Well the devs have posted in other forum topics which lead one to believe this was a deliberated removal of reward from the stf's. Does any one know if the red alerts are still rewarding dilithium? If so then litteraly there is no reason to run normal stf's, and people will run just enough elites for the BNP one needs for the gear they want.
You want to know if it's intended or not, then it's best to try it out on Tribble, if it's the same as it is here, then it is intended, if not, it's a bug. It's easy
It would be, "This isn't what you told us when we were on Tribble."
We really have no reason to think it's intentional at this point.
My advice is to start filing bug tickets.
You seem to be quite supportive of Cryptic - but honestly what response would YOU give if they say "it's the New Working as Intended- end of discussion"?
I know it will be rather polite: "I think this is not the best move" - but I want to see some of that Gorn rage come out!!!:P:eek::D:cool:
I hope this is a bug. Thing is though, if this is a bug.....why wasn't it caught? Why have a test server if the bugs aren't fixed before it goes live? Of coarse, that's always been the story so it doesn't surprise me if it is a bug.
If its not a bug....well, cryptic just sucks then. I'm just going to pull my gold sub and give it back to WG for World of Tanks then. Even though I only play that game a hour or so a week and don't grind it anymore, its worth it because the company doesn't sh*t all over its customers.:mad:
Um, it's been discussed over in the Tribble section of the forums for a wee while now.
Last I heard (last week) the STF awards stood at 480/960 per normal/elite .
Are people not aware that Tribble and Redshirt exist?
Yup , that's why my patch was @ 12 + something MB's . for the most part , and took about 5 minutes .
But please don't presume that ALL players visit the Tribble forums , TTS , Twitter , et-al .
'Cause they just don't .
and don't make this a bug that takes 6 months to be fixed. This bug is BS and needs to be fixed TOMORROW.
Making money is one thing, but all this is going to do is make even more players leave because you've removed the #1 way most players make their dilithum. this is NOT going to make you money, it's going to lose you money.
That was not really an answer - I ask what you would say "if" their response - firm and clear was this is "working as Intended"
So you mentioned something about a Rampage? Was that your real response?
While I appreciate the baiting , I'm not ready to take the bait .
Let's just say that I have a wide range of options from forum raging to coming back at Season 8 to sending CBS a still sealed copy of the game along with a "thank you" note .
And that prevents someone from Cryptic telling us that how?
They could be busy FIXING IT, or they have no info on what's causing it perhaps, we won't know until they tell us, and they won't know until they find the problem. There's a possible scenario for you
While I appreciate the baiting , I'm not ready to take the bait .
Let's just say that I have a wide range of options from forum raging to coming back at Season 8 to sending CBS a still sealed copy of the game along with a "thank you" note .
They could be busy FIXING IT, or they have no info on what's causing it perhaps, we won't know until they tell us, and they won't know until they find the problem. There's a possible scenario for you
It takes a single person to tell us, and that person would probably not be involved in fixing this if it is indeed a bug. If they do not know what is causing the problem, they could tell us that.
It takes a single person to tell us, and that person would probably not be involved in fixing this if it is indeed a bug. If they do not know what is causing the problem, they could tell us that.
But they tell us nothing.
They have to find the problem before they can tell us what it is, it's probably an "all hands on deck" situation
They have to find the problem before they can tell us what it is, it's probably an "all hands on deck" situation
Then they can communicate that there is a problem. That is what we want to know. Is this intentional or is this a bug? If it is a bug, we do not need to know why and what the bug is. That is not our concern. We just need to know if it is a bug.
They have to find the problem before they can tell us what it is, it's probably an "all hands on deck" situation
I disagree with you completely - Brandon is extremely dedicated to his job and is working the forums at all hours and on weekends - unpaid time most likely.
He is always quick to say something - even to make an comment in the smallest detail possible - it it is just a "bug"
the only way there is silence is when something IS "working as Intended" and they are deciding what to do - or just waiting and seeing before deciding what to do.
Chances are it is likely -NOT- a bug. I tested STF's daily all last week on tribble and roughly a day after it was "reduced" it was taken back out to zero again.
It's been mentioned, no one cared to respond when I told people before, so it's likely going to be an as is adjustment. They don't want people getting dilithium via STF's anymore. As such, STF's will likely die out within a month.
They have to find the problem before they can tell us what it is, it's probably an "all hands on deck" situation
Usually they don't tell us what the problem is. They just have BranFlakes or someone tell us that "it is a bug, and it is being investigated. Thank you for your patience as we attempt to resolve the issue."
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It would be, "This isn't what you told us when we were on Tribble."
We really have no reason to think it's intentional at this point.
My advice is to start filing bug tickets.
You seem to be quite supportive of Cryptic - but honestly what response would YOU give if they say "it's the New Working as Intended- end of discussion"?
I know it will be rather polite: "I think this is not the best move" - but I want to see some of that Gorn rage come out!!!:P:eek::D:cool:
If its not a bug....well, cryptic just sucks then. I'm just going to pull my gold sub and give it back to WG for World of Tanks then. Even though I only play that game a hour or so a week and don't grind it anymore, its worth it because the company doesn't sh*t all over its customers.:mad:
Don't get me started on how long it took to patch. I'm on a 35mb connection and the patch took nearly 2.5 hours to download.
BHE - starts out with 5 players having to take on 5 tac cubes and a about 10 spheres. All at once.
Everyone dies at least twice.
blow those up and there are two "unimatrix" style borg ships to destroy (like the red alert borg ship), THEN you get to take on borg queen octohedren.
All that and no dil for completion. One MKXI uncommon drop for everyone to need or greed on. And ONE F***ing BNP. It takes 5 just to get 1k Dil.
I think it's official. Cryptic does *not* care about your gameplay experience. They just care about what $$$ you can contribute to their bottom line.
Sigh. Anyone else missing the days of Q2DM right now? I know I am...
Swings and roundabouts.
Last I heard (last week) the STF awards stood at 480/960 per normal/elite .
Yup , that's why my patch was @ 12 + something MB's . for the most part , and took about 5 minutes .
But please don't presume that ALL players visit the Tribble forums , TTS , Twitter , et-al .
'Cause they just don't .
So far I've decided on a "wait and see" 'tude .
I usually go for the rampage , but 5 Seasons full of botched startups taught me to be patient .
Please stop "advertising" FA's any/everywhere . They have zero relevance to this thread .
That was not really an answer - I ask what you would say "if" their response - firm and clear was this is "working as Intended"
So you mentioned something about a Rampage? Was that your real response?
But your own dev blog here: http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=726221 states that STFs still reward dilithum. Then how come were not getting any?
and don't make this a bug that takes 6 months to be fixed. This bug is BS and needs to be fixed TOMORROW.
Making money is one thing, but all this is going to do is make even more players leave because you've removed the #1 way most players make their dilithum. this is NOT going to make you money, it's going to lose you money.
While I appreciate the baiting , I'm not ready to take the bait .
Let's just say that I have a wide range of options from forum raging to coming back at Season 8 to sending CBS a still sealed copy of the game along with a "thank you" note .
So its run 5 STF's get 1000 Dil for each.
If it's a bug they could be trying to fix it
Unfortunately dstahl et al. flat out lying to players isn't without precedent.
Omega conversions and equivalent purchasing power anyone?
And that prevents someone from Cryptic telling us that how?
They could be busy FIXING IT, or they have no info on what's causing it perhaps, we won't know until they tell us, and they won't know until they find the problem. There's a possible scenario for you
Maybe Branflakes is taking a nap .
Well it could happen !
We're only at page 9 in this remarkably restrained and coherent thread ... .
I appreciate your responses:P:eek::D
This will be an interesting next 48 hrs:)
It takes a single person to tell us, and that person would probably not be involved in fixing this if it is indeed a bug. If they do not know what is causing the problem, they could tell us that.
But they tell us nothing.
They have to find the problem before they can tell us what it is, it's probably an "all hands on deck" situation
Then they can communicate that there is a problem. That is what we want to know. Is this intentional or is this a bug? If it is a bug, we do not need to know why and what the bug is. That is not our concern. We just need to know if it is a bug.
lol, I love the naivety:P.
Even if they didn't what caused it or why, a quick note to say that it is *actually* a bug would be the very best thing to do.
But they seem incapable of a 10 word post.
#2311#2700#2316#2500
Must .. restrain ... sarcastic .. answer ... so ... many ... bad ... things ... to say ... !
Sigh ... , that was hard !! :P
I disagree with you completely - Brandon is extremely dedicated to his job and is working the forums at all hours and on weekends - unpaid time most likely.
He is always quick to say something - even to make an comment in the smallest detail possible - it it is just a "bug"
the only way there is silence is when something IS "working as Intended" and they are deciding what to do - or just waiting and seeing before deciding what to do.
It's been mentioned, no one cared to respond when I told people before, so it's likely going to be an as is adjustment. They don't want people getting dilithium via STF's anymore. As such, STF's will likely die out within a month.
Usually they don't tell us what the problem is. They just have BranFlakes or someone tell us that "it is a bug, and it is being investigated. Thank you for your patience as we attempt to resolve the issue."