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dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2012 in PvP Gameplay
called it! http://sto.perfectworld.com/blog/?p=775821

Chel Grett cruiser, stats should be revealed soon id imagine, the event is live soon. you have 35 days to run 25 races to get it, or the tokens you get after the race can be gotten in very small quantities from the lobi store too. your used to grinding by now right pvp'ers? hope you have room for 1 more. :rolleyes:

my guess is it will have the same hitpoints and movement stats as the galor, but have a LTC sci and tac ens, with the universal LT. the NPC could use DHCs, so it will likely be DHC capable too. if its got these stats, i am excited. to bad it looks... like a breen ship though.
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  • cliftona91cliftona91 Member Posts: 254
    edited December 2012
    It looks ugly, but awesome at the same time
  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    A while back I said I was done squealing about the sky falling before things get released and I don't have enough information. But I'm done being done because it's easier to get worked up about the things I don't know about than the things I do and I'm tired of talking about trics.

    So quickly my friends, we only have 24 hours until the specs are posted, let's go crazy with rampant wild eyed frothing speculation about how this will end PvP forever!

    I bet it has a sub nuc console and it spawns Plesh Brek (maor liek Pwn Brek, amirite?) frigates that use Energy Siphon III and sub nuc! Now a Tac can sub nuc!

    It probably has a cryo cannon since nobody has cold resists in space. This is going to end PvP!

    Unique Console: Ice Lance
    8,412 cold damage (bypasses shields)
    2.5% chance to proc glass cutters on Vulcan female bridge officers wearing open shirts
    2.5% chance to proc tongue stuck to conn on Acting Ensigns
    This effect cannot be resisted


    Unique Console: Energy Dissipator
    Cone AoE, 90 degrees
    -400% energy drain resist
    2.5% chance to proc loss of will to queue against player characters
    This effect cannot be resisted.


    2 piece bonus:
    When firing the Unique Console: Ice Lance and Unique Console: Energy Dissipator simultaneously it produces a Lancipator Wave in addition to the effects of each piece.

    Lancipator Wave
    Removes all currently applied buffs
    Placates target for 30 seconds (not broken by damage)
    This effect cannot be resisted


    The sky has fallen folks, no you cannot has my stuff, this is awful, I'm sure the worst design ever I hate it it's brokenly OP why do they hate PvP don't they love us enough not to stick hot pokers in our eyes or really probably really really cold pokers cause it's a Breen ship after all and once a coordinated premade starts using this it will empty the queues...

    There, that's out of the way. Now let's theorize what kind of build we're going to run based on what boff layout we imagine it will have.

    Clearly I'm going to need to run Emergency Power to the Coffee Maker and grind for some long underwear with cold resists just so my butt doesn't stick to the captain's chair.
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  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Grrr, you beat me to it! I have to learn to type faster.
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  • paxottomanpaxottoman Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    lol.

    You forgot

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    Yeah who knows, I hope they fix they fix the stuff mentioned on this forum before they release more broken stuff. Bah who am I kidding... lol.
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  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I must say I'm legit curious because I don't see where they can possibly go with finding another snoozer layout. The Lt. Com. Sci seems obvious but a bit underwhelming.

    Maybe there'll be a console that works like an MIB neuralizer and causes you to forget that awful last season of DS9. Now that'd be baller.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Yea... It's a free ship... I seriously doubt it has a respectable level of competitive stats.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
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  • decker03decker03 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    anazonda wrote: »
    Yea... It's a free ship... I seriously doubt it has a respectable level of competitive stats.

    This. It's probably a downgraded version of the next lockbox ship, with different consoles on both of them that together provide some super pawn ability.

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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Don't think there will be a console on it, but...

    Hull: 33,500
    Shield: 1.35
    Weapons: 4 Fore/3 Aft
    Crew: 750
    Bridge Officers: Lt Tac, Lt Eng, Cmdr Sci, LCdr Uni, Ens Uni
    Device Slots: 4
    Consoles: 3 Tac, 3 Eng, 3 Sci, 1 Uni
    Turn Rate: 11
    Bonus Power: +5 Wep, +5 Shield, +10 Aux
    Abilities: Subsystem Targeting, Sensor Analysis

    So no console, eh? But they're going to 4/3 a Sci and add a Universal console slot?

    C'mon, tell me that wouldn't bring more complaints than just another console?
  • decker03decker03 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Don't think there will be a console on it, but...

    Hull: 33,500
    Shield: 1.35
    Weapons: 4 Fore/3 Aft
    Crew: 750
    Bridge Officers: Lt Tac, Lt Eng, Cmdr Sci, LCdr Uni, Ens Uni
    Device Slots: 4
    Consoles: 3 Tac, 3 Eng, 3 Sci, 1 Uni
    Turn Rate: 11
    Bonus Power: +5 Wep, +5 Shield, +10 Aux
    Abilities: Subsystem Targeting, Sensor Analysis

    So no console, eh? But they're going to 4/3 a Sci and add a Universal console slot?

    C'mon, tell me that wouldn't bring more complaints than just another console?

    With or without DHCs? :D

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  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Don't think there will be a console on it, but...

    Hull: 33,500
    Shield: 1.35
    Weapons: 4 Fore/3 Aft
    Crew: 750
    Bridge Officers: Lt Tac, Lt Eng, Cmdr Sci, LCdr Uni, Ens Uni
    Device Slots: 4
    Consoles: 3 Tac, 3 Eng, 3 Sci, 1 Uni
    Turn Rate: 11
    Bonus Power: +5 Wep, +5 Shield, +10 Aux
    Abilities: Subsystem Targeting, Sensor Analysis

    So no console, eh? But they're going to 4/3 a Sci and add a Universal console slot?

    C'mon, tell me that wouldn't bring more complaints than just another console?

    Nah, needs dual heavy cannons for that....
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  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    decker03 wrote: »
    With or without DHCs? :D

    Heh, didn't see your post until after making mine and the page refreshed.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    decker03 wrote: »
    With or without DHCs? :D

    Heh, no DHCs...but how about a special Lobi weapon secondary set, eh?

    Special Breen Polaron Beam, Special Breen Transphasic, and... oh snap, I guess there would be a console!

    With the various bonuses - running it with the Breen set - something for the folks to do while they're grinding their way to Rom/Omega Rep...

    ...I could see it.

    No console on the ship, but one available as part of a set coming to the Lobi store.

    Definitely better than it coming with one for stirring up the masses. :)
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    redricky wrote: »
    Grrr, you beat me to it! I have to learn to type faster.

    yours is getting more posts though :o
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Weird, this one didn't show for me... wonder if that's why the other one got more posts - this one didn't show for everybody.
  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Heh, no DHCs...but how about a special Lobi weapon secondary set, eh?

    Special Breen Polaron Beam, Special Breen Transphasic, and... oh snap, I guess there would be a console!

    With the various bonuses - running it with the Breen set - something for the folks to do while they're grinding their way to Rom/Omega Rep...

    ...I could see it.

    No console on the ship, but one available as part of a set coming to the Lobi store.

    Definitely better than it coming with one for stirring up the masses. :)

    ...And the breen just love their power drain abilities. How about this for a breen ship?

    Hull: 18,000
    Shield: 2.00
    Weapons: 3 Fore/3 Aft
    Crew: 250
    Bridge Officers: Commander Sci, Lt. Commander Sci, Lt. Commander Sci, Lt. Engineering, Ensign Tactical
    Device Slots: 3
    Consoles: 1 Tactical, 7 Science, 2 Engineering
    Turn Rate: 25
    Bonus Power: +50 Auxiliary power levels
    Abilities: Subsystem Targeting, Sensor Analysis, Breen Energy Dissipator

    Weapons:
    Can only be equip on the Chel Grett or any KFD carrier.

    360 degree Breen Polaron Beam Array Mk-D [Acc]x4 (D as in Drain) 500 DPV (250 DPS)
    To Target: 50% chance -15 power to all Subsystems for 5 minutes. Max Stack 10
    When firing other energy weapons:
    100% chance to apply Breen plasmonic leech
    To target: -10 all power levels for 180 seconds (No stack limit) (Modified by flow capacitors)
    To self: +10 all power levels for 180 seconds (No stack limit)
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Hrmmm, could see them introducing Polarized Phasers. 2.5% -Power & 2.5% Sub Disable...

    There you go!

    Polarized Phasers [Acc]x2
    2.5% -X All Current Power Levels
    2.5% Disable 1 Subsystem

    with...
    1.0% Omega Weapon Amplifier (Borg console + Kinetic Beam)
    2.5% Plasma Fire (Romulan Flow Cap [Pla])
    2.5% Kinetic Proc (Omega Rep Passive)
    Plasmonic Leech
    Tetryon Glider
  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    yours is getting more posts though :o

    Merged for great justice!
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  • dant158#3249 dant158 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    What's the most notable effect of those cruisers in pve?
    That's right, 180degree SNB.

    Any bets what the free power will be? :P
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    redricky wrote: »
    Merged for great justice!

    indeed! if this ship does have a console im guessing it will have something to do with debuffing energy. i liked that idea about rebufing energy drain resistance, maybe like the opposite effect of nadiaon immersion, for like 10 seconds or something. so someone firing their weapons will drain more energy when fireing, and energy draining will be more effective.

    i do have a feeling this will finally be the LTC sci cruiser. the odyssey didn't really count, it has an LT of tactical or sci as well. a COM and LT eng with a LTC sci will be very very nice for a cruiser
  • ivantomdisplayivantomdisplay Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    First we had miracle worker for science *temporal backstep*, now we will have SNB for all. :)
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  • hroothvitnirhroothvitnir Member Posts: 322
    edited December 2012
    Subnukes!, subnukes for everyone!

    Just passing them out.
  • scurry5scurry5 Member Posts: 1,554 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Hmm, I kinda doubt they'll go the full subnuke route. Maybe it'll just strip buffs without raising cooldown, or vice versa. I think it'll be like something which affects energy, and it'll probably act synergistically with the current Breen set. Could be something which affects transphasics, but that's a really low possibility. (Edit: No plans for set-ship synergy. Bummer.)

    On the other hand, I'm really looking forward to the bridge on this thing. Who knows? We could probably get the devs to make the Winter Event stuff fully capable on the Breen bridge if it's as cold as I think. (Edit: Forget it, they said it probably wouldn't have a unique bridge)
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Hmm.. Let's see..

    Weapons 3 fore/3 Aft

    Boff Seating: Ensign Tac, Lt Engi, LtC Sci, Cmd Universal, Lt Universal
    Consoles: 4 Sci, 3 Engi, 2 Tac
    1 hanger Bay (can equip Siphon Pods)
    Can Equip Cannons (Means DHC/DCs)
    +10 Aux, + 5 Shields
    Subsystem Targeting
    Turn Rate 10
    Hull 39,000
    Shields 1.5
    Crew: 700
    Special:
    Universal Console: Breen Neutralization Device: SNB but with a 5 minute cool down. (Can only be equipped on Breen ships) (Breen Cold shoulder set 1/3)

    Lobi Store lockbox Addons:
    Polarized Antiproton Weapons grab bag aka Christmas Present (Random)
    Chronoton Transphasic Torpedo (Rapid Fire torpedo with Chronoton Proc [CrtD] [Dmg]) (Breen Cold Shoulder set 2/3)
    Chronoton Transphasic Mine Launcher (Deploys Mines at the speed of Quantum Mines with Chronoton Proc [CrtD] [CrtH]) (Breen Cold Shoulder set 3/3)

    Breen Cold Shoulder:
    When activated up to 5 enemy targets out to 5km have their buffs removed and timers added to their powers on normal and global cooldowns.
    Also drains -10 power for 10 seconds from all affected targets subsystems and gives you +10 power for each subsystem drained for 10 seconds after 2 seconds. 5 Minute recharge. (HE counters the Drain, Sci team counters the cool down debuff)

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  • afree100afree100 Member Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I haven't really read anything in previous posts but with this http://www.stowiki.org/Chel_Grett_Cruiser as a reference it seems like this ship could qualify into crusier (name, NPC hit points tell pretty much nothing), science (abilities and torps are generally science (debatable I know), and the fact that breen are just science like), tactical (has dual cannons (just like NPC bug)). It is very likely that Cryptic will stick with what they previously have done with that ship (tactical and science), although they may make it a crusier since it may confuse people that it's named one.

    An escort with a science edge has not been made into a lock box version (Mobius kinda but not really universal is getting there + console slots) but the bug ship seems to be science with high turn rate and crew but not... arh sick of writing stuff that dosen't really matter

    Either a science-crusier or tactical-science. I am doubting which ship class it is going to be let alone console slots bridge officer stations etc.

    Edit: I am almost certain this ship won't have a hanger bay (common its copying Vesta enough) and its obviously going to have no sub nuc capabilities, cryptic is trying to improve PvP (just haven't put much effort in, although the next Reputation system is most likely going to be PvP (dev said so in TTS chat)) they are not going to release something like that esp on a free ship.

    Edit 2: Just a fun predition (well more like random thinking that may or may not break PvP more if implemented) ensign tac, lt tac, lt cmdr sci, lt cmdr eng, shield mod 1, 3fore, 3aft weapons, 3eng, 3sci, 3tac, turn rate of lets say 7-10, DHC capabilty, 10 to weapons 5 to aux (maybe not as much for weapons), 35000 hull.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Here's my thought: It will be a ship, of 9 consoles, maybe 10. It may or may not come with some special something. What might happen though is that they will release a better version (or another Breen ship), with a special something, or another special something with which will work well with the first special something on either ship.

    It would be cool though if the Breen set had an extra effect on the new ship, or possibly ships.

    Aside from that, meh...we'll see.
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  • adaephondelatadaephondelat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I don't think it will hold up with the elite ships in combat, I have something between a rear admiral and vice-admiral type ship in mind (comparable to mirror qin in tier). And since the feds are all wining over their cruisers, it will be a turning dhc cruiser like the vor'cha retrofit.

    Hull: 36000
    Shield: 1.1
    Weapons: 4 Fore/4 Aft
    Crew: 750
    Bridge Officers: Lt Tac, Ens Tac, Cmdr Eng, LCmdr Sci, Lt. Sci
    Device Slots: 4
    Consoles: 4 Tac, 3 Sci, 2 Eng
    Turn Rate: 10
    Bonus Power: +10 Shield, +5 Auxilliary
    Can load Cannons
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I don't think it will hold up with the elite ships in combat, I have something between a rear admiral and vice-admiral type ship in mind (comparable to mirror qin in tier). And since the feds are all wining over their cruisers, it will be a turning dhc cruiser like the vor'cha retrofit.

    It should be the Sci-Cruiser equivalent of the Bug! It should be another pest that people complain about for years to come!

    As for Feds and the DHC envy - you know the Andorian Battlecruiser's coming, right? That's what, Jan-Feb? Somewhere between the Winter Event and the 3rd Anniversary...
  • adaephondelatadaephondelat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    It should be the Sci-Cruiser equivalent of the Bug! It should be another pest that people complain about for years to come!

    As for Feds and the DHC envy - you know the Andorian Battlecruiser's coming, right? That's what, Jan-Feb? Somewhere between the Winter Event and the 3rd Anniversary...

    You're right with the Andorian BC, but i think it will be the Fed's equivalent to the Fleet Tor'kat .
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Here's my thought: It will be a ship, of 9 consoles, maybe 10. It may or may not come with some special something. What might happen though is that they will release a better version (or another Breen ship), with a special something, or another special something with which will work well with the first special something on either ship.

    It would be cool though if the Breen set had an extra effect on the new ship, or possibly ships.

    Aside from that, meh...we'll see.

    It's a free ship, so it won't have 10 consoles, won't have a removable special console, and won't have any universal BOFF stations. It also won't have a unique bridge.

    It'll be another tier 4 healer with maybe a sci surprise.

    hull 34000
    turn 8-10
    shield mod 1.2
    weapons 4/3
    devices 3
    consoles T/S/E 2/4/3
    Cmdr SCI, Lt. SCI, LtCdr ENG, Ens ENG, Lt. TAC,

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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    So the announcement will be around the usual time? Noon Pacific?
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