The "two globes" held in the Raptors claws are Romulus and Remus. Seeing as they were both destroyed in the supernova.. the new logo only shows the New Planet..
Well, it is a big stretch for the Klingon empire right now, so I guess it would work for a RSE, too. But imagining D'Tan's Mol Rihann, which is allied with both other factions, makes it much more plausible, doesn't it?
But I guess those are details. As long as we just get a Romulan faction, I am happy with either solution.
ill also welcome ANY playable Romulan Faction..
but
imho the D'Tan's Romulans are not the true ones. They are reactionists, members of the unification movement, which other Romulans may consider as a weak and foolish.
I would be very happy when they let D'Tan do his thing and instead introduce a new planet with HQ (perhaps Rator III) where the leftovers of the previous Romulan government did establish a new kind of Senate.
This would also make sense, cause the Romulan Toons could also grind for the New Romulus reputation at D'Tan's, together with Omega Reputation in the STF's.. Although IF cryptic introduces a new Romulan Omega Set, also a third reputation will be needed so every faction gets to access all 3 Omega Sets (now Normal and Adapted).. (perhaps a PVP reputation would solve this problem)
imho the D'Tan's Romulans are not the true ones. They are reactionists, members of the unification movement, which other Romulans may consider as a weak and foolish.
I would be very happy when they let D'Tan do his thing and instead introduce a new planet with HQ (perhaps Rator III) where the leftovers of the previous Romulan government did establish a new kind of Senate.
This would also make sense, cause the Romulan Toons could also grind for the New Romulus reputation at D'Tan's, together with Omega Reputation in the STF's.. Although IF cryptic introduces a new Romulan Omega Set, also a third reputation will be needed so every faction gets to access all 3 Omega Sets (now Normal and Adapted).. (perhaps a PVP reputation would solve this problem)
Agreed, a lot of Romulans probably view D'Tan as a puppet to the Federation. The center of power should not lie with New Romulus, it's not nearly big enough or populous enough to justify that.
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the Bottem line is that if theres not a playable ROMULAN FACTION in season 8 then im not playing i gess it really comes down to this i was expecting ROMULANS in season 7 and when it did not happen i stopped playing star trek and went back to wow but i do keep up on the forms and when u give us the Romulans as a playable faction i will come back untell then adios criptc im not the only player that feels this way u might wanna take that in to consideration before u denie everyone this and im not trying to hurt anyones feelings here but kdf im sick of u complaining u have the same stuff and some better then we do but the fact is the kdf was never ment to advance the did not advance in the movies or the show the romulans on the other hand is more advanced then the fed and that is what we want we want to explore and see how it is what its like to be a romulan kdf stop wineing u know your faction is complete your top rack is general ours is vise ad thats a lower rank then u the only diffrence is u get your top rank before us its about time to see romulans guys if u really want it as bad as i do u will stop playing star trek tell criptc gives the fans what they want !!!!
ok why do u say that kdf is not a completed faction its done its old news its time to add more to the game there r 3 super powers in the alpha quadrant romulans should have been put in the game in the beginning i dont see why u r fighting me on this dont u want to see how romulan goverment works how about what they do all day what is the life of one u know that star trek online is good but kdf r not the only dang fans and its so self centered all u do is want more more its never enugh for u have u ever consiterd the fact that they might be able to pay to fix kdf if they put in romulans if they get more people they get more funding more funding more money but people wont come just for kdf they need the rse
Thank you that you corrected your spelling. Without it, I could not even understand what you mean. Seriously.
Well, to be fair, the Klingon player top rank is one below the maximum rank in the force just like the Starfleet player top rank.
I agree with you that the pattern shown by some Klingon players is a bit disturbing... basically, someone talks about anything, regardless what it is, and earlier or later some guy will drop in and post "but the KDF is not finished!!!". They should not do that, and not only because real Klingons would laugh at that kind of behaviour.
I hope we Romulans will be better, once we get our faction. ^^
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ok why do u say that kdf is not a completed faction its done its old news its time to add more to the game there r 3 super powers in the alpha quadrant romulans should have been put in the game in the beginning i dont see why u r fighting me on this dont u want to see how romulan goverment works how about what they do all day what is the life of one u know that star trek online is good but kdf r not the only dang fans and its so self centered all u do is want more more its never enugh for u have u ever consiterd the fact that they might be able to pay to fix kdf if they put in romulans if they get more people they get more funding more funding more money but people wont come just for kdf they need the rse
What you say makes me sad. They seem to be eding Romulan Romulan Romulan and not KDF KDF KDF. I know I said this above but really click my link. It will show you a lot. This is a great example by what this person is saying for it goes with most of what this wiki post says.
But wow.. I just read that quote more.... So I hear now that S8 is related to the Romulans in some way... is this really what you mean? For I though you said the Empire will be focused on...
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Your lost if you lied to us.
Yes, I've read the post showing all the times Cryptic has "lied". I've said it before, but I will say it again - and in fact this is the point of my original post here - most of DStahl's comments that begin with "we plan to...", "we are working on...", "we are looking at...", "we would like to..." are all interpreted by much of the fanbase as "we promise...."
There is a huge difference between "we plan to do something", and "we promise to do something".
DStahl said in two recent interviews that there will be KDF content in May. Obviously, just based on the name of the "season", there will be Romulan content also.
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ok why do u say that kdf is not a completed faction its done its old news its time to add more to the game there r 3 super powers in the alpha quadrant romulans should have been put in the game in the beginning i dont see why u r fighting me on this dont u want to see how romulan goverment works how about what they do all day what is the life of one u know that star trek online is good but kdf r not the only dang fans and its so self centered all u do is want more more its never enugh for u have u ever consiterd the fact that they might be able to pay to fix kdf if they put in romulans if they get more people they get more funding more funding more money but people wont come just for kdf they need the rse
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The Rator III faction is a death cult that wants to annhilate all life in the galaxy, Romulans included, under the idea that the Iconians may spare a handful which may not include all of their own.
It's a straight up Cthulu faction. These are the people who, when teamed up with Federation and Klingons, would logically shoot them in the back and then turn the gun on themselves. I'm not sure they even care about the Borg.
The Rator III types are NOT traditional Romulans any more than the Mol'rihan types are.
There really aren't any traditional Romulans in-game when you get into the backstory, aside from maybe Tomalak being out there and Donatra being a Borg (who may be dead -- the STF simplification confused that -- and may be the body for the Borg Queen, who appears Romulan). Beyond that, you have Unificationists running New Romulus... and you have the Rator III Tal Shiar people, who are the ones who blew up Romulus and are basically an Iconian death cult with no real loyalty to the RSE.
making a Rom playable faction NOW would lose some players for sure. The KDF'ers would be outraged because they still have an unfinished faction and the Feds who went to play Roms would be upset because they also would get a less than complete faction, as well as giving up some dev resources that could've been spent making fed shineys.
making a Rom playable faction NOW would lose some players for sure. The KDF'ers would be outraged because they still have an unfinished faction and the Feds who went to play Roms would be upset because they also would get a less than complete faction, as well as giving up some dev resources that could've been spent making fed shineys.
It would be lose/lose for everyone.
lol wut? you mean everyone who doesn't want to play as a Romulan?
The Rator III faction is a death cult that wants to annhilate all life in the galaxy, Romulans included, under the idea that the Iconians may spare a handful which may not include all of their own.
It's a straight up Cthulu faction. These are the people who, when teamed up with Federation and Klingons, would logically shoot them in the back and then turn the gun on themselves. I'm not sure they even care about the Borg.
The Rator III types are NOT traditional Romulans any more than the Mol'rihan types are.
There really aren't any traditional Romulans in-game when you get into the backstory, aside from maybe Tomalak being out there and Donatra being a Borg (who may be dead -- the STF simplification confused that -- and may be the body for the Borg Queen, who appears Romulan). Beyond that, you have Unificationists running New Romulus... and you have the Rator III Tal Shiar people, who are the ones who blew up Romulus and are basically an Iconian death cult with no real loyalty to the RSE.
I see the current state of the RSE as being split 3 ways.... the Iconian loving Nihilists, D'Tan's peaceniks, and the majority of the RSE who don't really care about either. I'd put players in the middle ground. It just makes the most sense. Maybe have one of the main plots be trying to prevent the Tal'Shiar from seizing control of the Empire as a whole.
lol wut? you mean everyone who doesn't want to play as a Romulan?I see the current state of the RSE as being split 3 ways.... the Iconian loving Nihilists, D'Tan's peaceniks, and the majority of the RSE who don't really care about either. I'd put players in the middle ground. It just makes the most sense. Maybe have one of the main plots be trying to prevent the Tal'Shiar from seizing control of the Empire as a whole.
I really want to see the Tal Shiar's position justified somehow.
One of the problems with STO still is the interchangability of the enemies. The idea of people just being randomly evil doesn't jive for me.
Either the Iconians have mind control or they OFFERED/SHOWED the Tal Shiar something.
While I can understand making the Iconian plot a slow burn, I think justifying the Tal Shiar's actions needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.
lol wut? you mean everyone who doesn't want to play as a Romulan?I see the current state of the RSE as being split 3 ways.... the Iconian loving Nihilists, D'Tan's peaceniks, and the majority of the RSE who don't really care about either. I'd put players in the middle ground. It just makes the most sense. Maybe have one of the main plots be trying to prevent the Tal'Shiar from seizing control of the Empire as a whole.
I think you think the Roms will be part of the fed faction. I see the Roms as a third faction, with a crappy tutorial and about 10 faction specific missions to go with their 3 ships, unlockable after lvl 25 as a fed.
Anyone who is not among those who constantly whine on the forums about what they don't get, instead of enjoying what they get.
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I think you think the Roms will be part of the fed faction. I see the Roms as a third faction, with a crappy tutorial and about 10 faction specific missions to go with their 3 ships, unlockable after lvl 25 as a fed.
So whose gonna be happy with that ?
have you ever played a KDF toon? ever?
you know, NOT everybody is keen on playing shiny fed. KDF at least has style.
RSE, even unlocked at lvl 40 will be a big sale and success. And, there are many more than 3 Romulan/Reman ship designs available.
As said many times before - making Romulans a playable race in the existing 2 factions would be a VERY BAD idea, cause:
- there already ARE romulan styled toons, which nobody would care to re-create to get just the same equipment with the same UI color
- Cryptic would loose all the slot sales (toon slots, bank slots, inventory slots, respecs, DOFF packs, DOFF space, fleet bases sinks... etc, you get the picture)
- after the last interview with DStahl where he even talks about possible future CARDASSIAN faction, im SURE there will be a standalone Romulan faction in 2013- even, perhaps in may.
I don't expect it to start at lvl1, im ok with 40, but it will be enough for the die-hard fans which do not wanna play in the lollypop FED world and also do not feel comfortable in the red bloody atmosphere of the KDF.
There is a strong Romulan fanbase, do not underestimate it
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It pains me to say that I know what the Roms will feel if the faction is introduced too early, 3 years and the KDF isn't close to being complete.
I think you think the Roms will be part of the fed faction. I see the Roms as a third faction, with a crappy tutorial and about 10 faction specific missions to go with their 3 ships, unlockable after lvl 25 as a fed.
So whose gonna be happy with that ?
Some people WILL be happy with that and I think those people may leave the KDF for the new shiny, creating TWO factions that it's only HALF as worth developing things for as it is with the KDF at present.
I see 4 options:
1) Everything gets folded into the Feds.
2) All content is made faction agnostic.
3) Raise the KDF starting level to 50. Have Romulans start at 50. Eliminate the idea of leveling faction alts at all and put the focus squarely on endgame content for all non-Fed factions.
4) Put everything on hold until the KDF have another 20 levels of content and put Romulans on hold until they have 30+ unique missions.
Any of these will produce rancor but any option I can think of that isn't one of these three will produce rancor without doing anything useful or productive for the game. I don't think #4 will happen under any circumstances so Cryptic really needs to pick one from #1-3 because anything else I can think of would be unproductive.
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It pains me to say that I know what the Roms will feel if the faction is introduced too early, 3 years and the KDF isn't close to being complete.
You have no bloody clue whatsoever because you have been able to enjoy your faction from day one whereas every other non-Fed faction fan is still waiting.
I would be happy just to be able to roll a Romulan with JUST the content that KDF got on day 1.
You KDF fans need to realize just how much you DO have to enjoy. :P
3) Raise the KDF starting level to 50. Have Romulans start at 50. Eliminate the idea of eveling faction alts at all and put the focus squarely on endgame content for all non-Fed factions.
4) Put everything on hold until the KDF have another 20 levels of content and put Romulans on hold until they have 30+ unique missions.
1: Seems nice.. I would rather be converted to FEds than suffer the wrath of being rediculed/ignored all the time (read my Link Post)
3: Yah.. like that will end well... :mad:
4: Yah.. how about 30+ KDF unique first please.
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I think you think the Roms will be part of the fed faction. I see the Roms as a third faction, with a crappy tutorial and about 10 faction specific missions to go with their 3 ships, unlockable after lvl 25 as a fed.
So whose gonna be happy with that ?
Thats the spitting image of the Empire.
R'tolves Will Spread Thier Peace and Will Prevail Over the Hostiles Who Dare Hurt Such A Isolationist Consitutional Monarchy!
3) Raise the KDF starting level to 50. Have Romulans start at 50. Eliminate the idea of leveling faction alts at all and put the focus squarely on endgame content for all non-Fed factions.
if i were cryptic i would vote for option #2.
PLUS, all new factions starting at lvl 40 (for the ship sales - first ship at lvl 40 for free, you get to choose from 3, then you HAVE to buy a new ship at lvl 50).
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finally, i hope it is Rator III.
seems to me that Borg is the common enemy.. ?
*cough* theusualproblemsafteramajorupgrade *cough*
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ill also welcome ANY playable Romulan Faction..
but
imho the D'Tan's Romulans are not the true ones. They are reactionists, members of the unification movement, which other Romulans may consider as a weak and foolish.
I would be very happy when they let D'Tan do his thing and instead introduce a new planet with HQ (perhaps Rator III) where the leftovers of the previous Romulan government did establish a new kind of Senate.
This would also make sense, cause the Romulan Toons could also grind for the New Romulus reputation at D'Tan's, together with Omega Reputation in the STF's.. Although IF cryptic introduces a new Romulan Omega Set, also a third reputation will be needed so every faction gets to access all 3 Omega Sets (now Normal and Adapted).. (perhaps a PVP reputation would solve this problem)
Agreed, a lot of Romulans probably view D'Tan as a puppet to the Federation. The center of power should not lie with New Romulus, it's not nearly big enough or populous enough to justify that.
ok why do u say that kdf is not a completed faction its done its old news its time to add more to the game there r 3 super powers in the alpha quadrant romulans should have been put in the game in the beginning i dont see why u r fighting me on this dont u want to see how romulan goverment works how about what they do all day what is the life of one u know that star trek online is good but kdf r not the only dang fans and its so self centered all u do is want more more its never enugh for u have u ever consiterd the fact that they might be able to pay to fix kdf if they put in romulans if they get more people they get more funding more funding more money but people wont come just for kdf they need the rse
Yes, I've read the post showing all the times Cryptic has "lied". I've said it before, but I will say it again - and in fact this is the point of my original post here - most of DStahl's comments that begin with "we plan to...", "we are working on...", "we are looking at...", "we would like to..." are all interpreted by much of the fanbase as "we promise...."
There is a huge difference between "we plan to do something", and "we promise to do something".
DStahl said in two recent interviews that there will be KDF content in May. Obviously, just based on the name of the "season", there will be Romulan content also.
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Are they?
The Rator III faction is a death cult that wants to annhilate all life in the galaxy, Romulans included, under the idea that the Iconians may spare a handful which may not include all of their own.
It's a straight up Cthulu faction. These are the people who, when teamed up with Federation and Klingons, would logically shoot them in the back and then turn the gun on themselves. I'm not sure they even care about the Borg.
The Rator III types are NOT traditional Romulans any more than the Mol'rihan types are.
There really aren't any traditional Romulans in-game when you get into the backstory, aside from maybe Tomalak being out there and Donatra being a Borg (who may be dead -- the STF simplification confused that -- and may be the body for the Borg Queen, who appears Romulan). Beyond that, you have Unificationists running New Romulus... and you have the Rator III Tal Shiar people, who are the ones who blew up Romulus and are basically an Iconian death cult with no real loyalty to the RSE.
It would be lose/lose for everyone.
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I really want to see the Tal Shiar's position justified somehow.
One of the problems with STO still is the interchangability of the enemies. The idea of people just being randomly evil doesn't jive for me.
Either the Iconians have mind control or they OFFERED/SHOWED the Tal Shiar something.
While I can understand making the Iconian plot a slow burn, I think justifying the Tal Shiar's actions needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.
I think you think the Roms will be part of the fed faction. I see the Roms as a third faction, with a crappy tutorial and about 10 faction specific missions to go with their 3 ships, unlockable after lvl 25 as a fed.
So whose gonna be happy with that ?
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Exactly. Until 3 seasons go by and the feds get 4 new shineys and the rest get nada.
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
have you ever played a KDF toon? ever?
you know, NOT everybody is keen on playing shiny fed. KDF at least has style.
RSE, even unlocked at lvl 40 will be a big sale and success. And, there are many more than 3 Romulan/Reman ship designs available.
As said many times before - making Romulans a playable race in the existing 2 factions would be a VERY BAD idea, cause:
- there already ARE romulan styled toons, which nobody would care to re-create to get just the same equipment with the same UI color
- Cryptic would loose all the slot sales (toon slots, bank slots, inventory slots, respecs, DOFF packs, DOFF space, fleet bases sinks... etc, you get the picture)
- after the last interview with DStahl where he even talks about possible future CARDASSIAN faction, im SURE there will be a standalone Romulan faction in 2013- even, perhaps in may.
I don't expect it to start at lvl1, im ok with 40, but it will be enough for the die-hard fans which do not wanna play in the lollypop FED world and also do not feel comfortable in the red bloody atmosphere of the KDF.
There is a strong Romulan fanbase, do not underestimate it
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It pains me to say that I know what the Roms will feel if the faction is introduced too early, 3 years and the KDF isn't close to being complete.
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
Some people WILL be happy with that and I think those people may leave the KDF for the new shiny, creating TWO factions that it's only HALF as worth developing things for as it is with the KDF at present.
I see 4 options:
1) Everything gets folded into the Feds.
2) All content is made faction agnostic.
3) Raise the KDF starting level to 50. Have Romulans start at 50. Eliminate the idea of leveling faction alts at all and put the focus squarely on endgame content for all non-Fed factions.
4) Put everything on hold until the KDF have another 20 levels of content and put Romulans on hold until they have 30+ unique missions.
Any of these will produce rancor but any option I can think of that isn't one of these three will produce rancor without doing anything useful or productive for the game. I don't think #4 will happen under any circumstances so Cryptic really needs to pick one from #1-3 because anything else I can think of would be unproductive.
And I'd like to be proven wrong on this.
You have no bloody clue whatsoever because you have been able to enjoy your faction from day one whereas every other non-Fed faction fan is still waiting.
I would be happy just to be able to roll a Romulan with JUST the content that KDF got on day 1.
You KDF fans need to realize just how much you DO have to enjoy. :P
1: Seems nice.. I would rather be converted to FEds than suffer the wrath of being rediculed/ignored all the time (read my Link Post)
3: Yah.. like that will end well... :mad:
4: Yah.. how about 30+ KDF unique first please.
Thats the spitting image of the Empire.
if i were cryptic i would vote for option #2.
PLUS, all new factions starting at lvl 40 (for the ship sales - first ship at lvl 40 for free, you get to choose from 3, then you HAVE to buy a new ship at lvl 50).
No. You really wouldn't. You'd have to level a Fed to 6. Easy peasy.
Then ... here's the part that would really kill it for you.
You'd have to level the new Romulan character ONLY through PVP.
Level 1 PVP.
When was the last time someone queued up for that?
Right.
Your character couldn't make it to level 10. There'd be no way to gain the XP.