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cleacoe
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Why is it that Cryptic and PW allow this harassment and trolling to continue by certain trolling fleets on Drozana Station and other social zones?
I along with many other gold members have paid a lot of money through subscriptions and the c-store to support this game though the years. Yet the Devs are continuing to allowing trolls to make enjoying the game impossible.
I along with many others will not invest any more money in this game until the GM's that are suppose to Police this type of behavior actually do their jobs and end all this harassment of players.
I along with many other gold members have paid a lot of money through subscriptions and the c-store to support this game though the years. Yet the Devs are continuing to allowing trolls to make enjoying the game impossible.
I along with many others will not invest any more money in this game until the GM's that are suppose to Police this type of behavior actually do their jobs and end all this harassment of players.
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God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
1 an instance only for Lifetime members and Gold members Everything fully enabled
2 An instance only for Free players NOTHING enabled (no social items no weapons)
3 a Secure area for Roleplayers with a Live full time moderator
4 an "Adult " instance strictly over 21s as above
5 a "dentist" instance (all spam systems active and only place you can go if you have a chat ban)
6 mission instance (all chats and special effects disabled)
Even if the Devs wanted to do something about it, they'd need to know what was going on first.
Annoying behavior is kind of subjective. What annoys you might not annoy me, etc.
What matters is whether it's true harassment and whether that particular form of harassment is something they can/will do something about.
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Well I guess it's about the party popers.
OP:
K7 is a good station too, you have the same services and it's very close to drozana. You may migrate if there are people you don't want to see. It would take you less time than complaining on the forums.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
I'm sure it's somewhere in PWE's rules of acquisition. Probably right after "Once you have their money, never give it back".
As long as they have a place to harass, they are happy... when they are happy they feel like spending money. That simple, and PWE knows it.
Assuming of course that "trolls" only play for free and that free players don't deserve the same social experience as Golds.
First of all, how do you expect PWE to police that? Do we all need to submit to a retinal scan before playing the game? How exactly do you keep non-Roleplayers out?
Second of all, how many in-game moderators do you think PWE would need to hire to supervise all of these "instances" throughout the game? Because the game engine guarantees that you would need a special instance for each zone or area.
Should they do this for a "Free to Play" game? Probably not going to happen.
I'm getting downright curious about these Dentist guys.
By definition, if they're banned from chat they can't bother anybody with chat. They can "get in your face", true. You could take a screenshot and put in a ticket, I guess. But you could also try to zone into a new instance, couldn't you?
I'm just not sure it's reasonable to expect Cryptic to spin up a new separate zone instance just because a handful of players have chat disabled. If a player is behaving badly enough, PWE can revoke their account... and then they can get a new email address and start another one.
Which sucks for sure, but the alternative is punishing all of the Silver accounts for the misdeeds of a few and I don't think that's fair or good for the game as a whole.
The only thing to do is politely ask people to stop the behavior that's annoying you, quietly file a ticket if the behavior is extreme, and then ignore them the best you can.
I understand that filing tickets is probably not going to be productive in a lot of cases. But that's what we've got.
As far as mission instances go, I could see disabling certain items like party poppers. But chat? Not everybody uses voicechat. Also, some RP'ers use Foundry missions and maybe they might want party poppers. Probably not, but there's no accounting for taste and a sense of "what the heck".
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I am not a Role Player (TBH, I find it a little disturbing), but if that is your thing... Then please enjoy yourself (it is a game after all). I had read the feud between some RP'ers and a certain fleet here on the forums, and honestly (out of morbid curiosity more than anything else) went to Dronza to see what all the whoopla was about.
I was there, basically minding my own business doing some banking and exchanging (and reading the zone/local chat)... I did not engage in local or zone chat... did not approach any other player directly... I ran from bank to exchange, and back... thats about it. I was approached several times by RP'ers with offers.. some shall we say... would be best left in a strip club or brothel... others just trying to include me in their RP (not necessarily in a sexual way (i take this as the RP community trying to involve other RP'ers in the event), In both types, I politely explained that I was not a role player, in one case I was left alone, and we parted amicably (thank you to those persons), in other cases, they either continued to initiate contact, or got a little heated that I was not participating and evidently ruining their immersion... one suggested that if I wasnt into RP, then I shouldn't be on Dronza.
Also realize, that there is no Official RP Zone, as such all players are welcome on Dronza.
By the way, I am a paying customer as well.
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FTP don't pay and therefore should get less
see "live full time moderator"
as to age
its on your CREDIT card details in some cases
1 for each of 2 instances
only talking about Drozana here
they could "hire" players (free gold members for doing a two hour shift each day)
they are deviant
no because they Cover ALL instances
ah but these dentist guys are not that bright in general
it would take them DAYS to figure that out
beats a few thousand people quitting or a war
well code 5 is helping
you see a dentist in pve you ignore them
they go down you leave them down
the borg assimilate them you leave them
Freedom isn't free im afraid
K7: pvpers station
Drozana: RPers station
ESD: beginners station
Each station has a personnality. If you don't like it, there are plenty of social zones with an exchange and a bank, but even if you pay, you have no right to tell what kind of gamestyle is good or bad. Paying gives you no right to say that people play the game the wrong way.
As I said, K7 has more services than drozana and it's 30s away.
Why do I say that? Because I have a lot of fun leaving my fed andorian female seducively dancing on the bar.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
These hub zones are just not conducive to RP. A lot of people are there for a lot of different reasons.
Maybe this is a good argument for social zones that don't provide any real services like mail or exchange. Or where the service areas are tucked out of the way like they are on ESD. Naturally limiting the players present to people who want to be in that zone for other reasons.
Risa is not a bad example of such a place where there's no out-of-character reason to travel to.
This is also a really good use for starbases and bridges... places you can only get to by membership or invitation.
But I get that the issue is cross-faction as well. Drozana, DS9, and Deferi are the only places I can think of that are accessible to both sides.
(Forgot Nukara Prime, but it's kind of hard to socialize when you're being attacked by giant crystal spiders...
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Turn off Zone and/or Local chat. Saves me a heap of trouble anywhere I go. Any 'trolling' issues I have to deal with are more in STFs, and other such group events.
I am not interested in, would rally against, any attempt to divert the monies I do pay into PWE/Cryptic to make and personally moderate a RP zones.
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That way you can tip the orions, amiright?
So you don't have to worry about someone else catching the girls eyes that don't have money?
I don't think anyone wants to actually read bad fanfic material for a living.
Especially if there's going to be a "champagne room".
Since that will sooo stop people from ruining your sexy time. Cause you can't get any outside of the game.
I agree with your suggestion to place you in an instance by yourself. You do, after all, want to make the game a single player.
No, it isn't. It isn't easy, either. Sometimes it means fighting injustice. Sometimes it means putting up with things you don't like to preserve the freedoms that matter and protecting people who are innocent of offense.
If you went to my fleet's forum, and read the 4F's for yourself, you'd understand what I mean by that. Whether we want to believe it or not, we all have a serious and sacred responsibility to each other -- even in a game.
I don't condone anyone going out of their way to spoil anybody's fun. Nor open hostilities and "Code 5", whatever that is. There's a reason those principles I call the 4F's include the words "Friendship" and "Fair-Play". "Freedom" and "Fun" don't mean a whole lot without them.
The full version of the 4F's: http://z15.invisionfree.com/Federation_Reborn/index.php?showtopic=6
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QFT
This... This is sorely lacking in this game... I may use revise my fleet misson to read more like this... spent a lot of time outlining do nots, instead of do's... Thank you for this!
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I encourage everyone who sees this in action to ignore the person calling for a Code 5...
This is probably one of the worst things I have read on these forums... and truthfully... that is saying a lot.
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I agree. That's what I'd call "extreme" behavior.
Unfortunately, I don't see any solution that's reasonable or simple.
One result of making the game Free to Play is that it's going to be just that much harder to pin down an individual and kick them out permanently.
If you can't pin down an individual, the temptation is to profile them and put limits on people who fit a stereotype. I can imagine some cases in real life where that's unavoidable, but we as a group really need to avoid that at all costs where at all possible. That's the slippery slope we need to stay off of.
We shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking that every Silver account is a deadbeat and every Gold account has the right to do what they want.
On the other hand, PWE most likely does not have the manpower to watch even one zone 24x7. Even if they did, it may not always be clear who did what to who and why. Enforcement would help, but it wouldn't be perfect.
Again, we need to remember this is a F2P game. If they hire somebody to patrol Drozana, that's less money they have to develop the game with.
I can't see them creating a Pay to Play server set aside for a particular group of players. I doubt it would be cost-effective for them.
They're not going to empower players to kick other players out of the game or even out of an instance. (Kicking off a team or out of a mission is a different matter.)
This is really a social problem, and it probably needs a social solution of some kind. What form that ought to take, I'm not sure.
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God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
Okay let me stop you there. Butts was gone for 3 days because he was crucified by Dear Leader. He arrived on the 4th day to spread the word that is Dental.
Starfleet Dental never left the riot you caused. They simply didn't wish to spend most of their real lives on this game. Now that Butts is back, the brrapture has begun!:cool:
Speaking as an American... I'd go for both
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Maybe this is a good argument for making facilities freely available on ships and starbases.
If the only reason to visit a hub where people are misbehaving is convenient use of facilities, then making those facilities available outside those hubs would allow people to conduct their business in peace.
For the record, I am saying that maybe Cryptic should just turn all those QoL services on inside the starbases and stop making us grind for them. There are plenty of other things we can grind for.
Better yet, make some of those services accessible from the starship interiors and let visitors enjoy the use of them.
I understand that Cryptic really wants those common social areas... but when the social areas become anti-social we need alternatives.
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