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So why are people worried about the "End of the World"?

lonnehartlonnehart Member Posts: 846 Arc User
edited December 2012 in Ten Forward
Throughout the history of mankind dates to the end of the world have been set. People seem to wait eagerly for that day to come, and are disappointed (or relieved) when it doesn't come. Even in the 20th and 21st centuries we continue this thing even though we are technologically advanced and have better knowledge of the world.

True there seems to be ancient knowledge that states that it will come. Nostrodamus (spelling?) seems to predict it. The Mayan calander ends at that date (but could be mistranslated and still says nothing about an ending). It's late evening now and nothing's happened yet. Not that I'm worried about it. After all, life's way too short to worry about something you have no control over. If it ends, it ends... and that's it.

So what makes people so obsessed with the end of the world? And what thoughts does everyone else have about it?
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  • disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Some people just want to watch the world burn.......:rolleyes:
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The Oracle at Delphi (who I trust a lot more than a bunch of Mayans) does not predict an end of the world

    Ergo there isn't one
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Because peoples life have become so boring, that they have to imagine the world end, to add even a little content to their lives.
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  • ericandrewrossericandrewross Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    People are making way too much of this Mayan Calender thing... do they not realize that hundreds of years ago some poor shmuck was carving the thing into stone? The only reason the Mayan calender stops is the guy said to himself "I am several hundred years ahead on this thing and my arms are about to fall off... I quit!"
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Why are people so obsessed with it? Because everyone needs THEIR generation to be special, to be important, to be the best generation.

    We talk about how awful and stupid and silly old generations with their weird dark ages and Inquisitions were, and how much worse they were before that. Nevermind most of what we think about the dark ages never happened and much of what we believe about the Inquisition was invented later to make what was going on at that time look less despicable by comparison. Then we make up lies to belittle the generations that follow us - the youngest current adult generation in the Western world has the lowest rate of crime, drug use, or unwanted pregnancy of any generation since we've kept track, but ask anyone over 50 if they believe the same. Then ask that youngest generation what they think about their education compared to their elders.

    Doomsday locks those lies forever. It saws the rungs off the ladder with you at the top, so no generation will ever surpass yours. And if there's a "worse" generation after yours, you get to blame them for bringing this on you.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Actually the current young adults have the HIGHEST rate of crime of any in the last 100 years
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Not true, people under 30 are completely responsible for the decline in crime rates in that time. Crime rates people over 30 have been stable and over 60 have actually exploded.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Rot

    The majority of Drug users are under 20
    The majority of petty criminals are under 30 (or over 70 in some cases)
    Plus of course there are countless minor crimes commited by the young (relationships under age for example)

    Also look at all the youngsters who have extremely limited education
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    http://crimeinamerica.net/crime-rates-united-states/

    Read them over. Violent crime and sex crime rates in ages 10-24 are down 77% since 1994 alone, and 1994 was the first uptick after thirty consecutive years of decline. Even the sudden resurgence of youth violence in 2010-11 didn't managed to bring rates back to 10% of what they were in the 1950's, and that's not even corrected for the fact that things that were once considered acceptable youth behaviors (or at least were not considered illegal) are now violent/sex felonies. Petty crime rates are down even more.

    You can have all the opinions you want, and all the "Oh just look at all the" NO. Your opinion is on one of the most statistically studied facts in the entire world, and it is wrong.

    Even allowing the BoJ's unscientific surveys, the only age group showing increasing crime from generation to generation is those over 50, and their 180% per year increase in unreported violent crime by seniors is questionable at best.
  • himacleshimacles Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Worst. Apocalypse. Ever.

    :mad:
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The site's been down so long I thought california slid off into the ocean, and i hadn't heard it on the news yet.
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  • fourxgamerfourxgamer Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    The Oracle at Delphi (who I trust a lot more than a bunch of Mayans) does not predict an end of the world

    Ergo there isn't one

    In a later post you blurt out "rot" for seemingly no reason.

    I'm on to you, Pythian. Demons will never predict the end of the world, they are in denial.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Demons don't exist (a construct of humanity)
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Read them over. Violent crime and sex crime rates in ages 10-24 are down 77% since 1994 alone, and 1994 was the first uptick after thirty consecutive years of decline.

    no they aren't
    many teenagers commit a "sex" crime with their boy/girl friends every week
    Even the sudden resurgence of youth violence in 2010-11 didn't managed to bring rates back to 10% of what they were in the 1950's, and that's not even corrected for the fact that things that were once considered acceptable youth behaviors (or at least were not considered illegal) are now violent/sex felonies. Petty crime rates are down even more.
    Drinking underage
    Smoking underage
    Sex underage
    Driving underage
    carrying a knife
    carrying a gun
    accessing websites while underage

    all crimes

    You can have all the opinions you want, and all the "Oh just look at all the" NO. Your opinion is on one of the most statistically studied facts in the entire world, and it is wrong.

    US crime figures are not even in the top 10 most studied theorys
    and aren't a fact

    use drugs ONCE and you are a criminal
    drink one beer under age you are a criminal
    etc
    Even allowing the BoJ's unscientific surveys, the only age group showing increasing crime from generation to generation is those over 50, and their 180% per year increase in unreported violent crime by seniors is questionable at best.

    no statistic has value unless its global
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    That little bit of soul left in most people feels guilty about how mean and petty most people are and desires punishment.
  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    hevach wrote: »
    You can have all the opinions you want, and all the "Oh just look at all the" NO. Your opinion is on one of the most statistically studied facts in the entire world, and it is wrong.

    Thank you for trying to use knowledge against someone who will reply with idiocy like this;
    Idiocy wrote:
    many teenagers commit a "sex" crime with their boy/girl friends every week

    I stopped trying to deal reasonably with people like that years ago and now find insults to be more effective.
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  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    As for the apocalypse: Humans are a fearful pack ape prone to delusion. The end.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    twg042370 wrote: »
    Thank you for trying to use knowledge against someone who will reply with idiocy like this;



    I stopped trying to deal reasonably with people like that years ago and now find insults to be more effective.

    yeah right
    remember its ILLEGAL for a reason
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  • maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    lonnehart wrote: »
    Throughout the history of mankind dates to the end of the world have been set. People seem to wait eagerly for that day to come, and are disappointed (or relieved) when it doesn't come. Even in the 20th and 21st centuries we continue this thing even though we are technologically advanced and have better knowledge of the world.

    True there seems to be ancient knowledge that states that it will come. Nostrodamus (spelling?) seems to predict it. The Mayan calander ends at that date (but could be mistranslated and still says nothing about an ending). It's late evening now and nothing's happened yet. Not that I'm worried about it. After all, life's way too short to worry about something you have no control over. If it ends, it ends... and that's it.

    So what makes people so obsessed with the end of the world? And what thoughts does everyone else have about it?

    i think why people are so upset about it is they cant log into sto and grind for the day if they are dead.

    also no utubes or netflixes or anyting.
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  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    sollvax wrote: »
    yeah right
    remember its ILLEGAL for a reason

    Teens having sex with each other is illegal...

    1. In barabaric theocracies.

    2. And their reasons are idiotic and easily dismissed.
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,159 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    due to a recent volcano eruption the end of the world has been delayed.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    twg042370 wrote: »
    Teens having sex with each other is illegal...

    1. In barabaric theocracies.

    2. And their reasons are idiotic and easily dismissed.
    "barbaric theocracy" has nothing to do with it.....
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    How the hell did we get to theocracies?
    People worry about the unknown, many fear it. The end of the world means death and nobody really knows what happens after that, the ultimate unknown. Religions claim to know what happens, but have no real way to prove it. Science claims that death is the end of consciousness, but has no way to disprove the possibility that consciousness continues in some form beyond death, so the answer remains an unknown.
    As for being disappointed, it's not so much disappointment that the world didn't end, it's disappointment that the world didn't change in some significant way, that some new adventure didn't take place to lift people out of the drudgery of their mundane daily lives.
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  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Science claims that death is the end of consciousness, but has no way to disprove the possibility that consciousness continues in some form beyond death, so the answer remains an unknown.
    You can't disprove something that doesn't exist.

    At its core, random apoclypses are religious in nature. They depend upon invisible guiding forces to the universe. Supernatural causes. Some are full throated Revelation stuff. Some are just moonbats replacing old timey faith with crystals and pyramid builders. But all are nonsense. The universe is full if ways to kill us, no need to make things up.

    And we're on to theocracies becaus trollvax has the attitudes of someone who'd enjoy living in one and isn't afraid to post them.
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  • emperormakemperormak Member Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I worry about the "End of the World" because if the world ends, I'll be dead. And I don't want to be dead. Being dead is bad.
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    twg042370 wrote: »
    You can't disprove something that doesn't exist.
    Prove it. Without quantifiable measurable proof it's just theory and opinion, not fact, science does not have all the answers, not yet and not for a very long time. The same can be said for religion.
    We've now drifted into the realm of philosophy which frankly I have no interest in indulging in in a gaming forum.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Theocracy??

    Ah you mean like EVERY country in Europe??

    As to life after death
    it exists
    it has to

    A Human being consists of a lump of meat a pile of bones some fluids and an electrical charge
    The matter of course continues to exist in some form (you can't destroy matter merely change its state)
    The Electrical charge eventually fades

    but the bit thats you
    your Animus your soul your spirit call it what you will
    is as eternal as the cosmos itself

    Because its thought
    the one thing that actually Can travel faster than light
    Live long and Prosper
  • punijabpunijab Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    First off, let's start with arguing this statement:
    sollvax wrote: »

    As to life after death
    it exists
    it has to

    It does not have to. In fact, it makes just as much sense to say it doesn't exist. Because if we have some life force, where is it? In which part of the body does it reside? Why can we not detect it? There is no fundamental law of the universe which states "living things must have some mystical life force." Your thoughts and the way you think is based upon how the different regions of your brain are interconnected. There is no reason to say "There must be some life force inside us all." Although, just to be clear, I'm not saying that it is impossible either. I'm only saying that it is possible to explain life without some unknown factor.

    On the topic of why people are obsessed with the end of the world, there are a number of reasons.

    1: Ignorance & Fear - People don't know how everything works. We might think we do, but we don't. And people are afraid of what they don't understand. They don't understand how the Mayans, an ancient and comparatively primitive people, could make an accurate calendar so long ago. Therefore they think the Mayans have some special understanding of the universe, because they don't understand it. They also don't understand how the long-run calendar works. They don't really know the Mayan myths, so they jump to conclusions. The 13th baktun, (i.e. cycle of the long-run calendar) which is what 2012 is, is not supposed to mean the world will end. The original stories only say that some significant changes will begin to occur.

    2: Reality - The world WILL end. Perhaps not today, or tomorrow, or a thousand years from now. But eventually, it must end. Whether it be during the sun's final stages, a large rock hurtling into the planet, an alien attack, or ourselves, eventually the Earth must be destroyed. The fact that it was created at some point in time mandates this. Since it had a beginning, it must have an ending. Ultimately, everything that we know must end. Our solar system, our galaxy, perhaps even our universe, will one day cease to exist. This scares people. They don't like it. I don't like it either, but it's reality. Nothing can last forever, and that's just the way it is.

    Also before you rage at me screaming "You're wrong!!!" keep in mind this is solely my opinion, based on the facts that I know and what I believe to be true. Look these things up for yourselves and believe what you like, but don't try to convince me I'm wrong. You won't be able to do it, just like I cannot convince you to believe what I believe.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It does not have to. In fact, it makes just as much sense to say it doesn't exist. Because if we have some life force, where is it? In which part of the body does it reside?

    all of it

    as a bioelectric charge if nothing else
    Why can we not detect it? There is no fundamental law of the universe which states "living things must have some mystical life force."

    mystical??

    Life has the quality of life
    life endures
    Your thoughts and the way you think is based upon how the different regions of your brain are interconnected. There is no reason to say "There must be some life force inside us all." Although, just to be clear, I'm not saying that it is impossible either. I'm only saying that it is possible to explain life without some unknown factor.

    nope
    automation yes
    life no
    A creature without a soul for want of a better word is a machine
    it eats reproduces and breaks wind
    it does not play games or write poetry

    As to the world

    Forever and Ever world without end

    there is no reason for it to end
    Live long and Prosper
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