The Breen Chel Grett Warship comes with an Energy Dissipator console which fires a targetable Energy Dissipating Blast that causes significant subsystem drain and has a chance to knock a single subsystem offline for a short duration. The Energy Dissipator can be equipped in any console slot on any Breen ship.
The box that the ship comes in, which cannot be opened until the minimum rank listed above, is bound upon pickup.
Looks very much like a MVAM setup with an extra aft weapon, less turn, and an extra engi console slot.
I wonder what they mean when they say "significant" energy drain on all sub-systems, and it can be equiped on "any breen ship". are theres other i dont know about?
Looks very much like a MVAM setup with an extra aft weapon, less turn, and an extra engi console slot.
I wonder what they mean when they say "significant" energy drain on all sub-systems, and it can be equiped on "any breen ship". are theres other i dont know about?
ok... it wasn't a cruiser at all. another destroyer like the vet ships, interesting.
it has potential, an escort layout with 8 weapons but a very below escort turn rate. it wont quite be the good balance a kdf battle cruiser is of rugged endurance with enough tactical to hit really hard, its something else entirely, thats going to have to rely on sci instead. ships that are to spread out tend to not be that great at any one thing, or they can use 2 AtB and they are extreamly awesome, this is looking more like the former honestly, but it will certainly be a fun ship to play with once i get it.
i had a feeling a breen lockbox was next, and more breen are on the way. that means we can count on another cross faction carrier :mad:
after that lock box, im guessing gamma quadrant or strait up dominion lock box, with a gamma quadrant sector block finally
I wonder what they mean when they say "significant" energy drain on all sub-systems...
These figures are subject to change, but the current effects of the power are as follows:
- It launches a targetable projectile that travels more quickly than something like a HY Plasma.
- Upon impact with its target, it immediately drains -10 from all Subsystems (enhanced by the user's Flow Capacitors up to -15 @ 99 skill, and can be reduced by the target with Power Insulators skill)
- It also has a small chance to knock one Subsystem completely offline for up to 10sec at the point of impact. (duration cannot be improved with skill, but can be reduced with Subsystem Repair)
- Each second after the initial impact, it will drain an additional -2 energy from all Subsystems (again, up to -3 with Flow Cap, and reduced by the target's Power Insulators)
- It lasts a total of 15seconds, but can be removed at any time by using Engineering Team.
... and it can be equiped on "any breen ship". are theres other i dont know about?
There are no additional Breen starships being designed at this time, but we wanted to make the wording open enough to allow for the possibility at some point in the future.
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These figures are subject to change, but the current effects of the power are as follows:
- It launches a targetable projectile that travels more quickly than something like a HY Plasma.
- Upon impact with its target, it immediately drains -10 from all Subsystems (enhanced by the user's Flow Capacitors up to -15 @ 99 skill, and can be reduced by the target with Power Insulators skill)
- It also has a small chance to knock one Subsystem completely offline for up to 10sec at the point of impact. (duration cannot be improved with skill, but can be reduced with Subsystem Repair)
- Each second after the initial impact, it will drain an additional -2 energy from all Subsystems (again, up to -3 with Flow Cap, and reduced by the target's Power Insulators)
- It lasts a total of 15seconds, but can be removed at any time by using Engineering Team.
There are no additional Breen starships being designed at this time, but we wanted to make the wording open enough to allow for the possibility at some point in the future.
These figures are subject to change, but the current effects of the power are as follows:
- It launches a targetable projectile that travels more quickly than something like a HY Plasma.
- Upon impact with its target, it immediately drains -10 from all Subsystems (enhanced by the user's Flow Capacitors up to -15 @ 99 skill, and can be reduced by the target with Power Insulators skill)
- It also has a small chance to knock one Subsystem completely offline for up to 10sec at the point of impact. (duration cannot be improved with skill, but can be reduced with Subsystem Repair)
- Each second after the initial impact, it will drain an additional -2 energy from all Subsystems (again, up to -3 with Flow Cap, and reduced by the target's Power Insulators)
- It lasts a total of 15seconds, but can be removed at any time by using Engineering Team.
There are no additional Breen starships being designed at this time, but we wanted to make the wording open enough to allow for the possibility at some point in the future.
so what about the immunity we gained after the dominion war? did we scrap the changes to make our ships survive it?
These figures are subject to change, but the current effects of the power are as follows:
- It launches a targetable projectile that travels more quickly than something like a HY Plasma.
- Upon impact with its target, it immediately drains -10 from all Subsystems (enhanced by the user's Flow Capacitors up to -15 @ 99 skill, and can be reduced by the target with Power Insulators skill)
- It also has a small chance to knock one Subsystem completely offline for up to 10sec at the point of impact. (duration cannot be improved with skill, but can be reduced with Subsystem Repair)
- Each second after the initial impact, it will drain an additional -2 energy from all Subsystems (again, up to -3 with Flow Cap, and reduced by the target's Power Insulators)
- It lasts a total of 15seconds, but can be removed at any time by using Engineering Team.
I love the ship as it is, but I have a few requests:
1: Custom interior. It doesn't seem right to transplant a Starfleet/Klingon interior on a Breen ship.
2: Breen Set bonus: It's a Breen ship. It makes sense that t'd respond well to Breen tech, and there's precedence (Dominion set with the last Christmas ship)
3: A small buff for having a Breen BOff slotted in one of the stations. Nothing too large, maybe a +2.5% Turn rate. Make it worth it to build it more canon. (You could also do this with the Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer and the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship, but with a different bonus).
There are no additional Breen starships being designed at this time, but we wanted to make the wording open enough to allow for the possibility at some point in the future.
Is there a plan to release a modified version of this ship to the Z-Store?
_______________ CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that? Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
so what about the immunity we gained after the dominion war? did we scrap the changes to make our ships survive it?
In the dominion war, 1 shot from this tended to completely disable all of a ship's sub-systems permenantly (or at least long enough for the ship to be destroyed). The reason that it doesn't do this is the improvement that ships now have.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
These figures are subject to change, but the current effects of the power are as follows:
- It launches a targetable projectile that travels more quickly than something like a HY Plasma.
- Upon impact with its target, it immediately drains -10 from all Subsystems (enhanced by the user's Flow Capacitors up to -15 @ 99 skill, and can be reduced by the target with Power Insulators skill)
- It also has a small chance to knock one Subsystem completely offline for up to 10sec at the point of impact. (duration cannot be improved with skill, but can be reduced with Subsystem Repair)
- Each second after the initial impact, it will drain an additional -2 energy from all Subsystems (again, up to -3 with Flow Cap, and reduced by the target's Power Insulators)
- It lasts a total of 15seconds, but can be removed at any time by using Engineering Team.
There are no additional Breen starships being designed at this time, but we wanted to make the wording open enough to allow for the possibility at some point in the future.
thanks for comming here and posting this! i approve, first of all its a target able projectile, and can be cleared at any time with ET. the drain sounds powerful, but not overly powerful. all and all a well done, not over the top ability imo, and fits with canon well. clearly ships arent blindside able as they were during the dominion war, but it still has an effect.
These figures are subject to change, but the current effects of the power are as follows:
- It launches a targetable projectile that travels more quickly than something like a HY Plasma.
- Upon impact with its target, it immediately drains -10 from all Subsystems (enhanced by the user's Flow Capacitors up to -15 @ 99 skill, and can be reduced by the target with Power Insulators skill)
- It also has a small chance to knock one Subsystem completely offline for up to 10sec at the point of impact. (duration cannot be improved with skill, but can be reduced with Subsystem Repair)
- Each second after the initial impact, it will drain an additional -2 energy from all Subsystems (again, up to -3 with Flow Cap, and reduced by the target's Power Insulators)
- It lasts a total of 15seconds, but can be removed at any time by using Engineering Team.
There are no additional Breen starships being designed at this time, but we wanted to make the wording open enough to allow for the possibility at some point in the future.
As someone who could get over 200 flow cap w/that build, please keep that in mind when scaling the drain. I can already think of nasty things w/tyken's&doffs, plas leech, energy siphon, and now this console.
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These figures are subject to change, but the current effects of the power are as follows:
- It launches a targetable projectile that travels more quickly than something like a HY Plasma.
- Upon impact with its target, it immediately drains -10 from all Subsystems (enhanced by the user's Flow Capacitors up to -15 @ 99 skill, and can be reduced by the target with Power Insulators skill)
- It also has a small chance to knock one Subsystem completely offline for up to 10sec at the point of impact. (duration cannot be improved with skill, but can be reduced with Subsystem Repair)
- Each second after the initial impact, it will drain an additional -2 energy from all Subsystems (again, up to -3 with Flow Cap, and reduced by the target's Power Insulators)
- It lasts a total of 15seconds, but can be removed at any time by using Engineering Team.
There are no additional Breen starships being designed at this time, but we wanted to make the wording open enough to allow for the possibility at some point in the future.
As someone who could get over 200 flow cap w/that build, please keep that in mind when scaling the drain. I can already think of nasty things w/tyken's&doffs, plas leech, energy siphon, and now this console.
Your post here and in the other thread has me rethinking the build I posted in yet another thread... as far as the KDF side.
Two Recluse - ASD's.
A Tyken Chel and a Grav Chel.
Some guy piloting any damn ship he wants...
2: Breen Set bonus: It's a Breen ship. It makes sense that t'd respond well to Breen tech, and there's precedence (Dominion set with the last Christmas ship)
Actually, the Breen Frozen set is made to fight against Breen ships, so it lacks the synergy.
the Jem'hadar set on the other hand gives a bonus to Dominion/Former Dominion allied ships, Bugship - Galor, of which the Breen were once apart of.
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As someone who could get over 200 flow cap w/that build, please keep that in mind when scaling the drain. I can already think of nasty things w/tyken's&doffs, plas leech, energy siphon, and now this console.
-10 energy at, presumably, 0 Flow Capacitors. -15 at 99 Flow Capacitors. At 200 Flow Capacitors, it seems like it would drain -20.
With 6 points in Power Insulators + MACO 2-set (total about 99, or 50% reduction in drain), we're looking at -10 again. Really not that big a deal on its own.
-10 energy at, presumably, 0 Flow Capacitors. -15 at 99 Flow Capacitors. At 200 Flow Capacitors, it seems like it would drain -20.
With 6 points in Power Insulators + MACO 2-set (total about 99, or 50% reduction in drain), we're looking at -10 again. Really not that big a deal on its own.
just another reason to stick with my 99 into insulator skill. never leave space dock without it!
I must say I'm a little disappointed... it's basically (yet another) ship with the MVAM layout, 'cept this has the turn of a snoozer and the survivability of an escort. A bit derp.
Ah well, free ship is a free ship... I just wish I could roll a Breen toon for maximum roleplayness!
I must say I'm a little disappointed... it's basically (yet another) ship with the MVAM layout, 'cept this has the turn of a snoozer and the survivability of an escort. A bit derp.
Ah well, free ship is a free ship... I just wish I could roll a Breen toon for maximum roleplayness!
Actually, it has the turn rate of the RSV. Not really sluggish at all, unlike an Assault Cruiser.
If you feel Keel'el's effect is well designed, please, for your own safety, be very careful around shallow pools of water.
Yes on the Destroyer front. I like how Cryptic has been throwing out nothing but hybrids these days. Unique builds abound!
Most Federation cruisers (and the Bortas) due to their poor turn rate, reliance on wide-arc low-spike damage output weaponry, and generally non-visceral playstyle. Not that being a healer can't be nerve wracking, exciting, and fulfilling, but most of the time Fed cruisers aren't all that zippy.
If you feel Keel'el's effect is well designed, please, for your own safety, be very careful around shallow pools of water.
Actually my beef is less with its "escorty" side and more with the fact that it's a snoozer-in-name-only. My instinct is that a ship with that impulse profile and turn rate can't support such an offensive BOff layout.
I'm not saying it's a terrible ship or anything, I just figure you won't be able to get as creative as you'd like.
It's Tac-heavy and out turns the Vetsa while having better shields than most escorts. Stick a VM1+Doff up there in the LTC slot w/ Ens Engineer for rotating... pretty much whatever you like (my money's on EPtA and EPtS with an RSP or Aux2Sif in the LT slot) and it ought to get by just peachy. Well, you can hope anyway. It's still out turning a Fleet Vor'cha.
4 DHC's, 4 turrets
CRF3, CRF2, APB1x2, TT1x2, EPTS1x2, A2SIF1, TSS1, ES1, ES2
Polaron weapons, Breen ship's console. Possibly the Breen set for the Breen Energy Siphon on top of it.
I'd run either the first or third build you recommend for PvE. NPCs don't resist tractors very well, and most of the really snazzy stuff is wasted or ineffective on NPCs imo, except in the more difficult scenarios (elite STFs, etc).
This Breen ship has some interesting possibilities. . .
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The Breen Chel Grett Warship comes with an Energy Dissipator console which fires a targetable Energy Dissipating Blast that causes significant subsystem drain and has a chance to knock a single subsystem offline for a short duration. The Energy Dissipator can be equipped in any console slot on any Breen ship.
The box that the ship comes in, which cannot be opened until the minimum rank listed above, is bound upon pickup.
I wonder what they mean when they say "significant" energy drain on all sub-systems, and it can be equiped on "any breen ship". are theres other i dont know about?
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And more shields and more hull lol
it has potential, an escort layout with 8 weapons but a very below escort turn rate. it wont quite be the good balance a kdf battle cruiser is of rugged endurance with enough tactical to hit really hard, its something else entirely, thats going to have to rely on sci instead. ships that are to spread out tend to not be that great at any one thing, or they can use 2 AtB and they are extreamly awesome, this is looking more like the former honestly, but it will certainly be a fun ship to play with once i get it.
i had a feeling a breen lockbox was next, and more breen are on the way. that means we can count on another cross faction carrier :mad:
after that lock box, im guessing gamma quadrant or strait up dominion lock box, with a gamma quadrant sector block finally
These figures are subject to change, but the current effects of the power are as follows:
- It launches a targetable projectile that travels more quickly than something like a HY Plasma.
- Upon impact with its target, it immediately drains -10 from all Subsystems (enhanced by the user's Flow Capacitors up to -15 @ 99 skill, and can be reduced by the target with Power Insulators skill)
- It also has a small chance to knock one Subsystem completely offline for up to 10sec at the point of impact. (duration cannot be improved with skill, but can be reduced with Subsystem Repair)
- Each second after the initial impact, it will drain an additional -2 energy from all Subsystems (again, up to -3 with Flow Cap, and reduced by the target's Power Insulators)
- It lasts a total of 15seconds, but can be removed at any time by using Engineering Team.
There are no additional Breen starships being designed at this time, but we wanted to make the wording open enough to allow for the possibility at some point in the future.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
Thanks for the Info.. what is the CD??
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so what about the immunity we gained after the dominion war? did we scrap the changes to make our ships survive it?
I love the ship as it is, but I have a few requests:
1: Custom interior. It doesn't seem right to transplant a Starfleet/Klingon interior on a Breen ship.
2: Breen Set bonus: It's a Breen ship. It makes sense that t'd respond well to Breen tech, and there's precedence (Dominion set with the last Christmas ship)
3: A small buff for having a Breen BOff slotted in one of the stations. Nothing too large, maybe a +2.5% Turn rate. Make it worth it to build it more canon. (You could also do this with the Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer and the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship, but with a different bonus).
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
I would say theres a good chance of that..
P.S. my Quote is better from the same person...
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In the dominion war, 1 shot from this tended to completely disable all of a ship's sub-systems permenantly (or at least long enough for the ship to be destroyed). The reason that it doesn't do this is the improvement that ships now have.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
thanks for comming here and posting this! i approve, first of all its a target able projectile, and can be cleared at any time with ET. the drain sounds powerful, but not overly powerful. all and all a well done, not over the top ability imo, and fits with canon well. clearly ships arent blindside able as they were during the dominion war, but it still has an effect.
As someone who could get over 200 flow cap w/that build, please keep that in mind when scaling the drain. I can already think of nasty things w/tyken's&doffs, plas leech, energy siphon, and now this console.
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Thanks for the clarification Bort
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Your post here and in the other thread has me rethinking the build I posted in yet another thread... as far as the KDF side.
Two Recluse - ASD's.
A Tyken Chel and a Grav Chel.
Some guy piloting any damn ship he wants...
Actually, the Breen Frozen set is made to fight against Breen ships, so it lacks the synergy.
the Jem'hadar set on the other hand gives a bonus to Dominion/Former Dominion allied ships, Bugship - Galor, of which the Breen were once apart of.
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With 6 points in Power Insulators + MACO 2-set (total about 99, or 50% reduction in drain), we're looking at -10 again. Really not that big a deal on its own.
you know, the breen ships should be added to the dominion set synergy list actually
just another reason to stick with my 99 into insulator skill. never leave space dock without it!
Ah well, free ship is a free ship... I just wish I could roll a Breen toon for maximum roleplayness!
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[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
And I still want my Lancipatorinator, Cryptic. Z-store please, there are actual pilots out there so take my money so I can 1 shot them.
/sarcasm off.
Seriously, thank you for making the Dissipator targetable.
CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
Norvo Tigan@dontdrunkimshoot: hell ya, maybe
Actually, it has the turn rate of the RSV. Not really sluggish at all, unlike an Assault Cruiser.
this ship will likely have half the turn rate a separated MVAM escort will have. and its a DHC using destroyer/escort, not a sci ship
Missed the "Can Load Cannons" part, but my comment was mostly directed at Shim for calling it another snoozer.
Yes on the Destroyer front. I like how Cryptic has been throwing out nothing but hybrids these days. Unique builds abound!
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Otherwise, Damn thats a hell of a ship, looks like I know where my antiproton gear is going after I plasrupter up my vesta.
Most Federation cruisers (and the Bortas) due to their poor turn rate, reliance on wide-arc low-spike damage output weaponry, and generally non-visceral playstyle. Not that being a healer can't be nerve wracking, exciting, and fulfilling, but most of the time Fed cruisers aren't all that zippy.
I'm not saying it's a terrible ship or anything, I just figure you won't be able to get as creative as you'd like.
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[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
Hmm... something like....
CMDR Tac: TT1 / CSV 1/ APO 1 / CRF 3
LT Tac: TT1 / DP:B1
LTC Sci: HE1 (PH1) / TSS 2 (HazEm 2) / VM1 (TSS3)
LT Eng: EPtS 1 / RSP 1
ENS Uni (Eng): EPtA 1
DOffs: 3 Purple Damage Control (EPtX Doffs), 2 Purple VM DOffs (or 1 VM DOff + 1 Warp Core Engineer)
YMMV.
I'd run either the first or third build you recommend for PvE. NPCs don't resist tractors very well, and most of the really snazzy stuff is wasted or ineffective on NPCs imo, except in the more difficult scenarios (elite STFs, etc).
This Breen ship has some interesting possibilities. . .