Dammit I don't mind seeing a fairly exposed woman. As a man, I'm rather favorable to it.
But the more I look at the frontpage the more I realise how bad the drawing actually is. I apologise if that was someone's side project being done in their free time, but it just looks bad. Even using the Vulcan from the magazine frontpage would look better.
Please get some quality picture or just keep the "phaser guy". (You could also try to show there's a second faction somewhere.)
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
As some have noticed, Season 7 going live was commemorated with a new piece of artwork starring New Romulus, some Tholians getting the first hits on hero ships, and a vulcan woman dressed up in pieces of the Odyssey uniform you can buy from the Tailor in Fleet Starbases (with the academy skirt and high-heel boots).
So, congrats on the launch of Season 7. And kudos on the art - I know it's a mixed bag with people, but I like it.
However, I have a couple of questions!
1) I bought the Open Jacket uniforms from the C-Store. How long until we get an open jacket version of the Odyssey uniform? ~_^
2) As I am slightly colorblind, I'd be interested in artists providing an idea of how to have the Odyssey uniform in-game customized to match the colors shown on the Pretty Phaser Lady - there are official colors for the Sierra and Jupiter uniforms... but nothing was hinted at until now for the Odyssey uniforms (y'know, like "Tunic A9, F17, H2" or something).
Well i haven't posted in a while, but seeing the new season 7 frontpage has given me a reason to do so.
I cannot believe how absurdly bad she looks. I don't normally have an issue with revealing outfits or uniforms. But this is just gratuitous and cheap.
She is a captain in starfleet, yet can't seem to pay attention to where she is aiming her phaser, the cleavage is tastelessly right above the download button, and she is falling over, apparently because she is too top heavy, or maybe because she is too empty headed to walk and shoot phasers at the same time.
You want a vulcan chick in a revealing outfit? Fine. But for the love of Trek, make it tasteful! Make her look competent! Make her look like she actually earned her command through hard work and accomplishments, not by being on assignment under Quinn's desk!
She could have been pointing the phaser at us, held in both hands with a look on her face that says she means business, and in that pose, her TRIBBLE would have had plenty of reason to be pressed together.
Or perhaps she could have been sitting in a chair looking stressed and a bit tired at a mountain of reports to explain her dressing down. Its the kind of scene that says here is a competent, attractive woman trying to fix these problems, but there's just too much for one person.
So honestly, give us something better. You can dress her however you want, but make her look like she isn't a bimbo tripping over her own feet about to complain about breaking a nail, because the caption for that picture screams, "Like OMG, I dropped my phaser!"
If it is not clear from my new Avatar and Sig.
I am not a fan of the new artwork.
Three professional artist friends looked at this.
2 outright laughed.
Their comments :
(1) Is she running or falling ?
(2) Not looking where firing her gun
(3) Overall 'Cheesecake' fanservice look to the artwork.
(4) Bad choice for a company trying to appeal to a broad array of fans.
(5) So, you're playing Evony Online now ?
and my favorite
(6) One look at that front page, and I would close the site, and never look back.
I think I am gonna go commission a new human Tactical Boff and name him Handsome Phaser Guy.
Kinda strange to see it make a come back considering we weren't allowed to have it cut that low. Maybe PWE doesn't care about the ERSB and we could see this added to the Lobi store to squeeze a few more pennies from the player base.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
I've followed hippiejon's example and put Handsom Phaser Guy in my signature. I encourage you all to do the same if you'd like to see him return.
Hello.
I am HippieJohn, and I approve this message.
I know this is strange.
I should be upset about the Dilithium Nerfs or what have you.
But I just can't bring myself to care.
Not really.
But this, this is the thing I wind up caring about.
Well i haven't posted in a while, but seeing the new season 7 frontpage has given me a reason to do so.
I cannot believe how absurdly bad she looks. I don't normally have an issue with revealing outfits or uniforms. But this is just gratuitous and cheap.
She is a captain in starfleet, yet can't seem to pay attention to where she is aiming her phaser, the cleavage is tastelessly right above the download button, and she is falling over, apparently because she is too top heavy, or maybe because she is too empty headed to walk and shoot phasers at the same time.
You want a vulcan chick in a revealing outfit? Fine. But for the love of Trek, make it tasteful! Make her look competent! Make her look like she actually earned her command through hard work and accomplishments, not by being on assignment under Quinn's desk!
She could have been pointing the phaser at us, held in both hands with a look on her face that says she means business, and in that pose, her TRIBBLE would have had plenty of reason to be pressed together.
Or perhaps she could have been sitting in a chair looking stressed and a bit tired at a mountain of reports to explain her dressing down. Its the kind of scene that says here is a competent, attractive woman trying to fix these problems, but there's just too much for one person.
So honestly, give us something better. You can dress her however you want, but make her look like she isn't a bimbo tripping over her own feet about to complain about breaking a nail, because the caption for that picture screams, "Like OMG, I dropped my phaser!"
If anyone wants to respond, please post pictures of the sexy ladies of Star Trek, done RIGHT!
This linked image insults me directly, not just as a straight heterosexual male but as a human being. As someone who has love and adoration for all the sexy ladies of Star Trek, the vast majority of whom were portrayed in a sensual yet respectful light (considering the PG-rated viewers at the time).
Lets ignore everything after ST:Voyager for the time being since that has been said to take place in a parallel universe or whatever they wanted to pull.
This goes out to both Cryptic and PWE. Who is your audience for STO? Who?
The answer: EVERYONE. You want and need as much money from as many players as possible, of BOTH genders. There is ZERO reason to EVER TRIBBLE off HALF (or more) of your current (and potential) playerbase with **** like this!
Cut dat **** out PWE. Cut the male-gaze pandering. Cut the stupid pseudo-elven females with plunging necklines. Cut it out, now. You don't need it. You need to be the ONE mmo that females can join in and feel a part of the community instead of joining a 'mens club' like almost every other MMO has been. Cryptic did it with City of Heroes so time to keep up the reputation.
Cryptic. I don't care if you're owned by PWE. At least SOME of you have to be offended by this and voice that loudly to PWE or they won't care. PWE are Chinese Ferengi, so treat them appropriately when dealing with them.
Star Trek has had sexy ladies across the series, but this artwork isn't done tastefully or even lore-accurate (what race is she? Vulcan? Romulan?). It is poorly shoddily-made craptastic 'artwork'.
I guarantee there are hundreds of starving artists on several art-focused communities across the entire internet who will bend over backwards to make you FREE artwork for your promotions that is sexy and WAY better than this ****. All you have to do is make it a contest, maybe throw in some free ZEN and guaranteed credit/recognition within the game credits and website. That's it.
Not this ****. Do NOT **** this up PWE, damn Chinese Ferengi. >_>
Or you'll find we're more than happy to take all your GPL and shove it down your frontal lobes.
Lets ignore everything after ST:Voyager for the time being since that has been said to take place in a parallel universe or whatever they wanted to pull.
wat
So, I assume you're super angry over the Orion women, then? The ones with the lack of clothing, the pheromones, the loincloths?
EDIT: Cryptic must be following Rules #30 and #41. lol
Its a blatant continuation of the terrible tradition started by Evony. Why should it have even come to this.
We can choose not to BUY the open jacket option. We however, cannot choose what image is promoted on other websites. And with the OP, I hate the message this is sending out!
I know Gene was just another tv producer who made good, but ever since TNG, I've always wanted to believe Star Trek represented something more grown-up.
This is a step backwards. Not just for us female enthusiasts, but for every one who wear the uniform, or fight with Klingon honor!
Change it back! Phaser Dude was so much better than this!!
I guess the naysayers were right. Star Trek is dead.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Captain Ruri Gokou of the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk
Catian Atrox Carrier
I have to agree with you here. This is offensive and distasteful. At LEAST give her a proper military uniform, not this "sexelf" costume.
This, times 10.
I have NO problem with 'sexy' when it is done PROPERLY and LORE-APPROPRIATE (or at least justified somehow).
Seven of Nine, a blatant overtly sexual symbol and a 'Liberated Borg' but she had PERSONALITY that made her MORE than just a sexual object.
Deanna Troi, ship's counselor and a really fantastic 'MILF' in many ways, but she had PERSONALITY that made her MORE than just a sexual object.
Need I go on?
The woman in the picture offends me because (knowing what little I know about art) the posing and emphasis in the picture tends to draw 'male gaze' toward her mammary glands. This hurts me as a male and a human being because I'm not some horny teenage **** virgin who goes 'OOO BOOBIES' every other minute. I did that back TEN YEARS AGO.
Game advertisers/marketers still haven't grown up, have they?
Also more importantly, my informal survey of dozens of ESD residents has the population estimated at well over half FEMALE. I'm sure they don't appreciate the emphasis being poorly attributed to T&A.
And FINALLY, Star Trek has NEVER been about sex appeal ALONE. Part of Star Trek has often been about exploration of our humanity and what it means for us as a species. Advancing beyond our base and crude instinctual needs.
This? This 'artwork'? Its ****. It is poorly drawn, offends almost everyone who isn't a virgin, and it reflects poorly on STO as a whole.
Hey PWE, fire the marketer/promoter of that image and hire me instead. I'll get you 1000x the quality at less than half the cost. How can even a Chinese Ferengi say no to that? ^_^
December 20th, 1987. Phantasy Star 1 for the Sega Master System (an 8-bit console) was released in Japan and featured a 15 year old female as the main protagonist that you controlled directly as your avatar in the game. Absolutely ZERO of the marketing or artwork was done to emphasis or show off her female attributes.
That's the face of a woman who wants to get the emotions Pon Farr'd out of her... Hard. That does seem like it would be inappropriate for star trek to have a vulcun looking to make "
first contact" with her TRIBBLE on display.
As much as i like the female form this does seem a bit sexist as well as inappropriate for the main page. to make it worse though it perfectly fits cryptics image of what the players must look like since they seem so intent to "let us have it" for lack of a more forum appropriate term.
What bothers me more than the image is that PWE believes this is what the male players want. They're ignoring at least half their playerbase and playing a dangerous game by doing so.
Comments
But the more I look at the frontpage the more I realise how bad the drawing actually is. I apologise if that was someone's side project being done in their free time, but it just looks bad. Even using the Vulcan from the magazine frontpage would look better.
Please get some quality picture or just keep the "phaser guy". (You could also try to show there's a second faction somewhere.)
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
How do we know it's NOT mirror universe?
Let us upgrade the Seleya Ceremonial Lirpa and Kri'stak Blade
I agree all the politically correct ranting makes me lol.
The only thing really wrong is all the "blue" on the front page now - blech!
Do we ever stand a chance of getting her as a contact (or date)?
Play my foundry mission "Vulcan Love Slave #9" please. (when the foundry comes back).
Excellent piece of art.
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Wait! There's a Klingon faction too!!!
So, congrats on the launch of Season 7. And kudos on the art - I know it's a mixed bag with people, but I like it.
However, I have a couple of questions!
1) I bought the Open Jacket uniforms from the C-Store. How long until we get an open jacket version of the Odyssey uniform? ~_^
2) As I am slightly colorblind, I'd be interested in artists providing an idea of how to have the Odyssey uniform in-game customized to match the colors shown on the Pretty Phaser Lady - there are official colors for the Sierra and Jupiter uniforms... but nothing was hinted at until now for the Odyssey uniforms (y'know, like "Tunic A9, F17, H2" or something).
I cannot believe how absurdly bad she looks. I don't normally have an issue with revealing outfits or uniforms. But this is just gratuitous and cheap.
She is a captain in starfleet, yet can't seem to pay attention to where she is aiming her phaser, the cleavage is tastelessly right above the download button, and she is falling over, apparently because she is too top heavy, or maybe because she is too empty headed to walk and shoot phasers at the same time.
You want a vulcan chick in a revealing outfit? Fine. But for the love of Trek, make it tasteful! Make her look competent! Make her look like she actually earned her command through hard work and accomplishments, not by being on assignment under Quinn's desk!
She could have been pointing the phaser at us, held in both hands with a look on her face that says she means business, and in that pose, her TRIBBLE would have had plenty of reason to be pressed together.
Or perhaps she could have been sitting in a chair looking stressed and a bit tired at a mountain of reports to explain her dressing down. Its the kind of scene that says here is a competent, attractive woman trying to fix these problems, but there's just too much for one person.
So honestly, give us something better. You can dress her however you want, but make her look like she isn't a bimbo tripping over her own feet about to complain about breaking a nail, because the caption for that picture screams, "Like OMG, I dropped my phaser!"
My thoughts precisely.
Scarily similar.
As for others tripping over comments
http://sto.perfectworld.com/wordpress/service/img.php?postid=747111&type=redesign
She's running and in mid stride.
I too would also find it hard to run one way whilst firing in another direction.
Though I have to admit, Trek Fed uniforms are typically more conservative. Although it does convey what the game allows you to dress like...
I am not a fan of the new artwork.
Three professional artist friends looked at this.
2 outright laughed.
Their comments :
(1) Is she running or falling ?
(2) Not looking where firing her gun
(3) Overall 'Cheesecake' fanservice look to the artwork.
(4) Bad choice for a company trying to appeal to a broad array of fans.
(5) So, you're playing Evony Online now ?
and my favorite
(6) One look at that front page, and I would close the site, and never look back.
I think I am gonna go commission a new human Tactical Boff and name him Handsome Phaser Guy.
http://sto.perfectworld.com/
It looks like it the return of the PC Gamer open vest uniform.
http://gamerinvestments.com/video-game-stocks/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/star-trek-onine-gold-edition-contents.jpg
Kinda strange to see it make a come back considering we weren't allowed to have it cut that low. Maybe PWE doesn't care about the ERSB and we could see this added to the Lobi store to squeeze a few more pennies from the player base.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Hello.
I am HippieJohn, and I approve this message.
I know this is strange.
I should be upset about the Dilithium Nerfs or what have you.
But I just can't bring myself to care.
Not really.
But this, this is the thing I wind up caring about.
That is the most overtly suggestive, poorly thought out part of the whole thing.
I wonder how long it would have been around if somebody had made it for their signature ??
Treat her with the same standard as the former was...
If anyone wants to respond, please post pictures of the sexy ladies of Star Trek, done RIGHT!
This linked image insults me directly, not just as a straight heterosexual male but as a human being. As someone who has love and adoration for all the sexy ladies of Star Trek, the vast majority of whom were portrayed in a sensual yet respectful light (considering the PG-rated viewers at the time).
Lets ignore everything after ST:Voyager for the time being since that has been said to take place in a parallel universe or whatever they wanted to pull.
This goes out to both Cryptic and PWE. Who is your audience for STO? Who?
The answer: EVERYONE. You want and need as much money from as many players as possible, of BOTH genders. There is ZERO reason to EVER TRIBBLE off HALF (or more) of your current (and potential) playerbase with **** like this!
Cut dat **** out PWE. Cut the male-gaze pandering. Cut the stupid pseudo-elven females with plunging necklines. Cut it out, now. You don't need it. You need to be the ONE mmo that females can join in and feel a part of the community instead of joining a 'mens club' like almost every other MMO has been. Cryptic did it with City of Heroes so time to keep up the reputation.
Cryptic. I don't care if you're owned by PWE. At least SOME of you have to be offended by this and voice that loudly to PWE or they won't care. PWE are Chinese Ferengi, so treat them appropriately when dealing with them.
Star Trek has had sexy ladies across the series, but this artwork isn't done tastefully or even lore-accurate (what race is she? Vulcan? Romulan?). It is poorly shoddily-made craptastic 'artwork'.
I guarantee there are hundreds of starving artists on several art-focused communities across the entire internet who will bend over backwards to make you FREE artwork for your promotions that is sexy and WAY better than this ****. All you have to do is make it a contest, maybe throw in some free ZEN and guaranteed credit/recognition within the game credits and website. That's it.
Not this ****. Do NOT **** this up PWE, damn Chinese Ferengi. >_>
Or you'll find we're more than happy to take all your GPL and shove it down your frontal lobes.
Why Season 7 is better than you realize
Raise Refining Cap for Gold/Lifetime!
.... searches for the Vulcan Love Slave holonovel ...
wat
So, I assume you're super angry over the Orion women, then? The ones with the lack of clothing, the pheromones, the loincloths?
EDIT: Cryptic must be following Rules #30 and #41. lol
We can choose not to BUY the open jacket option. We however, cannot choose what image is promoted on other websites. And with the OP, I hate the message this is sending out!
I know Gene was just another tv producer who made good, but ever since TNG, I've always wanted to believe Star Trek represented something more grown-up.
This is a step backwards. Not just for us female enthusiasts, but for every one who wear the uniform, or fight with Klingon honor!
Change it back! Phaser Dude was so much better than this!!
I guess the naysayers were right. Star Trek is dead.
Captain Ruri Gokou of the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk
Catian Atrox Carrier
This, times 10.
I have NO problem with 'sexy' when it is done PROPERLY and LORE-APPROPRIATE (or at least justified somehow).
Seven of Nine, a blatant overtly sexual symbol and a 'Liberated Borg' but she had PERSONALITY that made her MORE than just a sexual object.
Deanna Troi, ship's counselor and a really fantastic 'MILF' in many ways, but she had PERSONALITY that made her MORE than just a sexual object.
Need I go on?
The woman in the picture offends me because (knowing what little I know about art) the posing and emphasis in the picture tends to draw 'male gaze' toward her mammary glands. This hurts me as a male and a human being because I'm not some horny teenage **** virgin who goes 'OOO BOOBIES' every other minute. I did that back TEN YEARS AGO.
Game advertisers/marketers still haven't grown up, have they?
Also more importantly, my informal survey of dozens of ESD residents has the population estimated at well over half FEMALE. I'm sure they don't appreciate the emphasis being poorly attributed to T&A.
And FINALLY, Star Trek has NEVER been about sex appeal ALONE. Part of Star Trek has often been about exploration of our humanity and what it means for us as a species. Advancing beyond our base and crude instinctual needs.
This? This 'artwork'? Its ****. It is poorly drawn, offends almost everyone who isn't a virgin, and it reflects poorly on STO as a whole.
Hey PWE, fire the marketer/promoter of that image and hire me instead. I'll get you 1000x the quality at less than half the cost. How can even a Chinese Ferengi say no to that? ^_^
December 20th, 1987. Phantasy Star 1 for the Sega Master System (an 8-bit console) was released in Japan and featured a 15 year old female as the main protagonist that you controlled directly as your avatar in the game. Absolutely ZERO of the marketing or artwork was done to emphasis or show off her female attributes.
November 13, 2012. So much progress, right? :P
Why Season 7 is better than you realize
Raise Refining Cap for Gold/Lifetime!
first contact" with her TRIBBLE on display.
As much as i like the female form this does seem a bit sexist as well as inappropriate for the main page. to make it worse though it perfectly fits cryptics image of what the players must look like since they seem so intent to "let us have it" for lack of a more forum appropriate term.
Why Season 7 is better than you realize
Raise Refining Cap for Gold/Lifetime!