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Id pay $100 NP for a Tactical Borg Cube Lockbox Ship
painstix
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What are the chances that could happen? Federation prototype, so not as strong as the real thing of course!
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1. Size. Cubes are simply too massive for players to fly. Spawn points on maps would be hectic. Hope for probes or spheres at best, or "borgified" ships like the Vo'quv or *gulp* Scimitar.
2. Orientation. Borg ships are symmetrical and very difficult to determine where you're facing. Unless they receive unique textures or new models to help in that regard, players would have to rely on camera orientation and engine trails (if they're added) to see where they're going.
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Cubes and Spheres are just too big, even the tactical cube, the smallest of the existing Borg designs are those lozenge shaped probes, want to fly one of those, be my guest while we all sit back and laugh.
If they ever give players Borg ships the ships will be a lot smaller, probably some kind of hybrid of an existing factions design with Borg assimilated features.
Players will never be given an ubership, and if they get a minicube it will be nerfed to player parity levels, advantages in combat, zero. You won't be able to lord it over anyone since your cube won't be any stronger than anyone else's and in PvP I can just about guarantee that everyone will gang up to finish off your cube first before going at each other.
That said I can't believe that the game designers are so lacking in imagination that they would have to resort to releasing the ugliest and most boring looking ships in the game to players, however delusional those players may be. Sure I usually agree that people should fly whatever they want, but in this case I hope that Cryptic and PWE have the good sense to save people from themselves.
What's next? Captain Proton Rocket Gliders?
God this stuff gives me a headache.
Nuke it from orbit, its the only way to be sure.
It is bad enough to see Starfleet officers flying Tholian ships.
I think the other big name lockbox on the horizon will be the Undine.
We can already get the Borg look with Assimilated gear for our ships, what is with the fascination with getting a Cube? I just don't get it, it's nothing to look at, be like flying around in a big patched together rusty lockbox.
As for Borg as a playable faction, that would be a game breaker, Liberated Borg, Rogue Borg maybe but regular Borg, no way that would fit. Borg don't have embassies, they don't have an economy so how would it work? And how far out the window are we going to throw Star Trek history just to get a Borg faction.
They would have to build an economy and game storyline from the ground up just for the Borg, does that sound like something Cryptic could do?
Personally, there are still plenty of other alien ships I'd rather see - like a Sona battleship /swoon.
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
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I wanna fly around in space like Captain Proton , and pew pew at the Borg with my dustbuster expose phaser .
Pew pew ... I shall expose the Borg !
I wonder if starships have bumpers that I can hang on to for a lift ... .
I don't expect my rocket pack to go to warp you know ... , since I'm being all realistic here ! :P
We, um, already have those...
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
How awesome would it be if not only was it identical in stats to existing ships, but it also had the utterly pathetic max speed of a tactical cube. I think they manage to occasionally move 1/8th the speed of my star cruiser. But usually I can outrun them by backing up.
Things i personally would die for...
Special Lock Box Ship: Diamond
Uniforms/Misc Items for lobi store:
- locutus outfit
- borg arm attachement weapons (differ then the ones we can get now, these ones actually replace your arm with a weapon)
-Addaptive Shielding - what the borg use for personal shielding
-Borg Probe
-female borg body
just a few ideas :P
* reason this could work is that in voyager you see rebel borg, also seen in tng also. These borg could of wanted to join the federation and its allies and allowed them to use the items/ships ect that the borg use, to help fight the borg.
From a mechanics point of view Borg ships just aren't compatible. All playable ships bank and turn. Borg ships don't bank, and they don't really turn either. Borg ships turn on a single axis while they proceed in their chosen direction.
Also our ships have the fore/aft weapon configuration, but Borg ships don't have a fore or an aft so how would the weapons be equipped? 2 slots per face? Spheres don't even have facings so what about them? Would space sets be compatible considering that Borg ships don't have deflectors or impulse engines to speak of?
I'm sure there are more considerations, but you get the idea. I doubt Cryptic would be willing to do significant work to the game engine to allow Borg ships to act as they should. And really I wouldn't fly one given the choice, you know what they say about meeting you're heroes.
They went a bit like "I want the Galaxy variant from All Good Things, then I can oneshot every ship in the game!" or "I want the Endgame Voyager version, I'll be totally immune to everyone and kill everything with a single torpedo!".
In other terms "I want to be invincible!".
This is not really that different.
If it has a big neon sign on the side flashing "GOING OUT OF BUSINESS" , i'd have no problem with it .
But until then we'll have to settle for them giving us the minimum while making us think it's the new maximum .
5 FORWARD WEAPONS FTW !!!
I DEMAND unimatrix ship in a LOCK BOX...NOW!!!
PWE, can you hear the lovely sound of coins chinking in your big ears? Can you see the profit?
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
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And they keep complaining about it in one thread or another.
I think canon has to take a backseat to playability, anything else would also breed a "monoculture" of ships...not to mention all the invincible instawin ships would be concentrated on the Fed side.
Of course one could say that's the point of some of these demands.
The same complaints would probably also come up if this thing were put in a lockbox.
"Why doesn't my Borg Cube have millions of hitpoints?!":rolleyes:
I think as far as Borg tech in the game goes, i think we have enough already, I mean, we even have Borg Tribbles!
No, i would like some more content on the Breen, and their battlecrusiers.
Amen to that.
A Federation Prototype Borg Tactical Cube?
Sorry? What?