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Kill count Change in PVP not mentioned in Release Notes
starmanj
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Kill count Change in PVP not mentioned in Release Notes. Why was this not mentioned in the release notes?
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It was added this morning: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=8356761#post8356761 and http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=569851
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Not at all surprising. Seems to be the norm lately, to "slip in" an extra change or two at the last minute (usually a change which upsets a lot of people).
You are on the right path to sink the game since I've been thinking lately this is what you are looking for.
just keep toying with your playerbase...
I really cannot say anything else... you just think Cryptic would learn from their mistakes...
It resolved an exploit, so it needed to be added in after maintenance started. Some players were lowering settings to the lowest counts and receiving rewards reserved for much longer gameplay. You can still participate in private matches and earn credit for the dailies and repeatables, but matches must be kept at the default settings or higher.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Just ending the game...
There was no exploit and PvP Private matches have counted towards the daily since the Private PvP system has been released. A lot of fleets use the Private Challenge System to practice PvP against each other and have to look forward to no rewards now. We are being forced to go into PvP against JHAS and other elitist fleet combat to get our dilithium.
This is completely unacceptable.
15 kills is way too many for a head to head match. I can't even imagine who finds that fun.
I can't stand PvP in general as it manages to encompass virtually every elitist snob trend that make video games unbearable, but even so, you can't really think this was going to sneak in under the radar this way without creating more problems than it solves. For goodness' sake.
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"It resolved an exploit"
If that were the case, why was this not "fixed" months/years ago? The system has been set up this way since launched, and you are just now getting to fixing such "exploits" ? You've got to have known that the exploit existed before now.
Other MMOs are quickly "hotfixed" when exploits of a certain magnitude are detected. So either this wasn't an exploit, or it was deemed "acceptable" until now.
The possibility to use the dil store anywhere to sell stuff for ec at the 50% rate (under the ship equipment->hanger items->sell tab)
That that worked was clearly an oversight, but boy was it a handy one ^^
Please make no mistake -- you can still practice PvP through the challenge system, you just need to complete 15 kills (example for Arenas) if you want to be rewarded for it. If you set it to 5 kills, for example, you can still run the match, but it won't count towards the daily. The dailys' rewards are designed to be rewarded based off 3 completed matches that have more than 5 kills, 10 station health, 100 capture points, etc. per match, meaning the default settings we've always had.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Or perhaps with recent up-grades to the Game Engine, it became possible to easily rectify the problem... ? ...
Naahh... I don't believe that one either...
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rubbish.. this is just some plan to force us to buy dilithium for the useless starbase projects.
exploit, fix it.
bug, fix it.
anyone play final fantasy xi? remember the banhammer of 2009? yeah, they fixed an exploit that was going on for years by many of the faithful veterans of the game. they knew of the exploit, secretly spent a year collecting data on who was abusing it, and patched the exploit, placed countermeasures, and banning hundreds if not thousands of hardcore endgame-focused paying customers.
be lucky that you guys weren't reprimanded in any way whatsoever.
If it had been here for a week or two.. I would agree.... but its been here since season 4? .. thats over what? year and a half? ... like the socalled hacker who got into cryptics database and they didnt tell us until last year?
The only ones who will suffer from this.. is them... if they want to take back all the EC earnt from grinding pvp... well... a lot more people will suffer.
As I do not engage in PVP activities very often (due to it being utterly broken in STO), I don't see where this threat of reprimand, is necessary to this thread.
Yes exploits exist. Yes exploits should be fixed. But if this specific case was indeed an exploit, I have yet to hear, WHY it took so long to fix it. This so-called "exploit" has been in the game for several seasons now (dating back atleast 1-1.5 year). Most exploits when found, are fixed within a matter of days, possibly weeks. We're talking about YEARS for Cryptic to fix this "exploit".
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Also, I'd rather you encourage the people aiming for the daily reward to do their own short private matches for their daily, than to AFK through 15 kills in a public PvP queue and ruining the experience for everyone else on their team.
I just think it's gotten more publicity and wider abuse now with the nerfing of the foundry and blatant zone chat advertising to exploit the pvp system. I think they were content to fix it with the overhaul of pvp in the future until the latest game changes occured.
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Lol good one.
Very funny and somewhat truthful description. It does provide a charming mental image to Stahl, Bort and the rest of the crew
You can still get your rewards as long as you set at least 15 kills for arena and 60 for assault. I guess everyone will switch to arena farming, it won't take really longer.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
I agree with you. If someone was using their laptop and their desktop to do five kills on two toons to get their rewards they are not going to do it in a private queue anymore. They are just going to join a public queue and sit there for 15 kills and most likely it will go faster.
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Actually, hell... I could probably still level up my alts in this fashion fairly quickly. Just not as quickly. 15 kills in arena goes by quickly if you put your mind to it.
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Answer, its costing them money. Plain and simple greed folks. nothing more nothing less
This makes me laugh. Be lucky they played the game the way they designed it, until it costs them money, now all of a sudden its an "exploit"
Its not an exploit, its a money loss. DIL is money for them, if they can't tightly control it, they loose money, Cryptic has proven, they will do ANYTHING and everything to protect their money stream. its in the metrics after all.
Again, Like the IOR, Cryptic designed the system, put it in, then put rewards on it that can be maximized for time. Now that its costing them money, they will remove it, as an "exploit"
For the record, this has been "exploited" by many as far back as the days of Marks.
Stop blaming the players cryptic, its you, you made it, you put it in. Why is it suddenly the players "exploiting?"
Because you're losing money.
I find it odd that the last 2 exploit fixes involve your money stream. Interesting that.
For the record, I don't PvP in cryptic games, they're way to unbalanced for that.