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Constructive feedback on Q's Winter Wonderland
toiva
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First off, lovely map. Could be bigger, but whatever, it's not supposed to be a new adventure zone.
Snowball battles and ice-skating (or just sliding) is great as well. Certainly adds to the relaxing holiday atmosphere.
Now onto the missions present in there: All 3 are amusing, fast paced. When the PvP race is "adjusted" to reward all who should be rewarded and to disqualify for the shortcut, I'll have nothing to object to.
And here comes the catch, after spending about 30 mins in the Winter Wonderland, you have nothing more to do. You probably lived through one snowman apocalypse, you won a race against the NPC (thus completing the daily/getting 40 photos) and raced against other players (I'll assume you got the 6 tags necessary for an Epohh, since, unless subject to bugs, can find an underpopulated instance and place well in the race).
Now there's nothing more to do on the NPC racetrack, and you got all Epohh tags you can use for the day. The only thing left to do is digging in the snow for commodities while waiting for another snowman attack. That gets your finger and the F key in trouble.
Why not adding some little repeatable missions rewarding as little as 1, 2 or 3 commodities to do in between the main event of the map? What about building igloos? Tracking the few wild animals in there? Actually, what about the snowman "regiment" hidden in a valley? I'm sure you could think of many amusing anecdotes set in this map.
Also, I'm not sure if it's possible to race "privately" against another player (or the whole team you're part of), off the regular race times. Could be fun challenges as well, on both tracks.
All these changes could make the Winter Wonderland a pleasant place to stay in and have fun. Off course, if having players stay there for prolonged periods of time was not your intention, just ignore this post. If not, think of these or similar ideas for the years to come (I doubt you could add anything in time, unless it's been created already, but not yet added in).
Thanks for reading and happy playing. (too soon for anything like "happy holidays",...)
Snowball battles and ice-skating (or just sliding) is great as well. Certainly adds to the relaxing holiday atmosphere.
Now onto the missions present in there: All 3 are amusing, fast paced. When the PvP race is "adjusted" to reward all who should be rewarded and to disqualify for the shortcut, I'll have nothing to object to.
And here comes the catch, after spending about 30 mins in the Winter Wonderland, you have nothing more to do. You probably lived through one snowman apocalypse, you won a race against the NPC (thus completing the daily/getting 40 photos) and raced against other players (I'll assume you got the 6 tags necessary for an Epohh, since, unless subject to bugs, can find an underpopulated instance and place well in the race).
Now there's nothing more to do on the NPC racetrack, and you got all Epohh tags you can use for the day. The only thing left to do is digging in the snow for commodities while waiting for another snowman attack. That gets your finger and the F key in trouble.
Why not adding some little repeatable missions rewarding as little as 1, 2 or 3 commodities to do in between the main event of the map? What about building igloos? Tracking the few wild animals in there? Actually, what about the snowman "regiment" hidden in a valley? I'm sure you could think of many amusing anecdotes set in this map.
Also, I'm not sure if it's possible to race "privately" against another player (or the whole team you're part of), off the regular race times. Could be fun challenges as well, on both tracks.
All these changes could make the Winter Wonderland a pleasant place to stay in and have fun. Off course, if having players stay there for prolonged periods of time was not your intention, just ignore this post. If not, think of these or similar ideas for the years to come (I doubt you could add anything in time, unless it's been created already, but not yet added in).
Thanks for reading and happy playing. (too soon for anything like "happy holidays",...)
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Also, it'd be nice to have some other big group minigames, sort of like you get in the NR Adventure Zone.
Run around searching for presents to turn in to Q?
Bat'leth challenge against a Snowman Warrior?
Cocoa and Cookies Dabo?
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
Maybe you should stop buying holiday bundles and search ornamets in snow piles or wait few minutes for the next snowball fight....short ,playing the game.If you buy the rewards of course you have nothing to do.
Not sure I get your post, personnaly I don't buy rewards, I save my dil for ships.
And to others, yes, little missions that can be done in 5 or 10 mins are what is missing, in my opinion. Just something else to do (and be modestly rewarded for) instead of just pressing F, F, F, ...
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
after snowbal fight you get some ornamets .With them you can buy rewards .After I do the race with all my toons I move to main and play pvp races and snowball fights .I even stopped going to for dilithium because of that....its fun and there are never enough ornamets.Try to set a goal (like buying all winter rewards) then you will see how many things to do are there :rolleyes:
P.S.Dont forget ,from time to time go on esd and hit people with snowballs
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That's what I'm saying, the snowball fights are the only reason to remain on the map, but you have to wait 25 mins for the next one.
There's a lot of time in between PvP races, and no real reason to running more than 1 to 2 a day.
Adding little missions that reward the winter commodities will help you with that goal of getting the winter rewards (note, already got most of what i wanted in the last day, so...).
I just want to extend to map to a real winter "playground" you don't want to leave and go home.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
Yes, if it is intentionally simple, I agree it should stay the way it is (hence the line about ignoring the original post
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
what id like to see for next year to give us more stuff to do....
snowman making competition or snowcastle making competition. more ways to earn the looty stuff to buy the other looty stuff you know.
ability to lie down and make snow angels...
figure skating competition !!
a special arena sactioned area for one on one duels or mass snowball pvp fun?
Someone complained in chat that the Devs should have been spending their time working on "content" instead of this. My PvP queue popped before I could ask what he considered "content".
I'm liking the additional stuff I can earn. My Klingons finally get a coat - woohoo!
Would I like even more ways to earn the commodities to get my new stuff? Yes. Maybe next year.
In the end, I've wanted a Breen ship since they were first put in game. Now I can have that with only about 2.5 times the grind I went through last year for just an accolade. I'm happy with that.
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+1 for the ability to make snow angels
Also could we have an option to convert one commodity into another? I found 15 epohh tags in snowpiles yesterday, already having 40 plus from the pvp race. GPL is meh until there is something nice in the GPL store.
In the end this event is better than last years so thank you.
snowman alerts are cool
the endurance race was cool
I do agree that they need to kill the shortcut on the PvP race. Aside from that, I absolutely agree that their focus should go back to the pieces of the game that stick around all year. This is a cool event, but there's no reason to have the Dev team dump time into creating a temporary zone that can keep people entertained for hours on end.
Wow, you're right. I'm not sure how I could have possibly missed it. Grinding for five whole minutes a day, in order to get a free ship, is just way too much work. They're totally missing the point of this holiday. They should give you everything, all at once, for no effort on your part at all.
That would make it the best, most profitable game ever!
Or was your point that they're missing the capitalist spirit of the holiday, and they should be selling us something instead of giving it to us at no cost, for a relatively small investment of time?
already have the short winter outfit, now i need to grind for the super-short and long.. oh. at least on my main
There's always the minuscule chance we'll get something of it next year (if we're here, and the game's still around).
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
My character Tsin'xing
Unfortunately everyone cheats on the fast and flurious race making it not worth running for folks who play by the rules.
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the question now is: would you win if it was fair? All that bug did was shorten the track...nothing more.
I really wish they wouldn't spend resouces on limited time winter events, I'd rather them just not have a winter event and spend the time and resources developing more episodes and STFs. Put the Breen ship in a lockbox instead and use that to help fund more content. They can put the clothing items in the z-store instead to.
I neither want or expect devs to have to make special events for Winter or any other season, more lasting content is better then this limited time stuff.
How would you win if it was fair?
By running the course the way it was MEANT to be run better than the rest of the participants.
My character Tsin'xing
instead of turning, i jump, turn in the air. when i'm on ground again i start running...i actually won the race twice by shortening it and once doing as it was intended. My point is, it is still a competition, just a shorter one. (the boots might come in handy)