test content
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc

One important question for the devs.

kjbiedermankjbiederman Member Posts: 10 Arc User
Will there ever be territorial control mechanics in this game. A yes or no answer is all I need. No need to give a timeframe just yes or no.

Thank you,
Post edited by kjbiederman on
«1

Comments

  • cptjhuntercptjhunter Member Posts: 2,288 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'm not a dev. But, I'm sure from what I've seen and heard from this forum for a year now, I can field an answer for the question....NO.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    They have answered this several times already: Maybe.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • thomas12255thomas12255 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The whole game was meant to be about this back in 2008 but most of that stuff was bull**** and never made it into the game.

    It's not going to happen sadly. But I'm sure a fully fleshed out KDF faction is just around the corner!
    [SIGPIC]http://stosignatures.ufplanets.com/Thomas45-STO.png[/SIGPIC]

    {UFP}Thomas45 - Thomas Nixon U.S.S. Majesty Unbound
  • z69evermoonz69evermoon Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Being a vet from open beta I can tell you that at the pace the dev. team goes at should be in by season 10.

    Everytime they do a season its min effort for max cash.

    rolleyes:There is so much stuff that looks good but it not done.

    I give you a example the Vulcan system you can beam down do a mission and thats it. It was suppose to have shops, venders, rare ships and shuttles, Vulcan duty officers. The whole works. But it was set a side for projects that would make them money.

    Risa suppose to be the social zone were you go to meet friends play mini games. Put on hold for projects that would make them millions of dollars.

    Delfar supose to be a hot spot rare weapon venders, Delfar ships, fighters, duty officers,
    put on hold for things that would make them millions of dollars.

    Terror dome remember Terror dome suppose to go into the que system so people could play it sorry need to make millions of dollars.

    Season 8 if there is one? Should be called were going to finish the projects we started but didn't finish because they wouldn't make us millions of dollars

    Someone please get rid of the stupied crystal entity no one does it no one plays it no one que's it.
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited November 2012
    You want a binary answer. There is no such thing.

    Yes only exists for those things we are actively making right now, and have a reasonable believe will ship.
    No, never exists. Everything is always a possibility later. Some are more likely than others, but there is no way for us to predict what's going on with this game 5 years from now. We can have ideas of where we'd like to go, but that's not something we like to advertise because it sets up false expectations.

    The most I could positively tell you is that there is no territory control in Season 7 (launching tomorrow).

    So . . . maybe.
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
    19843299196_235e44bcf6_o.jpg
  • tobar26thtobar26th Member Posts: 799 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Aren't the forums territorial control? :P Feels like it some days lol.
  • mrkollinsmrkollins Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'll kill for some territorial control.

    Seriously

    :P
    Division Hispana
    www.divisionhispana.com
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited November 2012
    mrkollins wrote: »
    I'll kill for some territorial control.

    Seriously

    :P


    Please don't.
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
    19843299196_235e44bcf6_o.jpg
  • icegavelicegavel Member Posts: 991 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Please don't.

    tlhIngan maH! (We are Klingons!) *stabs a bloke* WE CONTROL THIS TERRITORY!
  • kjbiedermankjbiederman Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I accept the mabey as it is intended. I have been with this game from the first month. I have not given up nor will I. A territory control game would add a great endgame confict and keep people playing.
  • edited November 2012
    This content has been removed.
  • purplegamerpurplegamer Member Posts: 1,015 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Just our of curiosity, knowing full well how well received the idea of territorial control was by this community when it was first suggested as being on the drawing board so long ago, why is it not being worked on yet?

    Or how about the exploration revamp that hs been slated as the next season's focus for the past four seasons?

    The dilithium reqirement hike and the dilithium availability nerf that is Season 7 was not anything I have seen this community asking for. And while starbases were asked for since before launch, I don't recall ever seeing it requested that they be the largest grindfest in MMO history in their implementation.

    What is so bloody hard for you guys when it come to working on stuff your players actually ask for, in the spirit in which it is requested?

    What do you guys do? Reach into a grab bag and pull out a random piece of paper with a project name on it to decide what to focus on next?

    All this time spent on working on a reputation system which is really another name for Grindfest could have been spent on producing content for the KDF so they can finally become a faction that can be leveled from 1 to 50 like the UFP... or territorial control to give purpose to the whole war between the UFP and KDF that you guys seem hell-bent on ignoring. Or the exploration revamp to replace the current exploration system which is hardly that due to its repetitive nature...

    Tell me... After we hit max repuration, what purpose will it serve, other than as a reminder of how much time and dilithium we will have spent?

    I think I am just about done with the MMO genre. Stupid corporate suits so focused on their plummeting bottom line that they won't bother to ask WHY it is plummeting and keep on insisting on doing things that continuously anger their players.

    I cannot wait for the MMO industry to collapse on itself and make way for new blood to revive it...

    Once they figure out how to time-gate and monetize territory control, we'll get it.
  • jackdonnerjackdonner Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Will there ever be territorial control mechanics in this game. A yes or no answer is all I need. No need to give a timeframe just yes or no.

    Thank you,

    I wouldnt hold my breath. If that is the sort of gameplay you wish, go play EvE. They have always had territory control.
  • f8explorer#7814 f8explorer Member Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    icegavel wrote: »
    tlhIngan maH! (We are Klingons!) *stabs a bloke* WE CONTROL THIS TERRITORY!


    ::: Klingon facepalm .... You aren't related to someone named Baz are you?
    Joint Forces Commander ... / ... proud member of ... boq botlhra'ghom / AllianceCenCom!
    " We stand TOGETHER and fight with HONOR!"

    U.S.S. Maelstrom, NCC-71417 (Constitution III-class/flagship) --- Fleet Admiral Hauk' --|-- Dahar Master Hauk --- I.K.S. qu'In 'an bortaS (D7-class / flagship)
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    icegavel wrote: »
    tlhIngan maH! (We are Klingons!) *stabs a bloke* WE CONTROL THIS TERRITORY!

    Forum PvP will NOT be tolerated on this site.
    :rolleyes:
    KBF Lord MalaK
    Awoken Dead
    giphy.gif

    Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
  • hatepwehatepwe Member Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Please don't.

    I'd pay a Kickstarter for Territory Control...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • darkstarkiriandarkstarkirian Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Territory Control, with the 84%/16% Fed/KDF player divide, would be a horrible scenrio.
    When the factions become more balanced, then maybe.
    [SIGPIC]Handle: @kirian_darkstar
    Registered: Oct/2009 , LTS : Feb/2011
    Fleets: Warriors of the Phoenix, Kirian Industries[/SIGPIC]
    Three years and still no Captain Klaa hair...
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I hope not, I like the current content design, except for dilithium. Currently we have a good mix of story, mindless missions (aka season 6 fleet actions), tough content, some casual and non mandatory pvp. I'd hate mandatory pvp, even if i'm not bad at it.
    Lenny Barre, lvl 60 DC. 18k.
    God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I felt I should bring up some stuff that I have read over in the upcoming content stuff on the wiki.


    Fleet starbases will play some role in future fleet vs fleet (KDF vs FED) territory control game ("controlling and or harvesting a vast variety of resources")

    sources that this come from include Ask Cryptic April 2011 and June 2012. Below is that was asked from those dates.

    April 2011: Q: HerbieZ Do you have any plans to make mineral mining and resource harvesting take a larger more dominant role in the future?

    A: While I wouldn?t go so far as to say a ?dominant? role, we do plan to continue improving crafting to the point where building your own Starbase or Starships could involve controlling and or harvesting a vast variety of resources. This is all scheduled for Season 5-6 timeframe.

    June 2012: Q: (Roman12291969) Is there any way the Galaxy map can open up, and make that real time? Where fleets can really have a stake in what?s happening, and you can actually fight for key sectors?

    Dstahl: The ideas about having a territory control game or one big sector are exciting to the team. This is one of those features on our to-do list, but it?s not on our current schedules. We have several steps in-between planned in order to get us to a place where we could do that. Having Fleet operated Starbases is one of those steps.

    Obviously, from what you can see here, territory contol as of June was on a to-do list. Keep in mind that the focus is to deliver on endgame content right now. You also have to look at what each faction tends to think about territorial expansion.

    Federation: Doesn't pressure other worlds into joining. Territories grow as new members decide to join on their own terms.

    Klingons: More focused on expanding territory by taking advantage of a situation. Traditionally, they have added by conquering other races.

    TSC_Signature_Gen_4_-_Vegeta_Small.png
  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Territory Control, with the 84%/16% Fed/KDF player divide, would be a horrible scenrio.
    When the factions become more balanced, then maybe.

    Ha! Everyone knows that 1 KDF is worth 4-5 Feddies! We'll wipe the floor with 'em!
    My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Ha! Everyone knows that 1 KDF is worth 4-5 Feddies! We'll wipe the floor with 'em!

    This is a valid (and as far as Ker'rat goes, incredibly true) statement. :D
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Ha! Everyone knows that 1 KDF is worth 4-5 Feddies! We'll wipe the floor with 'em!

    I would agree before they raised the level to 20, as before it was a pain to get to 50, and those who did were masters and true warriors, now not so much. :eek:
    GwaoHAD.png
  • mrkollinsmrkollins Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Territory Control, with the 84%/16% Fed/KDF player divide, would be a horrible scenrio.
    When the factions become more balanced, then maybe.


    And why it has to be only UFP vs KDF? why not UFP vs UFP? KDF vs KDF?


    There's always be more Humans than Klingons, its just the way it is. Everybody or at leats the majority finds more attractive to play as a human, its just because we're humans.

    Personally i think if Cryptic plans to do some Terrytory Control UFP vs KDF only, that will be a mistake. Because you can do some EPIC battles between UFP and UPF!
    Division Hispana
    www.divisionhispana.com
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    mrkollins wrote: »
    And why it has to be only UFP vs KDF? why not UFP vs UFP? KDF vs KDF?


    There's always be more Humans than Klingons, its just the way it is. Everybody or at leats the majority finds more attractive to play as a human, its just because we're humans.

    Personally i think if Cryptic plans to do some Terrytory Control UFP vs KDF only, that will be a mistake. Because you can do some EPIC battles between UFP and UPF!

    The Vulcans will crush the Humans....it's only logical
    GwaoHAD.png
  • starkymanstarkyman Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    tacofangs wrote: »
    We can have ideas of where we'd like to go, but that's not something we like to advertise because it sets up false expectations.

    So why can't you tell us what is being worked on but with no dates or timeline and just let us know?

    (been bugging me for ages now)
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited November 2012
    Same reason. Something that is currently being worked on may be shelved for a bit, or cancelled all together. Even with no dates listed, people get antsy and ask where x or y is. And if it hasn't come by some future time, we're all liars.

    No thanks. . .
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
    19843299196_235e44bcf6_o.jpg
  • robinsonfamilyrobinsonfamily Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I have one question for TacoFangs! How much "fun" was it to create the Vesta Class?
  • squishkinsquishkin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    starkyman wrote: »
    So why can't you tell us what is being worked on but with no dates or timeline and just let us know?

    (been bugging me for ages now)

    Because if they do that you get the incredibly vocal KDF faction on this forum, which remains incredibly angsty about things that DStahl said might be coming years ago but which haven't yet come.

    This forum is a great example of why telling your users anything is a terrible idea. You can't please all the people all of the time, it's true, but it feels like every time the STO team talks about where they want the game to go it just turns around and bites them later.
  • edited November 2012
    This content has been removed.
  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Will there ever be territorial control mechanics in this game. A yes or no answer is all I need. No need to give a timeframe just yes or no.

    Thank you,

    NO - The way the game is going and for what I have seen over the past years - That will require time and effort.

    There is already a NO answer to a third Faction, there will be a NO to this as well - UNLESS - they manage to fit in some Grinding in the process.

    Also - PVP is all but DEAD, so rest assure there is NO "maybe," just plain old "NO."
    StarTrekIronMan.jpg
Sign In or Register to comment.