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  • aleaicaleaic Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Just did this two nights ago, first time out, on Elite. (No normal run version, prior.) Died only four times, didn't aggro far too much, but even still, had few problems, other than just dealing with the endurance of it all. Didn't het the optional, but meh, wasn't worried about that.

    Call all that, what you will. Course I was used to the other STF space elites, and did the Birg invasion alerts so much, I got the 'This Far, No Fatrher' title, so... call it, what you will. I kinda actually prefer this one, over CSE. No pressure to worry about an NPC dying, that is for sure.

    Plus, hearing the actual Borg Queen's voice... smexy. :p
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The Reward for beating this should be

    You NEVER see a borg again
    defeat them here and the Borg all over the cosmos should permanently (from your perspective) DIE
    not one more borg EVER

    then it would be worth dealing with
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  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Give Onslaught better rewards, it take way too much time and costs way too many resources to play. I only play it as a last resort for Marks. I do enjoy the regular, but there are even less rewards.
    Hi, my name is: Elim Garak, Former Cardassian Oppressor

    LTS, here since...when did this game launch again? :D
  • adorkabledoriadorkabledori Member Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I agree, the STF is insane right now. However, I only believe they should increase the reward, not make it easier.

    My reason for this is simple, the reputation rewards does make things easier. When everyone is buffed from getting to Tier 5, we might stand more of a chance. Then the increased reward will make sense - so those that have invested the time to get to Tier 5 will be able to more realistically go for the increased reward.

    Either that, or as you say, nerf the insane Borg :D

    Why should we wait till the Tier 5 ??? Getting directly to the point with my question : I have invested a great deal and rl money to get the highest available items (ships, shields, engines, hull, weapons, deflector, name it) in this game before Season 7 became online, to see it turned into useless materials. Do you think this is acceptable ? Before Season 7, I could easily take on the tactical cubes and go on till it was down, with the 2 fingers in the nose. Now it's more a hit and run, with the hope that those insane kills that borg have now. It's a pure rip off and that Mr. D. Stahl is becoming more and more the next Brian Shuster of the interweb : promising a lot, delivering nothing and stealing our money.
  • hroothvitnirhroothvitnir Member Posts: 322
    edited November 2012
    Its fine as is for the final borg space. I haven't lost a pug yet, and finished one short a player who rage quite after getting lanced every time he parking brake tanked a royal guard. So its quite passable with room temperature IQ and moderate builds and decent gear. Rather forgiving for the end all space encounter.

    I would have made it where she swapped range modes and utterly demolished anyone who wasn't in the proper spot when done transforming. Also dear god dont steal aggro off the tank or let it die as she would AOE torp spread with a bonus 20x damage. That would have been fun and made the pugs cry.

    Also the reward is performing with excellence on the hardest mission, farm something else play Onslaught to test your abilities, as much as it will. Pug PvP is still a grade or two higher than Onslaught.
  • xcom43xcom43 Member Posts: 723 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Agreed. Hive Space Elite is a very easy STF even with PUGs.


    lol it is easy as long as people and listen but most pug group charge in and don't think on what will happen.

    I have had some bad pug groups.

    Thing they need to do right now is fix the PVE Q.

    And some things on STF mostly it is not broken but some things do massive damage that should not do as much when a ship has a hull of 42,000 and they take away 90% of that in one shot.And plasma fire hits for about 10 to 15% of your hull unless you have a hazard 2 or 3 ready witch in most cases there not ready to use.I think the timer needs to be fixed on this one.
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  • obliquidensobliquidens Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    God I wish I knew where most of you losers defending this POS or 7 in general lived. If so I could come to you house and punch you right in your ******.
  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    God I wish I knew where most of you losers defending this POS or 7 in general lived. If so I could come to you house and punch you right in your ******.

    Your inability to adapt to this new STF and the new challenges it brings are not my problem.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Your inability to adapt to this new STF and the new challenges it brings are not my problem.

    Agreed on this.

    Not to mention, making threats like that is against the forum rules, I recommend you relax a moment, lest you get yourself a ban.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,014 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    This is how the borg should be, my suggestion would be give the borg those adaption abilities in space.

    I would love to see a pug's reaction, he/she has dropped the shields on a cube, lines up a torp run and see the words adapted. The borg should be like the nightmares of Wolf 359 and Sector 001.
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      -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
    • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited November 2012
      If you put it that way, I would love to see a 20 man version of this STF! Wolf 359 and Battle of Sector 001 FTW :D

      I think with the Steamrunner, we have all the ships for it!
      Hi, my name is: Elim Garak, Former Cardassian Oppressor

      LTS, here since...when did this game launch again? :D
    • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,014 Arc User
      edited November 2012
      Ihave the armitage which i can convert to the akira class
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        "The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
        -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
      • luxchristianluxchristian Member Posts: 0 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        xcom43 wrote: »
        lol it is easy as long as people and listen but most pug group charge in and don't think on what will happen.

        I have had some bad pug groups.

        Thing they need to do right now is fix the PVE Q.

        And some things on STF mostly it is not broken but some things do massive damage that should not do as much when a ship has a hull of 42,000 and they take away 90% of that in one shot.And plasma fire hits for about 10 to 15% of your hull unless you have a hazard 2 or 3 ready witch in most cases there not ready to use.I think the timer needs to be fixed on this one.

        Didn't DSthal said something liek that the "insane" spike damage will be reduced and the overall damage increased? No more oneshots but more reasons to have a healer/crosshealing and a tank with you :-)

        And just because there are some players who are just plain stupid or spoiled after the easy PVE content (storymissions xD) doesn't mean that the ESTF should be nerfed.

        The extra fast leveling and absolutely no challenge in the Storymissions means that the usual player is not prepared for the onslaught of an ESTF .

        AND when then the plasma dots do some real damage ... oh my xD
      • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        f2pdrakron wrote: »
        1) Its the VARIENT of the costume and at T5.
        2) No, the unlock is based on the accolade that is unchanged, Hive does not count.
        3) Its still the costume project, armor have the normal visuals so if anyone is wearing a Mk XII Omega Armor it will be the same as the Mk XII Omega costume, except it cannot be customized.

        I'm sorry but according to the description it specifies ALL elite optionals, and you would have no idea because you are not yet tier 5.
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      • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        Hive Space Elite is actually pretty easy... Here's some documentation that will help you in your quest for success:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_work
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      • thratch1thratch1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        I'm sorry but according to the description it specifies ALL elite optionals, and you would have no idea because you are not yet tier 5.

        There are no accolades associated with Hive optionals in the game.

        If there are no accolades, how can those costumes require them?

        EDIT:
        The accolade in question is "M.A.C.O. Team Commander" for Fed, or "Honor Guard Commander" for KDF, so you can check for yourself. It doesn't include Hive.
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      • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        thratch1 wrote: »
        There are no accolades associated with Hive optionals in the game.

        If there are no accolades, how can those costumes require them?

        EDIT:
        The accolade in question is "M.A.C.O. Team Commander" for Fed, or Honor Guard Commander for KDF, so you can check for yourself. It doesn't include Hive.

        The old accolade system is broken for STF's as I have completed all the old optionals yet it doesn't unlock the accolade associated for completing the two accolades that were needed in the past to give the costume unlock at its highest tier. persoanlly I think they haven't yet made the full changes to the old accolade with all the new season changes thus far.
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      • thratch1thratch1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        The old accolade system is broken for STF's as I have completed all the old optionals yet it doesn't unlock the accolade associated for completing the two accolades that were needed in the past to give the costume unlock at its highest tier. persoanlly I think they haven't yet made the full changes to the old accolade with all the new season changes thus far.

        Which specific accolades are you referring to that are broken?
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      • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        Accolades MACO elite commander(broken for me)says complete maco commando and team commander accolades(completed both) did not unlock maco elite commander accolade and has been bug reported without a response in over a month.

        OMEGA force shadow operative(broken for me)says complete omega force operative and either honor guard commander or maco team commander accolades(completed both) did not unlock omega force shadow operative accolade and has been bug reported without a response in over a month. Any more dumb questions.
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      • thratch1thratch1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        Any more dumb questions.

        Yes.

        Are you lying? Because your attitude suggests to me that you're lying to protect your ego. Otherwise, you wouldn't be saying things like "any more dumb questions" and being as aggressively defensive as you're being.

        You're the only person I've heard of that has claimed to have these broken accolades, so I think either you're lying, or you're mistaken about your completion of these accolades.

        If I'm wrong, then post a screenshot of your accolades and I'll concede that you have a genuine issue, at which point I'd suggest you go make a thread in the bug report forums (found here).

        If you want people to believe you when you've got a problem, try not acting like a jerk. You want people arguing on your side, and being rude and aggressive isn't going to win you any friends.
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      • oridjerraaoridjerraa Member Posts: 313 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        Just did Hive Onslaught Elite tonight with the optional. Other than being one shotted by a 500k v'ger torpedo it was easy enough to do the mission while mumble had a conversation going about something completely different while we were doing it(like 12 of us in the channel, we were too lazy to move to our stf channel).

        I ran an tac ody/engie...high threat, all the tankie skills ship. 2 copies of HE, 2 TT, 2TSS, and a very useful polarize hull(don't want to lose Defense bonus if you can help it)along with the usual epts/es/atsif3 yadda yadda. I kept the Borg off the dps for the most part and patched when they needed it.
      • maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        i HOPE to see more like this stf the harder they are the better, there is nothing wrong with it apart from the odd one shots from nowhere.

        PLS i beg you cryptic dont listen to noobs PLS DONT make this easier. the challenge is what makes it fun pls dont change it pls.
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      • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        The only real difficult in hive space is staying alive... Everytime I play it with may fleet, i am successfull in all the optional and finish it in about 20-25 minutes...
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      • whyomewhyome Member Posts: 19 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        wow you team must of been bad, ran it a few times the other night and didn't have a problem till the queen shes a littel op but a good team can over come that problem.
      • neos472neos472 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
        edited November 2012
        beat Hive onslaught elite last night and if you and everyone else knows what to do it goes along quite well you just have to be on your toes a bit always waiting for the giant torps or the queens debuff following up with a torp spread.the unimatrixes and queen are hard for sure and you WILL die at least once teamwork can take care of them. and we did it with 3 crusiers and 2 vestas nuthun real DPS oriented but we wore em down and that is what counts.
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      • lemeralemera Member Posts: 2 Arc User
        edited December 2012
        Now, Into the Hive Ground Elite is another story, way too hard, they need to nurf it, and make the electro platforms also kill the borg that are on the square.

        I second this, the floor should also do borg damage, there is just way to much to think about with the ground mission, borg, floor, bombardment, queen...rince and repeat numerous times!, tbh iv played all elite missions and the hive ground is the only one i can not complete, even with a really good team, its just way to hard and has to much to think about at any one time. nerf it or bin it!!!
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