you?
Are the Cardassians one of the three major galactic powers in Trek, since the Original Series? No.
Have they had a history with the Federation, specifically Vulcan (back to the time of Surak) and Earth (the Earth-Romulan war) as long as the Romulans? Not even close.
Before they became the Dominion's pets, were they even on the Federation's radar? Not really. So much so that they let them have their way with Bajor and refused to directly interfere in their occupation.... THIS is why the Maquis were formed in the first place!
Were they relevant in any show other than DS9? No.
You can like them better, and that's fine. I'd like to see a Cardassian faction too, and Dstahl has hinted that they're next in line. But your argument lacks substance.
So again, I have to ask, how will you react when DStahl tells you that you're only 12% of his customer base, so you're not cost efficient enough to deal with your problems? (And make no mistake, there will be problems, there always are). How will you react when some poster tells you that the show wasn't about Romulans, so your problem doesn't matter?
how i will react?
it depends on the problem. i am not a KDF whiner now, albeit playing them as my mains.
Yes, i'm a little disturbed about the decloaking bug and pissed off by the non-existence of the Romulan Embassy Costume for the KDF - they shouldn't let us grind for it if it does not exist.
but my main issue with having a Romulan faction is to play as Romulan.
I do not believe such relatively small issues as missing costume or not a full 1-50 content will turn me off, as i prefer to play the foundry missions and PVP.
Frankly, as the equipment, tech and layouts are shared between all 3 factions, i cannot imagine a problem which would make Romulan or KDF faction unplayable.
I do not expect Cryptic to flash out the KDF or Rommies as much as they pay attention to the FED's.
The second faction has been mismanaged, poorly implemented and left hanging for three years. You think the Romulans will get better treatment?
You completely misunderstand. I think a Dominion faction, a Ferengi Alliance, even some whacky Liberated Borg Faction would ALL be welcome additions to the game.
I just don't think Cryptic can pull it off. They didn't with the KDF.
Really, i do not feel the way you do. As a KDF toon, i get to play everything in the endgame as the FED's. We have a Starbase, daily missions, fleet actions.
The only thing missins are the first 20 lvls, but i do not think the Fed 1-20 experience is so exciting to be worried about it.
I also honestly believe RSE will have more players than the KDF.
Last thing - adding more factions and making the PVE content faction unspecific is imho the way to go. We need a big universe, and Romulans could be a start-up with Cardies, Ferengi, Dominion, whatever following.
Perhaps Cryptic will not earn the most cash in selling FED ships anymore. Perhaps it will be toon slots, bank slots, equipment (Dill and Zen sales) and Fleet holdings sinks.
how i will react?
it depends on the problem. i am not a KDF whiner now, albeit playing them as my mains.
Yes, i'm a little disturbed about the decloaking bug and pissed off by the non-existence of the Romulan Embassy Costume for the KDF - they shouldn't let us grind for it if it does not exist.
but my main issue with having a Romulan faction is to play as Romulan.
I do not believe such relatively small issues as missing costume or not a full 1-50 content will turn me off, as i prefer to play the foundry missions and PVP.
Frankly, as the equipment, tech and layouts are shared between all 3 factions, i cannot imagine a problem which would make Romulan or KDF faction unplayable.
I do not expect Cryptic to flash out the KDF or Rommies as much as they pay attention to the FED's.
Really, i do not feel the way you do. As a KDF toon, i get to play everything in the endgame as the FED's. We have a Starbase, daily missions, fleet actions.
The only thing missins are the first 20 lvls, but i do not think the Fed 1-20 experience is so exciting to be worried about it.
I also honestly believe RSE will have more players than the KDF.
Last thing - adding more factions and making the PVE content faction unspecific is imho the way to go. We need a big universe, and Romulans could be a start-up with Cardies, Ferengi, Dominion, whatever following.
Perhaps Cryptic will not earn the most cash in selling FED ships anymore. Perhaps it will be toon slots, bank slots, equipment (Dill and Zen sales) and Fleet holdings sinks.
The decloaking thing is no longer considered a "bug" by Cryptic.
They've said on numerous times they wouldn't change anything about it since it was always their intention that on specific occasions during a mission you'd lose stealth for the mission to work.
That the loss of stealth is intended certainly explains why it only affects the cloak and not MES.
[yes, that's sarcasm]
With regards to several bugs: several of these have been around for a year or even more.
There's a thread called "Unable to edit appearance on KDF marauding reward boff." that is over a year old and still active.
I wonder if you'd want to be called a "Romulan whiner" over this after you've waited for the Romluan D7 (or Warbird or any other RSE ship) to get fixed for over 2 years.
It's also impossible to edit the fleet versions of several KDF ships when you don't own the C-Sotre version. Again no support on that since the introduction of the Fleet system aside from "we know about it".
Dailies: The Klingon daily mission on the Starbase is still broken to the point it can't be finished roughly 50% of the time.
Meaning you have to drop it and try again the next day.
This bug was already reported on Tribble.
No support on that either.
Some aspects of the Pi Canis raids are also still bugged like the Federation ships attacking thier own sats or the strange lag we have in the Eriksson System.
No support on that either.
Another "funny" bit is that the grenade launcher on the Honor Guard rifle shared a cooldown with other grenade abilities and it was condiered "working as intended"...until the exact same thing was complained about by the Fed players with regards to the Adapted MACO set.
Then it was "fixed".
This is what Superchum (snoggymack22) means by "problems".
It's nothing anyone wants to see happen to the Romulans.:(
Think about it and ask yourself "is existing really enough"?
I see people are asking for the Spoon head faction.. might I remind you all drugs are bad.. they make you do silly things.. like say "I would rather see a Cardassian faction"
We all know they should make a super dooper Foundry Aliens Alliance faction :P ... or failing that... Undine.. we need moar Undine!!!!
Cardassians have a larger role in Star Trek universe than Romulans ever had. If anyone need their own faction it is them.
Seriously? The Cardassians were irrelevant until Deep Space Nine. Even at their peak they were little more than Dominion brown-nosers. The Romulans span the series from TOS through the most recent film. The Romulans have been the antagonists in the last two movies. How many feature films have the Carddies been pivotal in, or even mentioned?
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Sorry, but that sort of attitude means that you'll never be happy no matter what they do.
Cryptic MUST advance the game, it's part of running an MMO. If you stagnate, you die.
They're adding something new in May. What? We don't know for sure, but it might be a Romulan faction. I'm hoping it is just for the sake of having soemthing new to play as.
And yes, I do have a "Romulan" character, he's named Sekkoth and he flies an Excelsior.
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Hmm.
Richard Garriott pulled off making an MMo Shooter called Tabula Rasa.
It wasn't what the people wanted...
Just saying because they made a "weak" faction (sorry, love KDF btw), that means they are capable of making another "weak" faction?
Yea, guess your right.
As I said before, this game is dumbing down people's expectations.
Mediocre is the new king.
Guess that's what happens when people are so desperate for anything Trek.
What I don't understand is why are all the Rommies having a go at the KDF?
I haven't heard many KDFers saying their shouldn't be a Rommie faction, all they are saying, is that Dan said no new factions until KDF is finished. This seems to be conveniently missed off all the posts from the Rommies.
Now if we were to take Dan at his word (:eek:), that would mean some serious work on the KDF, as it needs more than just a start from level 1, however, if we also take Dan at his word (:eek:) the KDF are not worth it???
I don't think Chum thinks the company sucks, but I do;) He plays, I don't.
That said, yes, you are right, it does need to advance the game and 3 full factions "could" do that. The problem is we have seen how they have done it before and nothing in the last 3 years has really changed Cryptic's philosophy on gaming except to add grind and lockboxes. If you want story, go to the Foundry is what they people.
If they cannot keep up with new "content" for it's main faction, how is it now suppose to do 3?
I do hope they add a new faction. More people whining and moaning on these forums is always interesting:) Kept me interested for nearly 3 years;)
No, Richard Garriot is a lunatic who specialises in messing up then blaming everyone except himself for his own colossal screwups, that's why Tabula Rasa failed.
And from my point fo view, KDF is currently lacking very little in that regard.
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Hey, whine all you want. Too be honest, I could care less if the Rom faction has only one ship, so long as that ship is a Scimitar. Hehe, battle cloaking dreadnaught FTW. Seriously, start whining now, your gonna need the head start. Squeal like a freaking piggy, it won't do you any good. Don't like it? Quite, save yourselves the money, and save us the aspirin.
I AM THE SWORD OF THE RIGHTOUS!
As long as it comes with an authentic Star Trek Nemesis Thalaron projector that takes 10 minutes to charge.
THIS IS what it will be NOWHERE have they even hinted at a romulan faction because you all see what you want to see this thing has taken a life of tis own with this rom faction TRIBBLE mark my words you all will be very very pissed when you find out its a bunch of stories and not a new faction
Everything that's wrong with STO in a nutshell and why PWE/Cryptic love people like the above.
Are you kidding? They've hinted all over the place about the faction.
They've hinted things that could be taken any of several ways, one of which is a new faction. They've also outright stated that a Romulan faction isn't happening until the Klingons have a full 1-50 leveling experience. You think *BOTH* of those things are coming this week, without being on Tribble for a while?
The Klinks *do* have a full levelling experience. That it's not exactly the bloody same as the Feds isn't really that much of a problem.
The part where you said they are capable of making another "weak" faction is kinda what i meant in a harsh way.
The klingons are special, but i don't find them as cool as Romulans(I still like klingons though). Yes, i agree KDF needs more work and things were promised about it, but not all promises are kept. It may turn out there is no Romulan faction, and thats ok. If there is and its like the KDF faction, thats alright.
Oh and i just thought of this. If they are making a Romulan faction, they may treat it like the KDF is treated now, like said in other post, and then they may work on Klingon faction while Romulan faction is being treated like KDF is now.
Heck, I've ranted about David Jaffe before (and I agree with him on some things but in weird ways; a lot of what comes off as rants here would make sense if you let me in a room with coffee and a white board or if there was enough money to justify doing proper design docs) and then I found out, ta-da, Cryptic has some of his proteges.
Now, I'm sure that will in no way stop the Garriott hate but I'm just sayin', there are folks at Cryptic who, if you compared them negatively to Garriott, would take it as a compliment.
Really? Please go create a new Level 1 Klink and send us a screenshot.
LOL
you really do not know how an insult looks like
Nothing is coming this week except perhaps a teaser trailer. The update still isn't until May.
I guess you didn't follow the federation story line in this game. The Cardassians now hold only a defensive army and do not have a big army to mount offensives. You dismantled the rest of the old Cardassian empire during your play through for Cardassian campaign.
You've not been watching long, have you?
Are the Cardassians one of the three major galactic powers in Trek, since the Original Series? No.
Have they had a history with the Federation, specifically Vulcan (back to the time of Surak) and Earth (the Earth-Romulan war) as long as the Romulans? Not even close.
Before they became the Dominion's pets, were they even on the Federation's radar? Not really. So much so that they let them have their way with Bajor and refused to directly interfere in their occupation.... THIS is why the Maquis were formed in the first place!
Were they relevant in any show other than DS9? No.
You can like them better, and that's fine. I'd like to see a Cardassian faction too, and Dstahl has hinted that they're next in line. But your argument lacks substance.
I shudder to think of how bad it would get when people have even less experience on playing the captain/ship than they do now.
I bought them mostly for the consoles anyway but you're probably right about that.
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
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how i will react?
it depends on the problem. i am not a KDF whiner now, albeit playing them as my mains.
Yes, i'm a little disturbed about the decloaking bug and pissed off by the non-existence of the Romulan Embassy Costume for the KDF - they shouldn't let us grind for it if it does not exist.
but my main issue with having a Romulan faction is to play as Romulan.
I do not believe such relatively small issues as missing costume or not a full 1-50 content will turn me off, as i prefer to play the foundry missions and PVP.
Frankly, as the equipment, tech and layouts are shared between all 3 factions, i cannot imagine a problem which would make Romulan or KDF faction unplayable.
I do not expect Cryptic to flash out the KDF or Rommies as much as they pay attention to the FED's.
Really, i do not feel the way you do. As a KDF toon, i get to play everything in the endgame as the FED's. We have a Starbase, daily missions, fleet actions.
The only thing missins are the first 20 lvls, but i do not think the Fed 1-20 experience is so exciting to be worried about it.
I also honestly believe RSE will have more players than the KDF.
Last thing - adding more factions and making the PVE content faction unspecific is imho the way to go. We need a big universe, and Romulans could be a start-up with Cardies, Ferengi, Dominion, whatever following.
Perhaps Cryptic will not earn the most cash in selling FED ships anymore. Perhaps it will be toon slots, bank slots, equipment (Dill and Zen sales) and Fleet holdings sinks.
The decloaking thing is no longer considered a "bug" by Cryptic.
They've said on numerous times they wouldn't change anything about it since it was always their intention that on specific occasions during a mission you'd lose stealth for the mission to work.
That the loss of stealth is intended certainly explains why it only affects the cloak and not MES.
[yes, that's sarcasm]
With regards to several bugs: several of these have been around for a year or even more.
There's a thread called "Unable to edit appearance on KDF marauding reward boff." that is over a year old and still active.
The high and low-res models of the K't'inga (affects all variants, all version, all levels) have been reversed for over 2 years now.
Meaning it no longer looks like this:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7637/screenshot2010101713535.jpg
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/8717/screenshot2010101713534.jpg
Instead the high-res model is shown it a distance that you have to squint to see it.
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7180/screenshot2013021419314.jpg
Get any close than that and it looks like this:
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7746/screenshot2013021419315.jpg
I wonder if you'd want to be called a "Romulan whiner" over this after you've waited for the Romluan D7 (or Warbird or any other RSE ship) to get fixed for over 2 years.
It's also impossible to edit the fleet versions of several KDF ships when you don't own the C-Sotre version. Again no support on that since the introduction of the Fleet system aside from "we know about it".
Dailies: The Klingon daily mission on the Starbase is still broken to the point it can't be finished roughly 50% of the time.
Meaning you have to drop it and try again the next day.
This bug was already reported on Tribble.
No support on that either.
Some aspects of the Pi Canis raids are also still bugged like the Federation ships attacking thier own sats or the strange lag we have in the Eriksson System.
No support on that either.
Another "funny" bit is that the grenade launcher on the Honor Guard rifle shared a cooldown with other grenade abilities and it was condiered "working as intended"...until the exact same thing was complained about by the Fed players with regards to the Adapted MACO set.
Then it was "fixed".
This is what Superchum (snoggymack22) means by "problems".
It's nothing anyone wants to see happen to the Romulans.:(
Think about it and ask yourself "is existing really enough"?
We all know they should make a super dooper Foundry Aliens Alliance faction :P ... or failing that... Undine.. we need moar Undine!!!!
Seriously? The Cardassians were irrelevant until Deep Space Nine. Even at their peak they were little more than Dominion brown-nosers. The Romulans span the series from TOS through the most recent film. The Romulans have been the antagonists in the last two movies. How many feature films have the Carddies been pivotal in, or even mentioned?
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@de: um... get over it. And yes, MES does that too.
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