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rlak47
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What is the official Starfleet uniform in 2409?
Now now, I'm not out to set one uniform and have no variations, I love the customization we get now. It's just it would be nice to know THE uniform that Starfleet has adopted as it's official one, especially for those looking for an RP experience.
In STO, due to the number of NPCs we see in it, and the sheer number of said NPCs, it must be assumed that the Antares 2 is the official starfleet uniform. All the NPCs on our ships wear it too. I have an Antares 2 in my uniform slots, for when I'm RPing on my ship.
However, I really really hate the Antares 2. It's dull, but with that really monotone design, which is absolutely dominated by RED or GOLD or BLUE without much trim, it doesn't seem military or professional enough - true enough, we did have that in TOS, TNG, VOY, and early DS9, but after the military, smart style of the First Contact uniform (which I loved) it doesn't feel right.
So, here is my main point:
The standard Starfleet uniform seems to have changed each time a new Enterprise is commissioned. We saw this when the First Contact uniform entered service (I believe the DS9/VOY uniforms were only different to the TNG ones to differentiate between Starship crew and Starbase crew until the VOY uniforms became standard).
So, is it time for a change. If we look at the Captain Shon and the crew of he Enterprise-F, they are all wearing the Jupiter uniforms (I believe it's called Jupiter Veteran, but they are wearing the standard one - withouth silver or gold shoulders). I know I spoke about lots of colour above, but I like the Jupiter Veteran Uniforms. The amount of black/grey trim makes them appear military, the longer length makes them a bit more formal (like the old dress uniforms) and IMO, they have FLAIR!!!!!!
So, do you prefer the Antares 2 or the Jupiter Vet (I know its the Jupiter for me)? And do you think that that should be the official uniform of Starfleet?
Looking forward to comments
*EDIT* Also note that a lot of the new Fleet Starbase personnel are in the Jupiter Vet uniforms
Now now, I'm not out to set one uniform and have no variations, I love the customization we get now. It's just it would be nice to know THE uniform that Starfleet has adopted as it's official one, especially for those looking for an RP experience.
In STO, due to the number of NPCs we see in it, and the sheer number of said NPCs, it must be assumed that the Antares 2 is the official starfleet uniform. All the NPCs on our ships wear it too. I have an Antares 2 in my uniform slots, for when I'm RPing on my ship.
However, I really really hate the Antares 2. It's dull, but with that really monotone design, which is absolutely dominated by RED or GOLD or BLUE without much trim, it doesn't seem military or professional enough - true enough, we did have that in TOS, TNG, VOY, and early DS9, but after the military, smart style of the First Contact uniform (which I loved) it doesn't feel right.
So, here is my main point:
The standard Starfleet uniform seems to have changed each time a new Enterprise is commissioned. We saw this when the First Contact uniform entered service (I believe the DS9/VOY uniforms were only different to the TNG ones to differentiate between Starship crew and Starbase crew until the VOY uniforms became standard).
So, is it time for a change. If we look at the Captain Shon and the crew of he Enterprise-F, they are all wearing the Jupiter uniforms (I believe it's called Jupiter Veteran, but they are wearing the standard one - withouth silver or gold shoulders). I know I spoke about lots of colour above, but I like the Jupiter Veteran Uniforms. The amount of black/grey trim makes them appear military, the longer length makes them a bit more formal (like the old dress uniforms) and IMO, they have FLAIR!!!!!!
So, do you prefer the Antares 2 or the Jupiter Vet (I know its the Jupiter for me)? And do you think that that should be the official uniform of Starfleet?
Looking forward to comments
*EDIT* Also note that a lot of the new Fleet Starbase personnel are in the Jupiter Vet uniforms
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Not because I like the design (IT IS dull) but I hate uniform conflict onboard my ship if I beam to the bridge.
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If I absolutely had to choose one as an official uniform, I would go with the Sierra 1. Its worn by the guy on the cover art, it was the first version seen in the early renders before the game was released, and it (Or a close version)was seen worn by Captain Data and crew in the Star Trek 2009 Countdown prequel comic.
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Not only are they dull, they look like they're made out of plastic, and would be very uncomfortable. TNG season 1 Uniforms look fugly too, but at least they look wearable. The Jupiter Uniforms are cool, but they're almost too cool, they look more like Militarised Leather Jackets. (Someone make a videogame about a civilization of super advanced biker gangs now!) So they don't feel very "Treky", but I do like them.
Uniforms need to be more clothy or comfortable looking.
Antares: Non-Com / Duty Officers
Sierra: Officers / Bridge Crew
Then again, I'm of the firm belief that after the later-DS9/TNG film uniform, it's the AGT/Endgame.
That's what I figure, too. Sierra 1 for officers, Antares 2 for everyone wandering around.
Perhaps a strongly imposed mentality by one of the more recently joined federation member races.
In the early days of the game the dev's stated that they had a preference toward the TOS episodes. TOS uniforms followed a general standardization but allowed their individual starbases, ships, etc. to use their own insignia and presumable their own uniform standard as well. Combine that with the clear "captains discretion" shown on some episodes of TNG, DS9, VOY, Generations, especially when visiting a different command like when Sisko goes to SFA.
Take that along with the uniform transition per the Path to 2409, I don't think it's unheard of that Starfleet would move away from the military-esque standardized uniforms to a more relaxed, non-military, uniform policy as long as it conformed with some sort of general guidelines that Starfleet imposes.
So in other words, individual captains and commands can have their own uniform code.
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A few still wear First Contact uniforms as well.
Thats a lot of work though (easy though it would be). Cryptic doesn't seem to give such jobs to interns unfortunately.
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I disagree. I love the leather look. Could just be because i'm German but i think it looks 10 times better than those one piece cloth jumpsuits that were used throughout the series. Personally i think most of the costume designers outside of some of the later movies were absolutely horrible at their job or just had no idea how real people dress. The tight fitting leather look of some of the sierra uniforms (the ones dominated by black) says to me still formal looking and easily kept up but also has the durability to actually survive an away mission. Also love the rank pip placement where you can actually see it. those little collar pips never made any sense to me. If you were approaching an unknown officer you would have to be in their face before you could confirm if you outrank them or vice versa
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By the time of TNG, the Federation no longer enslaved animals for food purposes ("Lonely Among Us"), so I doubt they would wear their hides. That's more of a Klingon thing...
Sooo that might explain why a lot of the federation personal wear similiar uniforms on starbases, they might be the ones designated to deal with civilian inquiries. Disciplne and proffessionalism are instilled in them with training. They're unified by their ideals.
That argument has played in my head before.. Federation officials, back and forth, debating the positives and negatives of both sides.. The federation, with an open mind, finally come to the decision to go forward with the uniform policy change. Especially due to observing all of the positive benefits one of the aliens races had undergone existing with such policies in their own world.
I was very irrated about not having standard uniforms too, but I moved on.. I'd prefer there be a standard uniform but I don't see that happening..
I didn't say they didn't look cool, they do, they just don't look very Trekky. They look more like something out of Battlestar Galactica or the Peacekeepers in Farscape. The Sierra and Antares have the same kind of look, but they don't have the distinction of being cool. :P
I do agree with you on the rank however.
I'm pretty sure anything leather worn by FEDs(They do wear 'leather' boots in every incarnation except ST TMP) just looks like leather since it's in all likelihood replicated.
While it is true that some military types have probably had custom-tailored "uniforms" over the years, there should still be some common elements with "normal" uniforms.
The color variations are especially wild in many cases. (Why on earth is any shade of green even on the uniform palette?)
About all I can do is think to myself that different units/divisions/etc. might have different uniform standards, much like the differences between Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marines. While Cryptic could have standardized those differences somehow, they leave it open for people to interpret it in any way they want to. I suppose that's not all bad, even though it's a bit hard to see some of these outfits and think "Starfleet".
To the point of the original post, it's mighty tempting to see the default uniform as the "official" one, and many of the NPC's appear in it. I do not see NPC's running around in any of the non-standard outfits (No TOS, ENT, TMP, TNG, etc)
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Faux leather, or vinyl, or maybe something we haven't even thought of yet.
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I agree. With all the rest of the silliness, that Cryptic has excreted into the Star Trek license, it seems rather vapid, and petty, to be hung up on the uniform thing.
And the SF Academy and Vice Admiral variants.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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However only thing I kept from the original looks, was the skirt offering for the ladies. I did use those in various colors to match their department.
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That Tactical Officer is clearly wearing Sierra #1. I think that should answer your question.
As for the color palette, older uniforms had different colors. Instead of only having red, blue and gold, the WoK uniforms had white, green, gold, grey and orange (among a few others). While my bridge crew looks quite nice with these uniforms I wish there was a way to change the uniforms for each department for the rest of my crew...:rolleyes:
By 2409 we have the refined Sierra-1 design, which with most of the Sierra series I've come to think of as the primary officer-grade field uniform (I would love love love to see a modified jacket version). The Antares uniforms are more ergonomic and made for engineering or lower grade officers/crewmen. (My chief engineer wears a modified Antares.)
Starting with the Odessey there's a new wave of technology and design, introduced in 2409. (Everything else we'd been playing with to that point was older technology created in the past thirty years.) Newer ships like the Odessey, Exeter, Venture, and so on are the way modern Starfleet is headed. Along with these new technologies we have new uniforms.
I believe the Jupiter-Veteran unlocks are the new standard for Officer uniforms, slowly being phased in startin with the Enterprise-F and other Odessey ship crews. The other Jupiter uniforms are also the new standard as well for varying assignments and duties.
I'll update this post tomorrow with some screenshots of what I consider to be "2409 Starfleet-standard".
Number two: 22nd Century Excursion Jackets
Number three: Handheld communicator animation for non-combadge uniforms